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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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They took our green cards when we got our passports stamped. Our cards had not yet expired but they did take them. The stamp became the replacement with a longer expiry date.

Edited by Ms Hogan

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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When I was getting biometrics last week a lady arrived who was renewing her greencard - I overheard the officer at the biometrics counter say that she would extend her greencard while she waited for the new one to arrive. A few minutes later she called the lady back up to the desk and explained she'd extended the greencard and had put a "sticker" on the card to indicate that.

I wonder if they only do this for the 10 year cards? This seemed much more sensible than taking the card away and replacing it with a passport stamp - especially since you are supposed to always carry your card with you by law.

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AOS: Applied 9/16/13 - Approved 1/18/14 (122 days)

6/28/2013 - DOMA struck down!
7/21/2013 - Married
9/16/2013 - AOS package mailed (I-130/I-485/I-765)
9/24/2013 -(day 06)Texts/Emails received
9/24/2013 -(day 06)Check cashed
9/27/2013 -(day 09)Hardcopy NOAs received in mail (x3)
9/30/2013 -(day 12)Biometrics Appointment Notice I-797c
10/04/2013 -Successful biometrics walk-in
11/19/2013 -(day 62)Online status changed to Testing & Interview
11/21/2013 -(day 64)EAD approval/card production ordered (2 emails)
11/29/2013 -(day 72)EAD arrived
12/16/2013 -(day 89)Hard-copy of interview notice arrived
01/16/2014 -(day120)AOS Interview - Approved!!
01/18/2014 -(day122)Email stating I-485 card production ordered (8:15am)
01/22/2014 -(day126)Emails stating I-130/I-485 approval notices sent
01/27/2014 -(day131)Green Card arrived along with hard copies of I-130 and I-485 approval notices

ROC:

10/19/2015 - I-751 package mailed

10/21/2015 - Package received by USCIS

10/22/2015 - NOA (received in the mail 10/26/2015 check cashed 10/27/2015)

11/07/2015 - Received Biometrics appointment notice (dated 10/31/2015)

11/18/2015 - Biometrics appointment

08/31/2016 - Online status changed to new card ordered

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Never took ours away, and we needed that card, copy of the letter of extension, and a copy of that I-555 stamp in the passport books to appy for US citizenship. Met some very strange people at our USCIS office, many couldn't even speak good English or even very poor English.

They sure wanted that ten year card back at the US citizenship oath ceremony, needed that to get your certificate. But then was told, you don't have to carry it with you like you did with that green card for years. Wife and daughter felt naked walking around without it. But they got use to it.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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When I was getting biometrics last week a lady arrived who was renewing her greencard - I overheard the officer at the biometrics counter say that she would extend her greencard while she waited for the new one to arrive. A few minutes later she called the lady back up to the desk and explained she'd extended the greencard and had put a "sticker" on the card to indicate that.

I wonder if they only do this for the 10 year cards? This seemed much more sensible than taking the card away and replacing it with a passport stamp - especially since you are supposed to always carry your card with you by law.

Never took ours away, and we needed that card, copy of the letter of extension, and a copy of that I-555 stamp in the passport books to appy for US citizenship. Met some very strange people at our USCIS office, many couldn't even speak good English or even very poor English.

They sure wanted that ten year card back at the US citizenship oath ceremony, needed that to get your certificate. But then was told, you don't have to carry it with you like you did with that green card for years. Wife and daughter felt naked walking around without it. But they got use to it.

OP is asking about during ROC. Mine was taken away during ROC when I asked for an extension of the expiry date. My passport (and kids' too) was stamped and green cards were taken away. I'm sure it is different during 2 year GC vs 10 year.

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Am talking about the ROC stage, where else do you get a letter of extension or require an I-551 stamp in your foreign current passport book. Can also bring in two passport photos and apply for an I-94.

At my wife's interview for citizenship wanted to see here expired green care, letter of extension, and her I-551 stamp in her current foreign passport. But in dealing with other government agencies where certification is required, always met with a board. With the USCIS, only dealing with one individual and no telling what they will want.

If you think dealing with the likes of the DMV is bad with an expired green card and that one year extension notice, try this with that I-551 stamp. That one year extension notice is worthless without that expired green card.

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I think Ms Hogan has been through the process more recently than NickD. Also it may depend on the local office.

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Am talking about the ROC stage, where else do you get a letter of extension or require an I-551 stamp in your foreign current passport book. Can also bring in two passport photos and apply for an I-94.

At my wife's interview for citizenship wanted to see here expired green care, letter of extension, and her I-551 stamp in her current foreign passport. But in dealing with other government agencies where certification is required, always met with a board. With the USCIS, only dealing with one individual and no telling what they will want.

If you think dealing with the likes of the DMV is bad with an expired green card and that one year extension notice, try this with that I-551 stamp. That one year extension notice is worthless without that expired green card.

My GC is now expired while waiting for the ROC to be approved. I am moving to CA from AZ and I went to my local USCIS office to ask whether I should have any problems with the expired card and the extension letter at the DMV and with my employer. The answer was that I shouldn't have any problem. I asked about the I-551 stamp and they told me that they only give the stamp to people that lost their extension letter. I even asked "what if they have a problem with my expired GC/extension letter, what I should do?" and the answer was "they won't have any problem."

I will test that soon, hopefully, they are right.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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This hasn't changed.

"The termination of my status and removal from the

United States would result in an extreme hardship"

Nor has the other loopholes in the Waiver Request Filing in the event of a failed marriage. Nor has the extremely long processing delays.

Check the history of the ROC formation, immigrants were granted a lifetime permanent resident card, limitations were imposed starting in 1986, only way to bring a person here was via marriage and many fraud cases were reported. This all changed in 1988 if fraud was detected, first for the petitioner, a $250,000 fine and/or five years in prison, the AOS was made far more complicated and time consuming. If this wasn't enough, came up with this ROC stage, but with several key loopholes to get around it.

If you sent in your I-751 with tons of evidence just one day early, it would be returned from that 90 day limit. And the processing time was greatly extended. Latest adminstration made it far easier for undocumented people to come here. If managed to cross the border with coyotes, if any relative in the US could be found, even given a bus ticket, plus no restrictions on receiving public aid.

But this I-751 is still around and still not proven to prevent fraud. But certainly an extreme hardship on people trying to obey the law. In cases where the patitionee was the one that committed fraud, the petitioner was still liable for supporting that person under the I-864. So exactly who is being protected?

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Sorry for the long post.If you plan on travelling internationally then you will get the expired green card back from uscis because us customs accepts and recognizes the extension letter without the greencard but other countries want to see the stamp in the passport with the matching A # on the card along with the letter. Some custom agents may give you flack over not having the letter and or stamp because then they'll have to try and identify you as the person in the passport. I've traveled to Jamaica and I've never been asked for my green card coming back. Only my passport and fingerprints. Only customs in Jamaica try to verify info because a gc holder doesn't need a visa to travel from Jamaica to USA.

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FYI: I'm waiting for my conditional removal too and I went in to get my i551 stamped in my book and the officer said I don't need to take the letter with me when traveling because the 1 year stamp is a temporary "wet ink" greencard.BUT NOT ALL COUNTRIES WILL ACCEPT IT!! Jamaica accepts it but they have to verify your info.

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