We Can't Fight Radical Islam By Being Politically Correct

[GandD 5,966]

Going into a theater and killing folks seems like terrorizing to me.

Theater killing is terrorism. No doubt.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Criminals use guns to terrorize, otherwise they would not use them at all; and terrorists use guns to commit their crimes.

A rose by any other name...

You can call them criminals if you like. That's how our system classifies them.

Criminals tend to use guns for revenge, crime, etc

A terrorist uses guns to terrorize. You see, two complete different motives and therefore two different means of resolution. But we're all used to motive being an afterthought.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Theater killing is terrorism. No doubt.

I think anyone who commits a mass shooting is a terrorist. School, mall, house party. That's just me, your sole intention is to spread fear and kill. Can't get more clear than that.

[GandD 5,966]

I think anyone who commits a mass shooting is a terrorist. School, mall, house party. That's just me, your sole intention is to spread fear and kill. Can't get more clear than that.

I agree. Quite a few different motives behind the action though. Anger and hate seem to be a reoccurring theme.

Criminals use guns to terrorize, otherwise they would not use them at all; and terrorists use guns to commit their crimes.

A rose by any other name...

No. Someone who shoots someone to steal their drugs is not a terrorist. They're a criminal.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Terrorists are criminals, and most criminals resort to terror, otherwise they would have no leverage over their victims.

I agree. Quite a few different motives behind the action though. Anger and hate seem to be a reoccurring theme.

No. Someone who shoots someone to steal their drugs is not a terrorist. They're a criminal.

[bowens44 214]

Wow. What a mind-numbingly ridiculous, uninformed article. The ignorance is strong in this one.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I agree. Quite a few different motives behind the action though. Anger and hate seem to be a reoccurring theme.

No. Someone who shoots someone to steal their drugs is not a terrorist. They're a criminal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

In its broadest sense, terrorism is any act designed to cause terror.^[1] In a narrower sense, terrorism can be understood to feature a political objective. The word terrorism is politically loaded and emotionally charged.^[2]

I think we are so hung up on labeling folks who fit our description of what a terrorist is, we've lost sight of the true meaning of the word.

Wow. What a mind-numbingly ridiculous, uninformed article. The ignorance is strong in this one.

You sound surprised.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Theater killing is terrorism. No doubt.

If there ever becomes a world wide network of millions that support or carry out theater killings that all have a unique bond , I will get worried

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

If there ever becomes a world wide network of millions that support or carry out theater killings that all have a unique bond , I will get worried

If we keep treating Muslims like they're ISIS, that's exactly what's going to happen. You do realize that ISIS kills a ton of Muslims as well right?

[Boiler 45,666]

If we keep treating Muslims like they're ISIS, that's exactly what's going to happen. You do realize that ISIS kills a ton of Muslims as well right?

To be fair not just ISIS.

And not just Muslims.

[ILoveMonica1 43]

If there ever becomes a world wide network of millions that support or carry out theater killings that all have a unique bond , I will get worried

The justification and rationalization is amazing. Comparing some nut that goes into a church and kills folks at bible study to a coordinated military style operation involving multiple killers, killing and wounding 100s borders on comedy. It would actually be funny if it wasn't such a serious thing.

Instead of condemning they make excuses and blame Bush.

[ILoveMonica1 43]

As far as whether or not terrorists are criminals, or vise versa, I guess one could say murderers and jaywalkers are both criminals. Saying they're the same thing is technically true since both are against the law. However, the punishment for one is a small fine, and the punishment for the other is potentially execution and there's a really good reason for that.

I still can't believe how some are trying to minimize this thing. I suppose if VJ was around on 9/12/2001, some here would be saying the events of the day earlier was aggravated vandalism against a few buildings.

Edited November 20, 2015 by ILoveMonica1

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

As far as whether or not terrorists are criminals, or vise versa, I guess one could say murderers and jaywalkers are both criminals. Saying they're the same thing is technically true since both are against the law. However, the punishment for one is a small fine, and the punishment for the other is potentially execution and there's a really good reason for that.

I still can't believe how some are trying to minimize this thing. I suppose if VJ was around on 9/12/2001, some here would be saying the events of the day earlier was aggravated vandalism against a few buildings.

And it kind of bolsters our suspicion, when the only outrage you see expressed is aimed at the people are becoming weary of the world wide violence almost universally common in Muslim communities.

[ILoveMonica1 43]

And it kind of bolsters our suspicion, when the only outrage you see expressed is aimed at the people are becoming weary of the world wide violence almost universally common in Muslim communities.

Whenever a common theme is pointed out, certain people do everything they can to justify the bad behavior by saying someone else is doing it. Or maybe it's justifiable because someone similar to them was mistreated 1000s of miles away or decades ago. Problem is they fail miserably because math doesn't lie. It's funny like that.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

In its broadest sense, terrorism is any act designed to cause terror.^[1] In a narrower sense, terrorism can be understood to feature a political objective. The word terrorism is politically loaded and emotionally charged.^[2]

I think we are so hung up on labeling folks who fit our description of what a terrorist is, we've lost sight of the true meaning of the word.

You sound surprised.

There were 25 terror attacks by Muslims under Bush. 83 under Obama.

The appeasement strategy did not work.

http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.attacks.west.html

Under Bush (2000 to 2008):

1. USA - 9/11 2001.
2. UK - Ross Parker 2001.
3. France - AZF explosion 2001.
4. USA - shoe bomber 2001.
5. Holland - Pim Fortuyn 2002.
6. USA - LA 2002.
7. USA - Beltway sniper 2002.
8. France - Bertrand Delanoë 2002.
9. UK - Stephen Oake 2003.
10. USA - Ariel Sellouk 2003.
11. France - Sebastian Sellam 2003.
12. Spain - Madrid 2004.
13. Holland - Theo van Gogh 2004.
14. UK - London 2005.
15. France - Ilan Halimi 2006.
16. USA - NC SUV attack 2006.
17. Germany - Amir Cheema 2006.
18. USA - Seattle Jewish centre 2006.
19. USA - CA SUV attack 2006.
20. Norway - Oslo synagogue 2006.
21. UK - London and Glasgow 2007.
22. USA - Chauncey Bailey 2007.
23. UK - Exeter 2008.
24. UK - Sherry Jones 2008.
25. Denmark - Odense 2008.

Under Obama (2008 to 2016):

1. USA - Little Rock 2009.
2. Italy - Milan 2009.
3. USA - Fort Hood 2009.
4. USA - Richard T. Antoun 2009.
5. USA - Flight 253 2009.
6. Denmark - Kurt Westergaard 2010.
7. USA - Times Square 2010.
8. UK - Stephen Timms 2010.
9. Sweden - Lars Vilks 2010.
10. Sweden - Malmo synagogue 2010.
11. Denmark - Copenhagen hotel 2010.
12. Sweden - Issa Issa 2010.
13. USA - military shootings 2010.
14. USA/UK - cargo planes 2010.
15. Sweden - Stockholm 2010.
16. Italy - Nello Rega 2011.
17. UK - Gary Smith 2011.
18. Germany - Frankfurt 2011.
19. Australia - Sydney 2011.
20. Brazil - school shooting 2011.
21. Norway - apostates 2011.
22. Canada - Paris Dipersico 2011.
23. USA - Waltham murders 2011.
24. USA - Alaa Alsaegh 2011.
25. Germany - J. Gehirn 2011.
26. France - Charlie Hebdo arson 2011.
27. Denmark - Hare Krishna temple 2011.
28. Germany - Ferhad Ahma 2011.
29. South Africa - Al-Shabaab terror 2011-12.
30. USA - Gelareh Bagherzadeh 2012.
31. Norway - Christian converts 2012.
32. Australia - Alevi centre 2012.
33. France - Toulouse massacre 2012.
34. Belgium - metro 2012.
35. Bulgaria - Burgas bombing 2012.
36. France - Paris 2012.
37. Cyprus - British soldier 2012.
38. USA - Coty Beavers 2012.
39. Denmark - Lars Hedegaard 2013.
40. USA - Boston Marathon 2013.
41. France - Roussillon 2013.
42. UK - Woolwich soldier 2013.
43. France - Paris soldier 2013.
44. UK - prison officer 2013.
45. USA - Gay nightclub fire 2013.
46. Belgium - Jewish Museum 2014.
47. France - Jewish supermarket 2014.
48. USA - Ali Muhammad Brown 2014.
49. UK - Edmonton, London beheading 2014.
50. Australia - Melbourne 2014.
51. USA - Oklahoma beheading 2014.
52. Canada - St-Jean-sur-Richelieu 2014.
53. Canada - Ottawa Parliament attack 2014.
54. USA - New York axe attack 2014.
55. UK - Israel stall 2014.
56. France - Jewish restaurant 2014.
57. Australia - Sydney cafe 2014.
58. France - Joue-les-Tours 2014.
59. France - Dijon 2014.
60. France - Nantes 2014.
61. France - Charlie Hebdo 2015.
62. Germany - Cartoons arson 2015.
63. Belgium - Verviers 2015.
64. France - Nice 2015.
65. Denmark - Copenhagen cafe 2015.
66. Denmark - Copenhagen synagogue 2015.
67. USA - Terrence Lavaron Thomas 2015.
68. Austria - Vienna murder 2015.
69. South Africa - Zainub Priya Dala 2015.
70. France - Aurelie Chatelain 2015.
71. USA - Muhammed cartoon contest 2015.
72. USA - Boston 2015.
73. Austria - Graz SUV attack 2015.
74. France - Factory beheading 2015.
75. USA - Chattanooga 2015.
76. France - train attack 2015.
77. Germany - Berlin 2015.
78. Denmark - asylum seeker 2015.
79. Australia - Sydney 2015.
80. France - Schoolboy 2015.
81. USA - University of California 2015.
82. France - Paris massacre 2015.
83. France - Marseille 2015.