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The justification and rationalization is amazing. Comparing some nut that goes into a church and kills folks at bible study to a coordinated military style operation involving multiple killers, killing and wounding 100s borders on comedy. It would actually be funny if it wasn't such a serious thing.

Instead of condemning they make excuses and blame Bush.

Since 9/11, there have been about 100 people killed by terrorism here in the US. Worldwide around 19,000 over the last 14 years. Here, every day we lose lives to gun violence, at years end that's 12000 plus lives a year.

291 mass shootings this year alone. Not to mention the ones where someone just murders their family or some random killing in the cities folks love to talk about. But yeah, let's keep worrying about Muslims while home grown terrorists continue to murder people.

There were 25 terror attacks by Muslims under Bush. 83 under Obama.

The appeasement strategy did not work.

http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.attacks.west.html

Under Bush (2000 to 2008):
  1. USA - 9/11 2001.
  2. UK - Ross Parker 2001.
  3. France - AZF explosion 2001.
  4. USA - shoe bomber 2001.
  5. Holland - Pim Fortuyn 2002.
  6. USA - LA 2002.
  7. USA - Beltway sniper 2002.
  8. France - Bertrand Delanoë 2002.
  9. UK - Stephen Oake 2003.
  10. USA - Ariel Sellouk 2003.
  11. France - Sebastian Sellam 2003.
  12. Spain - Madrid 2004.
  13. Holland - Theo van Gogh 2004.
  14. UK - London 2005.
  15. France - Ilan Halimi 2006.
  16. USA - NC SUV attack 2006.
  17. Germany - Amir Cheema 2006.
  18. USA - Seattle Jewish centre 2006.
  19. USA - CA SUV attack 2006.
  20. Norway - Oslo synagogue 2006.
  21. UK - London and Glasgow 2007.
  22. USA - Chauncey Bailey 2007.
  23. UK - Exeter 2008.
  24. UK - Sherry Jones 2008.
  25. Denmark - Odense 2008.
Under Obama (2008 to 2016):
  1. USA - Little Rock 2009.
  2. Italy - Milan 2009.
  3. USA - Fort Hood 2009.
  4. USA - Richard T. Antoun 2009.
  5. USA - Flight 253 2009.
  6. Denmark - Kurt Westergaard 2010.
  7. USA - Times Square 2010.
  8. UK - Stephen Timms 2010.
  9. Sweden - Lars Vilks 2010.
  10. Sweden - Malmo synagogue 2010.
  11. Denmark - Copenhagen hotel 2010.
  12. Sweden - Issa Issa 2010.
  13. USA - military shootings 2010.
  14. USA/UK - cargo planes 2010.
  15. Sweden - Stockholm 2010.
  16. Italy - Nello Rega 2011.
  17. UK - Gary Smith 2011.
  18. Germany - Frankfurt 2011.
  19. Australia - Sydney 2011.
  20. Brazil - school shooting 2011.
  21. Norway - apostates 2011.
  22. Canada - Paris Dipersico 2011.
  23. USA - Waltham murders 2011.
  24. USA - Alaa Alsaegh 2011.
  25. Germany - J. Gehirn 2011.
  26. France - Charlie Hebdo arson 2011.
  27. Denmark - Hare Krishna temple 2011.
  28. Germany - Ferhad Ahma 2011.
  29. South Africa - Al-Shabaab terror 2011-12.
  30. USA - Gelareh Bagherzadeh 2012.
  31. Norway - Christian converts 2012.
  32. Australia - Alevi centre 2012.
  33. France - Toulouse massacre 2012.
  34. Belgium - metro 2012.
  35. Bulgaria - Burgas bombing 2012.
  36. France - Paris 2012.
  37. Cyprus - British soldier 2012.
  38. USA - Coty Beavers 2012.
  39. Denmark - Lars Hedegaard 2013.
  40. USA - Boston Marathon 2013.
  41. France - Roussillon 2013.
  42. UK - Woolwich soldier 2013.
  43. France - Paris soldier 2013.
  44. UK - prison officer 2013.
  45. USA - Gay nightclub fire 2013.
  46. Belgium - Jewish Museum 2014.
  47. France - Jewish supermarket 2014.
  48. USA - Ali Muhammad Brown 2014.
  49. UK - Edmonton, London beheading 2014.
  50. Australia - Melbourne 2014.
  51. USA - Oklahoma beheading 2014.
  52. Canada - St-Jean-sur-Richelieu 2014.
  53. Canada - Ottawa Parliament attack 2014.
  54. USA - New York axe attack 2014.
  55. UK - Israel stall 2014.
  56. France - Jewish restaurant 2014.
  57. Australia - Sydney cafe 2014.
  58. France - Joue-les-Tours 2014.
  59. France - Dijon 2014.
  60. France - Nantes 2014.
  61. France - Charlie Hebdo 2015.
  62. Germany - Cartoons arson 2015.
  63. Belgium - Verviers 2015.
  64. France - Nice 2015.
  65. Denmark - Copenhagen cafe 2015.
  66. Denmark - Copenhagen synagogue 2015.
  67. USA - Terrence Lavaron Thomas 2015.
  68. Austria - Vienna murder 2015.
  69. South Africa - Zainub Priya Dala 2015.
  70. France - Aurelie Chatelain 2015.
  71. USA - Muhammed cartoon contest 2015.
  72. USA - Boston 2015.
  73. Austria - Graz SUV attack 2015.
  74. France - Factory beheading 2015.
  75. USA - Chattanooga 2015.
  76. France - train attack 2015.
  77. Germany - Berlin 2015.
  78. Denmark - asylum seeker 2015.
  79. Australia - Sydney 2015.
  80. France - Schoolboy 2015.
  81. USA - University of California 2015.
  82. France - Paris massacre 2015.
  83. France - Marseille 2015.

So Obama and Bush are responsible for attacks in other countries as well? How does that work?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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Since 9/11, there have been about 100 people killed by terrorism here in the US. Worldwide around 19,000 over the last 14 years. Here, every day we lose lives to gun violence, at years end that's 12000 plus lives a year.

291 mass shootings this year alone. Not to mention the ones where someone just murders their family or some random killing in the cities folks love to talk about. But yeah, let's keep worrying about Muslims while home grown terrorists continue to murder people.

So Obama and Bush are responsible for attacks in other countries as well? How does that work?

When you just run out of excuses for the abhorrent behavior of radical Muslims world wide.

Blame guns in the USA over and over. Wash spin repeat

Posted

When you just run out of excuses for the abhorrent behavior of radical Muslims world wide.

Blame guns in the USA over and over. Wash spin repeat

Whose running out?

It's funny because the numbers don't lie. I have to eat them when the black crime stats are touted here consistently. But when it comes to this, when you compare terrorism to gun violence here in our country, you want to go world wide, and you still fall short since that number STILL doesn't come within ear shot of what we do to our own people here daily.

What about the abhorrent behavior of our own citizens? The ones who kill just like everyone else? We talk about radical Muslims world wide, but ignore the monsters here in our back yard.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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It starts with the Kool-Aid. You have to drink it first, and then all these absurdities start making sense.

Since 9/11, there have been about 100 people killed by terrorism here in the US. Worldwide around 19,000 over the last 14 years. Here, every day we lose lives to gun violence, at years end that's 12000 plus lives a year.

291 mass shootings this year alone. Not to mention the ones where someone just murders their family or some random killing in the cities folks love to talk about. But yeah, let's keep worrying about Muslims while home grown terrorists continue to murder people.


So Obama and Bush are responsible for attacks in other countries as well? How does that work?

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Whose running out?

It's funny because the numbers don't lie. I have to eat them when the black crime stats are touted here consistently. But when it comes to this, when you compare terrorism to gun violence here in our country, you want to go world wide, and you still fall short since that number STILL doesn't come within ear shot of what we do to our own people here daily.

What about the abhorrent behavior of our own citizens? The ones who kill just like everyone else? We talk about radical Muslims world wide, but ignore the monsters here in our back yard.

Good point. So if you if young black males who are about 4 % of the population committed 4% of the violent crime. Guess what a huge drop there would be in the gun crime right

Posted

Good point. So if you if young black males who are about 4 % of the population committed 4% of the violent crime. Guess what a huge drop there would be in the gun crime right

How much crime do Muslims commit here in the US? Since the thread is about Islam.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Because homegrown terrorism hides under the guise of the mockery the 2nd Amendment has become, and also because they are mostly from the right religion...

Whose running out?

It's funny because the numbers don't lie. I have to eat them when the black crime stats are touted here consistently. But when it comes to this, when you compare terrorism to gun violence here in our country, you want to go world wide, and you still fall short since that number STILL doesn't come within ear shot of what we do to our own people here daily.

What about the abhorrent behavior of our own citizens? The ones who kill just like everyone else? We talk about radical Muslims world wide, but ignore the monsters here in our back yard.


Alas, this thread is not about Islam. This thread is about bashing Islam.

How much crime do Muslims commit here in the US? Since the thread is about Islam.

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Neither surprised nor disappointed that I didn't get an answer to my question. Honestly didn't expect one.

B and J K-1 story

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  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
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  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
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  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

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  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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Political correctness = not saying what I really want to say with no regards for manors.

How's everyone doing this hateful morning?

I can build you a manor with a modicum of materials. What style and size do you seek?

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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So to flip yer model a bit,

If'n we made certain all American loonies had guns, with a minimum 10-bag license, all pointed towards Muslims in USA,

Then yer numbers would skew? Stellar!

Since 9/11, there have been about 100 people killed by terrorism here in the US. Worldwide around 19,000 over the last 14 years. Here, every day we lose lives to gun violence, at years end that's 12000 plus lives a year.

291 mass shootings this year alone. Not to mention the ones where someone just murders their family or some random killing in the cities folks love to talk about. But yeah, let's keep worrying about Muslims while home grown terrorists continue to murder people.

So Obama and Bush are responsible for attacks in other countries as well? How does that work?

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

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Posted (edited)

Usually its good to reply directly to the person who you're asking as well as quote them in your question. Kinda like this.

Edited by ready4ONE

B and J K-1 story

  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
Posted

So to flip yer model a bit,

If'n we made certain all American loonies had guns, with a minimum 10-bag license, all pointed towards Muslims in USA,

Then yer numbers would skew? Stellar!

You're talking about a full scale war. Is that what you want?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Since 9/11, there have been about 100 people killed by terrorism here in the US. Worldwide around 19,000 over the last 14 years. Here, every day we lose lives to gun violence, at years end that's 12000 plus lives a year.

LOL

32,658 in 2014 alone.

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01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
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