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Hello my wife and I was in the process of waiting for our I-485 to be approved and we received a letter saying it was denied because of a student visa violation.

I am a U.S citizen while my wife came from Korea on a student F-1 Visa.

She was attending private school on her F-1 in highschool, but then her family were in the process of changing their visas, so they decided to move to public school because they believe the visa was in process and would be situated by then. Turns out the lawyer they were talking to was a fraud and took their money and instead overstayed their visas. My wife is currently without a visa.

As we applied everything was fine, but we recently receive a denial notice about 1 year later, saying because of the terms of her student visa and that she attended public school for more than 12 months and did not pay a tuition that she would have to leave the country.

We have talked with lawyers but what they're saying seems like we would have to leave for 5 years and return in order to apply for the green card again.

We can appeal but what chances do we have that it would work? If there is any help or suggestion in this area it would be greatly appreciated.

To me it doesn't sound right that we would be denied just because my wife decided to attend public school. Please help us! Thank you!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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*** Thread moved from "AOS from WS&T Visas" main forum to the Case Progress subforum. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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How old was your wife when the school thing happened? If she was a minor, under 18, things are different.

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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She would most likely have to start by paying the tuition fees for her years in public school before this is over. It is similar to people that have used means tested medical benefits that must repay them before being allowed to immigrate. The overstay is usually forgiven for the spouse of a USC but the illegal use of public funds isn't.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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It seems like they are saying she has an INA 212(a)(6)(G) ban. It says someone in F-1 status who violates the provisions in INA 214(m) are banned until they he/she "has been outside the United States for a continuous period of 5 years" after the violation. There is no immigrant waiver for this ban.

INA 214(m) says that someone in F-1 status:

A) cannot attend public elementary or middle school or public adult education program

B) cannot attend public secondary school (high school) unless 1) it was for an aggregate period of less than 12 months, and 2) you can show that you have reimbursed the cost of the education in full to the local education agency.

How long did she attend public high school in F-1 status totally? If it was less than 12 months, it seems that she can reimburse the school district for the costs and she won't have this ban. If it was more than 12 months, it doesn't seem like there is any way she can get out of this without spending 5 years continuously outside the US.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Interesting, never come across this one before.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Yea so thats the issue we're having because she did attend public school for over 2 years. We've been asking people and they've been telling us its the first time they've ever heard of this. Even one of our lawyers said they've never seen a case like this before. Is the only solution to leave the country? If there no way to appeal this decision? They did give us 30 days to reply if there seems to be any kind of error over this decision. If we did reply what would be our chances?

As always thank you so much for your help!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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As stated there is no obvious path to waive the ban and it runs 5 years from when she leaves the US. I would head over to immigrate2us.net and ask around , they are the experts on problem immigration issues. Lets us know if you find any way around this.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I2US would be a good source for Lawyers, but rarely do Students have need of waivers, pretty much unheard of.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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This just shows the ridiculousness of our system that allows those who come into the country illegally to attend public school here free of cost, but does not offer the same to those who come here legally.

Just like the illegals can get driver's license in some states, but the immigrant spouses of US citizens have to jump through dozens of hoops to get and renew DL's.


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