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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Moldova
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My wife and step-daughter have been here in the US for 2 1/2 years now. My step-daughter has adapted well to her new language and is at the top of her class as a Freshman in high school and has made a few good friends. My wife is finishing up her first full year of teaching math at a local high school and has done well too but her self-confidence with the English language is lacking.

My wife has a masters degree in Math (earned overseas) and IMO is doing great, but no matter what she accomplishes she still is concerned about her language progress, especially her accent. We have bought many CD's, books, etc and she has been taking ESL classes since she arrived. She is really doing great...but the problem is that she will not accept that she is doing great.

How do I get through to her that she doesn't have to worry about what others think of her just because English is not her first language?

She is very self-confident in every other aspect of her life, including other transitions she has made since coming to the US. It's just that this language thing is really getting her down on herself (yes, she is a perfectionist!) and I just want her to be able to overcome the anxiety it has caused her.

Any others have the same experience? Suggestions?

Thanks! Dave

Thanks to all for the guidance and support and speedy processing to all!


Our Visa Journey Timeline

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina I-130

01/20/2009 I-130 Petitions package mailed to Chicago Lockbox (priority mail)
01/31/2009 NOA1's rec'd for both petitions
03/16/2009 Approval notices dated 03/10/09 rec'd in the mail for both petitions (no on-line update)
03/30/2009 NVC DS-3032 packets received by petitioner
03/31/2009 Paid $70 AOS (affadavit of support) fee on-line (one fee for both petitions)
04/10/2009 Marina's parent's e-mailed DS-3032 to NVC for both petitions
04/15/2009 AOS documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
04/21/2009 Rec'd e-mails from NVC for approval for Marina to be designated agent for both
04/25/2009 Paid $400 IV (immigrant visa) fee on-line for each petition ($800 total for both parents)
06/04/2009 DS-230 & supporting documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
06/22/2009 Both cases completed at NVC (per automated phone line message on 06/30/09)
07/10/2009 Interview notification e-mail received; both interviews scheduled for 08/11/09
08/11/2009 Interview(s) completed for both parents in Bucharest; visas in hand!
12/21/2009 Nicolai & Galina arrived in the United States as scheduled! (Chicago O'Hare)

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina N-400

10/21/2014 N-400 applications mailed to Phoenix Lockbox (priority mail)

11/03/2014 NOA1's received for both

11/07/2014 Biometrics letters received for both

11/17/2014 Biometrics completed for both

11/22/2014 Received "yellow letter" for both

01/06/2015 Received "in-line" e-mail for both

01/12/2015 Received interview letter for both (scheduled for 2/10/15)

02/10/2015 Interviews passed for both; waiting for oath ceremony date(s)

03/03/2015 Oath Ceremony in Chicago; two new US Citizens!

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I understand as a professional she wants people to respect her..to look up to her but she has to realize that people will pay more attention to her with the accent..with her sentence phasing.. At least with me.. when I hear a accent I'm curious.. and they will listen to her more closely..

And doesn't she realize how many young peoples minds she is opening up to the idea of foreign spouses ? :whistle:

9/14 2006 I-129F Sent Next day Air

9/15 Recieved and signed for by "Freeman" at NSC

9/19 NOA1 CSC Recieved

9/25 Notice date Check cashed 9/25

9/28 I Recieved NOA1(I-797C) in the mail

12/5 NOA2 12/6 but Approved on 12/5 touch

12/9 Received NOA2(I-797) by snail mail

12/15 NVC has received it..Case # issued...

12/19 NVC shipped to Romania

12/22 Romanian Embassy has received an email from NVC that my Petition is on it's way...

12/29 Packet 3 sent to Veronica

1/12 2007 Packet 3 received Dang Holidays..

1/22 Sending all paperwork(I-134,Bank/Employer letters etc..,)..to Veronica per DHL, 3.5lbs...$144 WOW!

1/25 Recieved notice that She needs to pick up my packet in Chisinau..

1/26 Sending Back Packet 3

2/16 Transit Visa to go to Romania for the Interview approved..

2/20 Leaves for Bucharest overnight drive by bus...

2/21 Medical

2/22 Interview !!!! APPROVED !!!!!

3/9 2007 Flight to me....

4/7 2007 Married,,,

AOS

7/27 Sent I-485, I-864, I-765

7/30 Chicago Recieved I-485,I-765

Veronica is pregant....Due 4/17/08

9/1 Recieved NOA Bio appointment letter

9/8 Recieved NOA1's for both I-485 and I-765

9/18 Bio appointment

Received Green Card.. Nov 2007

Djuliann came 4/25/2008

I-751 Lifting Of Conditions

9/8/2009 Sent I-751

Received NOA 9/21 NOA Receipt Date 9/10/2009

9/24 received Bio letter Dated 9/18

10/9 Bio Appointment

10/23 Received Permanent Resident Card

N-400 2012

Filed for citizenship sent 2/21/2012

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Moldova
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Thanks for the reply! Wow, pretty big week for you two. Marina and Carina came thru Chicago O'hare so can't give any advice on Denver POE but I am sure she will be fine.

I'll mention what you said about opening people mind's to foreign relationships:)

Good Luck this week!!

Dave

Thanks to all for the guidance and support and speedy processing to all!


Our Visa Journey Timeline

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina I-130

01/20/2009 I-130 Petitions package mailed to Chicago Lockbox (priority mail)
01/31/2009 NOA1's rec'd for both petitions
03/16/2009 Approval notices dated 03/10/09 rec'd in the mail for both petitions (no on-line update)
03/30/2009 NVC DS-3032 packets received by petitioner
03/31/2009 Paid $70 AOS (affadavit of support) fee on-line (one fee for both petitions)
04/10/2009 Marina's parent's e-mailed DS-3032 to NVC for both petitions
04/15/2009 AOS documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
04/21/2009 Rec'd e-mails from NVC for approval for Marina to be designated agent for both
04/25/2009 Paid $400 IV (immigrant visa) fee on-line for each petition ($800 total for both parents)
06/04/2009 DS-230 & supporting documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
06/22/2009 Both cases completed at NVC (per automated phone line message on 06/30/09)
07/10/2009 Interview notification e-mail received; both interviews scheduled for 08/11/09
08/11/2009 Interview(s) completed for both parents in Bucharest; visas in hand!
12/21/2009 Nicolai & Galina arrived in the United States as scheduled! (Chicago O'Hare)

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina N-400

10/21/2014 N-400 applications mailed to Phoenix Lockbox (priority mail)

11/03/2014 NOA1's received for both

11/07/2014 Biometrics letters received for both

11/17/2014 Biometrics completed for both

11/22/2014 Received "yellow letter" for both

01/06/2015 Received "in-line" e-mail for both

01/12/2015 Received interview letter for both (scheduled for 2/10/15)

02/10/2015 Interviews passed for both; waiting for oath ceremony date(s)

03/03/2015 Oath Ceremony in Chicago; two new US Citizens!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Israel
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my SO is completely fluent, but he STILL worries about it. he knows that i love his accent, but hes worried about the connotations. i just try to remind him all the time that he is fluent, and can do it... sometimes ill even use my sad hebrew to show him what a real language barrier is.

im not sure how else to help it though, i wish i did

Feb 16, 2007 I-129F SENT

Feb 17, 2007 I-129F recieved by CSC

Feb 20, 2007 NOA 1

Feb 23, 2007 touch

Feb 26, 2007 NOA 1 recieved in mail

May 9, 2007 NOA2!!!!! we are on our way!

May 23, 2007 NVC finally sends on our case

June 12, 2007 Packet 3

July 27, 2007 Interview

AUG 14, 2007 APPROVED!

Oct 8, 2007 finally together again

Nov 2, 2007 Legally married

Nov 29, 2007 AOS paperwork sent

Dec 3, 2007 NOA for AOS and EAD

Dec 22, 2007 RFE

Jan 15, 2008 RFE returned

Jan 25, 2008 RFE recieved, last touch on AOS

Feb 22, 2008 EAD recieved

Mar 29, 2008 AP application sent... late but just in case

May 2008 AP approved!

Sept 5, 2008 AOS approved!

next dealing with UCIS June 2010

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I don't speak from experience personally, but my brother's wife is from China and she was very nervous at first about her English. They chose to speak only English in the home for 1 full year. After that, my brother started to learn Mandarin, and she started to teach him via her giving English instruction the Mandarin language.. I think that helped her to realize how well she was doing. We (the immediate family) also tell her all the time how amazing she does. A little encouragement from those close to home (sis in laws, mom in laws etc), has helped. Good luck!!

AOS:

2007-02-22: Sent AOS /EAD

2007-03-06 : NOA1 AOS /EAD

2007-03-28: Transferred to CSC

2007-05-17: EAD Card Production Ordered

2007-05-21: I485 Approved

2007-05-24: EAD Card Received

2007-06-01: Green Card Received!!

Removal of Conditions:

2009-02-27: Sent I-751

2009-03-07: NOA I-751

2009-03-31: Biometrics Appt. Hartford

2009-07-21: Touched (first time since biometrics) Perhaps address change?

2009-07-28: Approved at VSC

2009-08-25: Received card in the mail

Naturalization

2012-08-20: Submitted N-400

2013-01-18: Became Citizen

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I may be missing the mark here, but maybe your wife needs to get out there and make some friends of her own rather than focusing on eliminating her accent. I feel for her - I've bounced around the world a bit and one of the best things about going home is that I feel like I get my identity back --- I stop being constantly identified as "the foreigner" and become... myself.

The accent is probably driving her crazy because every time your wife opens her mouth, whether it's at school or just buying milk at the market, she gets a reminder that she's from somewhere else; well-meaning people ask her where she's from or correct her phrasing or whatever. It's fun if you're on vacation but it gets kind of tiresome when it goes on for months or years. You get a lonely feeling. A high school community may not be the best salve for this irritation. Is it possible that this constant sense of not really belonging is what's making her so anxious about her accent? Has she made some good friends yet? Not your friends who now accept her, but her very own friends? People who know her and choose to be with her for her personality and actions, her favorite foods and hobbies? Maybe instead of spending so much time in ESOL classes, etc., she should join a drawing group or a civic association or a math seminar and meet some adults in her community who share her interests.

9-12/2004 - met and fell in love in Bulgaria

2004 - 2006 - travel, travel, travel...

11/2006 - moved to Bulgaria

1/2007 - engaged

4/2007 - wedding

DCF for CR-1 Visa BEGINS:

5/16/2007 - I-130 filed at Sofia, Bulgaria embassy

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You'll never get away from the accent.. The US was built from immagration.. Even if your born in the states..most americans hear something different they want to guess where your from.. this is normal and how we are raised..we learn it from TV..our parents..

Oh are you from Texas.. Virgina ??? Ohio .?? one of the strongest I thought southern accents..Was from a person from Ohio.. I think Texans have the least southern accents.. People from the other places hear my Idaho accent. ????

No I would embrace the accent.. Leave it alone.. .. it is her hertiage.. I would only work on the sentence phasing..and American Slang..

9/14 2006 I-129F Sent Next day Air

9/15 Recieved and signed for by "Freeman" at NSC

9/19 NOA1 CSC Recieved

9/25 Notice date Check cashed 9/25

9/28 I Recieved NOA1(I-797C) in the mail

12/5 NOA2 12/6 but Approved on 12/5 touch

12/9 Received NOA2(I-797) by snail mail

12/15 NVC has received it..Case # issued...

12/19 NVC shipped to Romania

12/22 Romanian Embassy has received an email from NVC that my Petition is on it's way...

12/29 Packet 3 sent to Veronica

1/12 2007 Packet 3 received Dang Holidays..

1/22 Sending all paperwork(I-134,Bank/Employer letters etc..,)..to Veronica per DHL, 3.5lbs...$144 WOW!

1/25 Recieved notice that She needs to pick up my packet in Chisinau..

1/26 Sending Back Packet 3

2/16 Transit Visa to go to Romania for the Interview approved..

2/20 Leaves for Bucharest overnight drive by bus...

2/21 Medical

2/22 Interview !!!! APPROVED !!!!!

3/9 2007 Flight to me....

4/7 2007 Married,,,

AOS

7/27 Sent I-485, I-864, I-765

7/30 Chicago Recieved I-485,I-765

Veronica is pregant....Due 4/17/08

9/1 Recieved NOA Bio appointment letter

9/8 Recieved NOA1's for both I-485 and I-765

9/18 Bio appointment

Received Green Card.. Nov 2007

Djuliann came 4/25/2008

I-751 Lifting Of Conditions

9/8/2009 Sent I-751

Received NOA 9/21 NOA Receipt Date 9/10/2009

9/24 received Bio letter Dated 9/18

10/9 Bio Appointment

10/23 Received Permanent Resident Card

N-400 2012

Filed for citizenship sent 2/21/2012

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Moldova
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I may be missing the mark here, but maybe your wife needs to get out there and make some friends of her own rather than focusing on eliminating her accent. I feel for her - I've bounced around the world a bit and one of the best things about going home is that I feel like I get my identity back --- I stop being constantly identified as "the foreigner" and become... myself.

The accent is probably driving her crazy because every time your wife opens her mouth, whether it's at school or just buying milk at the market, she gets a reminder that she's from somewhere else; well-meaning people ask her where she's from or correct her phrasing or whatever. It's fun if you're on vacation but it gets kind of tiresome when it goes on for months or years. You get a lonely feeling. A high school community may not be the best salve for this irritation. Is it possible that this constant sense of not really belonging is what's making her so anxious about her accent? Has she made some good friends yet? Not your friends who now accept her, but her very own friends? People who know her and choose to be with her for her personality and actions, her favorite foods and hobbies? Maybe instead of spending so much time in ESOL classes, etc., she should join a drawing group or a civic association or a math seminar and meet some adults in her community who share her interests.

Actually alot of what you said makes sense. Marina is a very private person and does not make new friends easily. Her self-consciousness with the language and pronounciation has prevented her from showing others her true great personality that I know and love. She has made friends among her co-workers, but that is pretty much it. Funny thing is that she is a Math teacher in a school full of ESL students that don't speak English nearly as well as she does! Last semester she had a few Russian students but now all of her students are Latino so that may be part of it too.

I am sure she misses home and her friends there too. It's getting her to admit any of this stuff that is the difficult part! When I suggest stuff she will just say "I'm fine" or "I don't need that".

Luckily they are both going home to Moldova over Spring Break and I am not going with this time so they get to speak Russian the whole time and not have to worry about me understanding them!!:)

Thanks again for your thoughts.

Dave

Thanks to all for the guidance and support and speedy processing to all!


Our Visa Journey Timeline

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina I-130

01/20/2009 I-130 Petitions package mailed to Chicago Lockbox (priority mail)
01/31/2009 NOA1's rec'd for both petitions
03/16/2009 Approval notices dated 03/10/09 rec'd in the mail for both petitions (no on-line update)
03/30/2009 NVC DS-3032 packets received by petitioner
03/31/2009 Paid $70 AOS (affadavit of support) fee on-line (one fee for both petitions)
04/10/2009 Marina's parent's e-mailed DS-3032 to NVC for both petitions
04/15/2009 AOS documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
04/21/2009 Rec'd e-mails from NVC for approval for Marina to be designated agent for both
04/25/2009 Paid $400 IV (immigrant visa) fee on-line for each petition ($800 total for both parents)
06/04/2009 DS-230 & supporting documents for both petitions mailed USPS Priority to NVC
06/22/2009 Both cases completed at NVC (per automated phone line message on 06/30/09)
07/10/2009 Interview notification e-mail received; both interviews scheduled for 08/11/09
08/11/2009 Interview(s) completed for both parents in Bucharest; visas in hand!
12/21/2009 Nicolai & Galina arrived in the United States as scheduled! (Chicago O'Hare)

Marina's parents Nicolai & Galina N-400

10/21/2014 N-400 applications mailed to Phoenix Lockbox (priority mail)

11/03/2014 NOA1's received for both

11/07/2014 Biometrics letters received for both

11/17/2014 Biometrics completed for both

11/22/2014 Received "yellow letter" for both

01/06/2015 Received "in-line" e-mail for both

01/12/2015 Received interview letter for both (scheduled for 2/10/15)

02/10/2015 Interviews passed for both; waiting for oath ceremony date(s)

03/03/2015 Oath Ceremony in Chicago; two new US Citizens!

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