AOS from K1 - Form i 693

[Henley1989 10]

Hi

Im sure there are lots of threads on this but im still confused.

I had a medical in London for my K1 and my vaccinations were all complete and I have my records.

Which parts of the i693 do I have to fill in?

What exactly does someone in my situation need to file?

Thanks

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Hi

Im sure there are lots of threads on this but im still confused.

I had a medical in London for my K1 and my vaccinations were all complete and I have my records.

Which parts of the i693 do I have to fill in?

What exactly does someone in my situation need to file?

Thanks

There is a pinned thread at the top of this forum-- Immunizations. DS-3025 or I-693?

The second paragraph of the first post answers your question. The rest helps you check to make sure your immunizations are sufficient.

[Henley1989 10]

There is a pinned thread at the top of this forum-- Immunizations. DS-3025 or I-693?

The second paragraph of the first post answers your question. The rest helps you check to make sure your immunizations are sufficient.

Thanks. I did look through that. To confirm, I have a DS 3025 with what I believe to be sufficient vaccinations. I dont have page 2, but at the bottom it does say "Please complete page 2" - im assuming its not a problem if I dont have it. And just to further confirm, I dont need to even fill out an i693 at all....

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Thanks. I did look through that. To confirm, I have a DS 3025 with what I believe to be sufficient vaccinations. I dont have page 2, but at the bottom it does say "Please complete page 2" - im assuming its not a problem if I dont have it. And just to further confirm, I dont need to even fill out an i693 at all....

Page 2 has nothing significant on it so not needed.

Sounds like you do not need a civil surgeon or form I-693.

[Henley1989 10]

Page 2 has nothing significant on it so not needed.

Sounds like you do not need a civil surgeon or form I-693.

Great stuff! Thanks

[Henley1989 10]

Page 2 has nothing significant on it so not needed.

Sounds like you do not need a civil surgeon or form I-693.

Nich Nick

Sorry about this. I was just reading the instructions before I send it all off and saw this.. I understand this to mean I still have to fill out some part of the 1693?

Particularity this bit

Regardless of if you are exempt from a medical exam, you are still required to complete certain portions of the I-693 and have a Civil Surgeon certify the form (and seal it in an evelope). Specifically, you will complete Part 1 (Information about you) of the I-693 and provide both the form and your DS-3025 (if you have it, proving your vaccination history)

6.2.2)....Will I need to take another medical exam since the medical report is only good for one year??

A...If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. Regardless of if you are exempt from a medical exam, you are still required to complete certain portions of the I-693 and have a Civil Surgeon certify the form (and seal it in an evelope). Specifically, you will complete Part 1 (Information about you) of the I-693 and provide both the form and your DS-3025 (if you have it, proving your vaccination history) and any proof of required vaccinations that were completed prior to entering the US. If you do not have a copy of your DS-3025 you will need to provide sufficient evidence of your vaccination history to the Civil Surgeon (talk to the civil surgeon's office to discuss what vaccination records they accept as proof). If you do not have proof of your vaccination history the Civil Surgeon may insist on re-administering all the required vaccinations prior to completing the I-693. Once the Civil Surgeon has has verified that all required vaccinations have been performed, they will complete form I-693 Part 2 (the vaccination section) and Part 5 (the Civil Surgeon's Certification). They will then seal the form in an envelope and return it to you.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Nich Nick

Sorry about this. I was just reading the instructions before I send it all off and saw this.. I understand this to mean I still have to fill out some part of the 1693?

That is not official USCIS instructions. Right? It is Visa Journey FAQs I think. That means some member wrote that. I happen to disagree with most of it. I also think it is making reference to the I-693 (sections) several form revisions ago. I guess you will have to decide who you're going to believe. I have studied this whole civil surgeon thing and all the USCIS forms, instructions, memos and changes since 2008. I corresponded with the company who got the contract and provided the new software when they switched lockbox contractors around 2010 and suddenly K1s were getting RFEed at the start. That straightened out after a couple of months. I spoke to Congressman Ron Paul (a doctor) asking if he could help sort the issue. It was kinda "my thing" to dig into when I was the only one advocating skipping the civil surgeon seven years ago. Now it is pretty commonly accepted and thousands have been approved with no I-693. The instructions have become way more clear with new revisions.

From the USCIS instructions written for Form I-693 page 7 http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-693instr.pdf

Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included as part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will have to have the Part 7. Vaccination Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1., 2., 4., and 7. of Form I-693.

That indicates that a properly completed DS3025 is sufficient. So yeah, I disagree with the VJ instructions, but you go with what feels right to you. My answers are also an opinion based on research and following cases.

[Henley1989 10]

That is not official USCIS instructions. Right? It is Visa Journey FAQs I think. That means some member wrote that. I happen to disagree with most of it. I also think it is making reference to the I-693 (sections) several form revisions ago. I guess you will have to decide who you're going to believe. I have studied this whole civil surgeon thing and all the USCIS forms, instructions, memos and changes since 2008. I corresponded with the company who got the contract and provided the new software when they switched lockbox contractors around 2010 and suddenly K1s were getting RFEed at the start. That straightened out after a couple of months. I spoke to Congressman Ron Paul (a doctor) asking if he could help sort the issue. It was kinda "my thing" to dig into when I was the only one advocating skipping the civil surgeon seven years ago. Now it is pretty commonly accepted and thousands have been approved with no I-693. The instructions have become way more clear with new revisions.

From the USCIS instructions written for Form I-693 page 7 http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-693instr.pdf

Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included as part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will have to have the Part 7. Vaccination Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1., 2., 4., and 7. of Form I-693.

That indicates that a properly completed DS3025 is sufficient. So yeah, I disagree with the VJ instructions, but you go with what feels right to you. My answers are also an opinion based on research and following cases.

Yes it was on VJ forum. Well im more than happy to listen to you. You seem to have great knowledge on the entire process and I have been using your instructions since the beginning so im definitely going to follow your way and not send it in.

Thanks

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Yes it was on VJ forum. Well im more than happy to listen to you. You seem to have great knowledge on the entire process and I have been using your instructions since the beginning so im definitely going to follow your way and not send it in.

Thanks

Individual cases can still go awry based on who happens to interview you or if USCIS loses your whole medical file, but it sounds like you should have everything you need. You can always go to a civil surgeon later if something weird happens and they make you. Doesn't matter too much about a short delay in greencard because you are no longer separated by an ocean.

[Henley1989 10]

Individual cases can still go awry based on who happens to interview you or if USCIS loses your whole medical file, but it sounds like you should have everything you need. You can always go to a civil surgeon later if something weird happens and they make you. Doesn't matter too much about a short delay in greencard because you are no longer separated by an ocean.

Ok cool. To be honest, the AOS is not my main priority. Obviously it is important but for me personally EAD is crucial as I need to start working as soon as I can.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Ok cool. To be honest, the AOS is not my main priority. Obviously it is important but for me personally EAD is crucial as I need to start working as soon as I can.

Your EAD can be issued long before an adjudicator for the I-485 even interviews you or looks at your specific shot record. Best of luck

[e&z 7]

For what it's worth, I assumed that since I handed in a sealed envelope at Immigration when arriving that I had already 'submitted' it. When filing I simply sent a photocopy of my vaccination page (the page which Kensington Drs handed back to me which lists all my vaccinations) in with my AOS, it had been ticked complete and signed by the Dr.

We never received an RFE but I have my Interview very soon so we shall see if it is mentioned...

[Stevephoto 230]

We did not go a CS and submitted the DS 3025 along with these instructions: Green Card in hand with no RFE!

www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-693instr.pdf

3. What if I am a K nonimmigrant visa holder and already had a medical exam overseas?

If you were admitted as a:

a. K-1 fiancé(e) or a K-2 child of a K-1 fiancé(e); or as a

b. K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen or a K-4 child of a K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen; and

c. You received a medical examination prior to admission, then:

(1) You are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination, and the medical examination did not reveal a Class A medical condition, or if you did have a Class A medical condition, you received a waiver of inadmissibility and have complied with the terms and conditions on the waiver.

(2) Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included as part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will have to have the vaccination report completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you are required to submit the vaccination record and page 1 of Form I-693.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/428381-i-693-report-of-medical-examination-and-vaccination-report/?p=6206232

Note that things may have changed in the past two years!