Revoke US Citizenship from Americans Who Join ISIS

[Robby999 1,024]

How many Americans would support a bill revoking the citizenship of Americans and revoking Permanent Resident status from immigrants who join ISIS or provide financially or material support to such organizations?

The French and Australian governments have taken aggressive steps to protect its citizens from so-called home grown terrorists who travel to the Middle East to fight for ISIS. It is time for the United States to implement similar measures.

Over the weekend, the French government for the first time seized the passports of six French citizens who allegedly were planning to travel to Syria to join ISIS and banned 40 more from leaving the country.

France’s top court ruled late last month that the government could strip French citizenship from naturalized French citizens convicted of terrorism charges. This decision will allow the government to withdraw French citizenship and passports from dual nationality jihadists who immigrated to France from north Africa and the Middle East.

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott plans to strip Australian citizenship from dual nationals who return to his country after fighting for ISIS. The Australian government may also suspend or withdraw citizenship from natural-born Australians who fought for ISIS. Canada and the UK have laws on the books to do this but reportedly have not used them yet.

An estimated 20,000 foreigners have traveled to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS. 3,400 of them are Europeans; about 100 are Americans. The Wall Street Journal reported today that European ISIS recruits are beginning to take steps to evade stepped-up security measures to prevent them from travelling to the Middle East by traveling by road and pretending to take trips to visit relatives or go on holiday to hide their final destinations.

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Congressman Steve King (R-IA) believe the United States must crack down on U.S citizens who join ISIS. That’s why last month they proposed the Expatriate Terrorists Act. If passed, this bill would revoke U.S. citizenship from anyone fighting for or supporting ISIS. The bill is co-sponsored by Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Roy Blunt (R-MO) and Joe Manchin (R-WV).

Democrats blocked an earlier version of this bill submitted by Cruz last fall because they claimed it was vague and would affect the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens. The White House did not take a public position on Cruz’s bill but is believed to oppose it.

Congressman Steve King explained the urgency for passing the Expatriate Terrorist Act when he said, “I believe these American terrorists have voluntarily renounced their citizenship upon taking an oath to a foreign terrorist organization.”

Senator Cruz, Congressman King and officials in France and Australia understand the seriousness of their citizens traveling to Syria and Iraq to fight for ISIS and returning home to commit acts of terror. The Cruz/King bill would send a powerful message that America is prepared to do whatever it takes to defeat ISIS and Americans who join terrorists groups will pay a high price.

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/02/23/revoke-us-citizenship-from-americans-who-join-isis/

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

How many Americans would support a bill revoking the citizenship of Americans and revoking Permanent Resident status from immigrants who join ISIS or provide financially or material support to such organizations?

It should be automatic. Plus a treason charge

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Is it constitutional to render somebody stateless?

[Robby999 1,024]

Is it constitutional to render somebody headless?

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Is it constitutional to render somebody headless?

Umm..,I think so?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Is it constitutional to render somebody stateless?

Yes. Its called treason

Do we not teach civics in school anymore

http://www.nytimes.com/1861/01/25/news/treason-against-the-united-states.html?pagewanted=all

By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that:

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason."

In 1790, the Congress of the United States enacted that:

"If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, such person or persons shall be adjudged guilty of treason against the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH; and that if any person or persons, having knowledge of the commission of any of the treasons aforesaid, shall conceal, and not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President of the United States, or some one of the Judges thereof, or to the President or Governor of a particular State, or some one of the Judges or Justices thereof, such person or persons, on conviction, shall be adjudged guilty of misprision of treason, and shall be imprisoned not exceeding seven years, and fined not exceeding one thousand dollars."

[Robby999 1,024]

Recently the Constitution has just been a speed bump to immigration so I do not see where it would be much of a stretch for the magic pen and phone to make this happen. I think anybody that is associated with that group should be stateless and deported to their new found friends.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Recently the Constitution has just been a speed bump to immigration so I do not see where it would be much of a stretch for the magic pen and phone to make this happen. I think anybody that is associated with that group should be stateless and deported to their new found friends.

It just kills me when Liberal neophytes, say things like, the constitution is outdated or our Fore fathers never could have imagined this or that.

Yes they did . That is why they gave us an avenue to amend it.

[OriZ 3,157]

You'd think that would be a given. Not only in the US but globally, should have been done years ago.

[Merrytooth 5,748]

If those Americans / LPR found supporting ISIS but still inside US - they should be dealt with by authorities.

US citizen passport cancelled to prevent them from traveling out of the country.

LPR status cancelled, and deported eventually.

Those who already left US, their passports and citizenship/ LPR status cancelled.

[Dakine10 5,452]

We would have to change the constitution to do this. I doubt there is enough support for changing the constitution, and if there is, I can think of other things to work on first.

They should be tried with treason. The punishment for treason makes revoking citizenship a moot point.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Dakine10

[ILoveMonica1 43]

Why revoke citizenship? Life in Supermax should work just fine.

[Dakine10 5,452]

The poll should be split in two.

LPR's can already lose their green card under current law for supporting terrorism. Citizenship can not currently be revoked. Those are two different processes.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

The poll should be split in two.

LPR's can already lose their green card under current law for supporting terrorism. Citizenship can not currently be revoked. Those are two different processes.

Yes it can . Join the military of an enemy is one

[Robby999 1,024]

The poll should be split in two.

LPR's can already lose their green card under current law for supporting terrorism. Citizenship can not currently be revoked. Those are two different processes.

Would you support revoking citizenship from Americans and green cards from Permanent residents who join ISIS?

Note the operative word underlined, I did not ask if you can or can't revoke citizenship.