Mass shooting - San Bernardino

[GandD 5,966]

They committed a crime. They're criminals.

Ok

[Robby999 1,024]

I thought they had said it was only the two. Maybe I'm wrong.

If they did get a third person alive they might want everyone to believe there was only 2 until they get all the information from that person. Has that suspect been released from police custody yet? That person might be headed for either the witness protection program or Gitmo!

[lostinblue 1,989]

So if we can't ban pressure cookers, lets forget about regulating weapons? Is that the rationale? Because it isn't very rational.

The rational is if they cannot use a firearm then they will use another device to spread their death and destruction .... Knives, bombs even as we see in Israel... cars .

8 bombs kill 190 on trains in India

BOMBAY, India - It took just minutes. One by one down the railway line, the bombs went off, ripping apart the trains, tearing through flesh and paralyzing what is arguably India's most vibrant city.

The eight blasts struck during Bombay's busy evening rush hour Tuesday, killing 190 people and wounding hundreds in a well-coordinated terror attack on the heart of a city that embodies India's global ambitions.

Suspicion quickly fell on Kashmiri militants who have repeatedly carried out nearly simultaneous explosions in attacks on Indian cities, including bombings last year at three markets in New Delhi.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20060712/WIRE/207120326

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[Teddy B 17,252]

The rational is if they cannot use a firearm then they will use another device to spread their death and destruction .... Knives, bombs even as we see in Israel... cars .

8 bombs kill 190 on trains in India

BOMBAY, India - It took just minutes. One by one down the railway line, the bombs went off, ripping apart the trains, tearing through flesh and paralyzing what is arguably India's most vibrant city.

The eight blasts struck during Bombay's busy evening rush hour Tuesday, killing 190 people and wounding hundreds in a well-coordinated terror attack on the heart of a city that embodies India's global ambitions.

Suspicion quickly fell on Kashmiri militants who have repeatedly carried out nearly simultaneous explosions in attacks on Indian cities, including bombings last year at three markets in New Delhi.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20060712/WIRE/207120326

For example.

That's not rational thinking LIB, that's an excuse and a poor one at that.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

That's not rational thinking LIB, that's an excuse and a poor one at that.

It's the reason there will never be a rational and logical debate about gun control and gun ownership in this country.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

If they're Christian and follow the Bible's teachings, then the answer would be yes. But they could also be anti-gov't as well.

In order for it to be terrorism there has to be a political motive as in the okl city bombing

What says it was Islamic? Because they were Muslims?

No one knows at this point. We know why the PP shooter did it, yet the same folks in here asking for clarification refuse to call it what it is.

Rofl. Just cause they are Muslim in no way connects it to Islam.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

In order for it to be terrorism there has to be a political motive as in the okl city bombing

Rofl. Just cause they are Muslim in no way connects it to Islam.

But if they're Christian does that mean it's a connection to Christ? Dear was a prime example of this, but there's no call to call him a Christian terrorist, even though there's evidence he attacked PP due to his warped interpretation of the Bible.

[Dakine10 5,452]

The rational is if they cannot use a firearm then they will use another device to spread their death and destruction .... Knives, bombs even as we see in Israel... cars .

8 bombs kill 190 on trains in India

BOMBAY, India - It took just minutes. One by one down the railway line, the bombs went off, ripping apart the trains, tearing through flesh and paralyzing what is arguably India's most vibrant city.

The eight blasts struck during Bombay's busy evening rush hour Tuesday, killing 190 people and wounding hundreds in a well-coordinated terror attack on the heart of a city that embodies India's global ambitions.

Suspicion quickly fell on Kashmiri militants who have repeatedly carried out nearly simultaneous explosions in attacks on Indian cities, including bombings last year at three markets in New Delhi.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20060712/WIRE/207120326

For example.

You know there's nothing wrong with you saying you like guns and willing to accept the risk and consequence. Rationalizing is not the same as rational. It's actually a failure of reasoning.

[lostinblue 1,989]

That's not rational thinking LIB, that's an excuse and a poor one at that.

It is very rational. These attackers had guns and bombs. would it matter which one killed .. to them . NO .

The IRA bomb campaign, which hit London from 1973 onwards, sought to create a climate of fear over a long period, but it soon tried to explode two or more devices at a time to maximise the havoc. There were 36 bombs in London in 1973.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/07/terrorism.july73

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

It's the reason there will never be a rational and logical debate about gun control and gun ownership in this country.

correct, because it is already settled via the 2nd amendment.

[B_J 2,752]

But if they're Christian does that mean it's a connection to Christ? Dear was a prime example of this, but there's no call to call him a Christian terrorist, even though there's evidence he attacked PP due to his warped interpretation of the Bible.

I'm pretty sure there are a few people on VJ right now who are willing to call him a Christian terrorist.

[Teddy B 17,252]

In order for it to be terrorism there has to be a political motive as in the okl city bombing

That is the main definition of terrorism, but there are subsets of the definition as well. The one part of the definition that never varies is the "the use of violence to threaten, intimidate or coerce".

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I'm pretty sure there are a few people on VJ right now who are willing to call him a Christian terrorist.

It's pretty clear. If he killed to further his Christian beliefs in the political arena, he is a Christian terrorist.

If a lone Muslim blows up a burger King becuse he hates whoppers he is not a Muslim terrorist

[Teddy B 17,252]

It is very rational. These attackers had guns and bombs. would it matter which one killed .. to them . NO .

But yet they chose the guns first and foremost. Wonder why? Could it be because guns are the quickest and easiest way to kill? It is much more difficult to obtain explosives, make a bomb and actually use it successfully than it is to purchase guns and use them to kill.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

But yet they chose the guns first and foremost. Wonder why? Could it be because guns are the quickest and easiest way to kill? It is much more difficult to obtain explosives, make a bomb and actually use it successfully than it is to purchase guns and use them to kill.

So what could have stoped them from buying without stopping normal non violent citizens from buying