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We've decided to file for the K1 visa. but before we do, we would like to know do we need to send them messages from the day we started talking up until now? I know they want proof of us meeting within the last 2 years and we have. but we've pretty much lost all our old messages from Facebook and Viber, within the last year and a half we both have new laptops/phones etc. would that be a problem?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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The messages would be supplemental to what USCIS requires.

Just pick several, from throughout the course of your relationship as best as you can find them, that talk about issues of substance and that support the bona fide nature of your relationship.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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We've decided to file for the K1 visa. but before we do, we would like to know do we need to send them messages from the day we started talking up until now? I know they want proof of us meeting within the last 2 years and we have. but we've pretty much lost all our old messages from Facebook and Viber, within the last year and a half we both have new laptops/phones etc. would that be a problem?

Hello Martin,

It will be a problem if you cannot provide proof of meeting or proof of ongoing relationship.

How about emailed receipts? A lot of what we used were receipts/transactions that were emailed to us when we booked a hotel or booked a flight. These days many transactions can be emailed. As long as the evidence of meeting is within the last two years. They are not saying they want messages from 2 years ago.

For proof of ongoing relationship, try using your current chat sessions, current facebook chat, current viber chat. I have heard of people even using phone records.

We also provided proof of ongoing support (which is what the US Embassy may ask for) for this we provided receipts from Western Union (receipts are usually emailed).

Here is what we did to provide evidence of meeting:

http://efilipinowomen.com/i129f-process-application-proof-of-meeting/

More info:

Submit evidence that you and your fiancé(e) have met in person during the 2 years preceding your filing of this petition. Such evidence may include a written statement from you and/or the beneficiary stating the exact date(s) on which you met in person, copy of airline tickets, passport pages, or other evidence showing you and the beneficiary have met in person during the requisite time period. If you believe you qualify for an exception to the meeting requirement, submit evidence in support of the exception. -- i-129f Instruction #7 (http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/fi...)

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Thank you all for the replies and advice.

Hello Martin,

It will be a problem if you cannot provide proof of meeting or proof of ongoing relationship.

We do have proof of meeting, photos, flight tickets, hotels etc. we also have proof of an going relationship over the last year, chat, skype calls etc. we just don't have old messages of when we first started talking and I'm just worried they would want messages from when we first started to talk etc.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Thank you all for the replies and advice.

We do have proof of meeting, photos, flight tickets, hotels etc. we also have proof of an going relationship over the last year, chat, skype calls etc. we just don't have old messages of when we first started talking and I'm just worried they would want messages from when we first started to talk etc.

Martin,

That is great! photos (with date/time), flight tickets, hotel, also passport stamp (for example of you going into the country), that is exactly the type of stuff they want to see. They did not ask us for OLD messages what was important is that we had enough evidence to establish we have an actual relationship and have met in person.

What does "Proof of having met in person in the last 2 years" mean?

It does not mean the you have to prove you that you have had a relationship for 2 years, just that you met in person within the last 2 years.

I will give you real example. On our Visa Approved Fiance visa group, we had a couple that had been together for about 5 years but they had not seen each other (in person) in about 3 years. The requirement is that the petitioner and beneficiary have met within 2 years. So that was a problem.

Here is another actual example from the group, we know more than one couple who have known each other for LESS than a YEAR (LOL). But because they met in person within two years of filing the i129f and showed pictures, flights, hotel, and lots of other proof of relationship, they did not have any issues. In fact, one of them has a green card right NOW in the US!

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