This might help explain why certain people here seem to lack empathy

[heo luoi 206]

funny when the post said 'here' thought they meant VJ not the US?
I come to VJ cause I do think its more natural communicating to people that are too in the process and empathize and understand. But I do have much less empathy for those that indicate a clear lack of effort in their search and site utilization....so perhaps I'm somewhere in the middle As I have gotten older I have noticed and make a concerted effort to empathize even when I can't relate explicitly....but also easily get annoyed like by the horrible drivers over lunch today.

Theres just a lot of desensitization here.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

i have not seen this honestly. I would not assume people that are vocal about their views have no sympathy towards the victims.

Try the S.C. church shooting

[decocker 7,198]

i have not seen this honestly. I would not assume people that are vocal about their views have no sympathy towards the victims.

there are people who don't believe that there are any victims in mass shootings, because the mass shootings are performed by actors.

*cough

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

i have not seen this honestly. I would not assume people that are vocal about their views have no sympathy towards the victims.

It's pretty obvious. In some cases, the killer gets more sympathy than the victims. Like Janelle pointed out, Roof pretty much got the stamp of approval when he went on his murder spree.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's sad but not all that surprising... The south will eventually join the rest of the nation in the XXI century...

It's pretty obvious. In some cases, the killer gets more sympathy than the victims. Like Janelle pointed out, Roof pretty much got the stamp of approval when he went on his murder spree.

[Darnell 8,478]

Alas, a BS post based on dysfunctional links on datasets that are not connected. Did you really mean to post this quote of a wall of text?

I ask, 'cause it seems that someone else hacked your account...

https://hbr.org/2015/10/its-harder-to-empathize-with-people-if-youve-been-in-their-shoes

oct15-20-557061009

Imagine that you have just become a new parent. Overwhelmed and exhausted, your performance at work is suffering. You desperately want to work from home part-time to devote more attention to your family. One of your supervisors had children while climbing the corporate ladder, while the other hasnt. Which supervisor is more likely to embrace your request?

Most people would recommend approaching the supervisor who has children, drawing on the intuition that shared experience breeds empathy. After all, she has been there and thus seems best placed to understand your situation.

Our recent research suggests that this instinct is very often wrong.

In a series of recent experiments, we found that people who endured challenges in the past (like divorce or being skipped over for a promotion) were less likely to show compassion for someone facing the same struggle, compared with people with no experience in that particular situation.

In the first experiment, we surveyed people participating in a polar plunge a jump into a very icy Lake Michigan in March. All participants read a story about a man named Pat who intended to complete the plunge, but chickened out and withdrew from the event at the last minute. Critically, participants read about Pat either before they had completed the plunge themselves, or one week after. We found that polar plungers who had successfully completed the plunge were less compassionate and more contemptuous of Pat than were those who had not yet completed the plunge.

In another study, we looked at compassion toward an individual struggling with unemployment. More than 200 people read a story about a man who despite his best efforts is unable to find a job. Struggling to make ends meet, the man ultimately stoops to selling drugs in order to earn money. The results: people who had overcome a period of unemployment in the past were less compassionate and more judgmental of the man than were people who were currently unemployed or had never been involuntary unemployed.

A third study examined compassion toward a bullied teenager. Participants were either told that the teen was successfully coping with the bullying, or failed to cope by lashing out violently. Compared to participants who had no experience with bullying, participants who reported having been bullied in the past themselves were more compassionate toward the teen who was appropriately coping with the experience. But, similar to our earlier studies, participants who were bullied in the past were the least compassionate toward the teen who failed to successfully cope with the bullying.

Taken together, these results suggest that people who have endured a difficult experience are particularly likely to penalize those who struggle to cope with a similar ordeal.

But why does this occur? We suggest that this phenomenon is rooted in two psychological truths.

First, people generally have difficulty accurately recalling just how difficult a past aversive experience was. Though we may remember that a past experience was painful, stressful, or emotionally trying, we tend to underestimate just how painful that experience felt in the moment. This phenomenon is called an empathy gap.

Second, people who have previously overcome an aversive experience know that they were able to successfully overcome it, which makes them feel especially confident about their understanding of just how difficult the situation is. The combined experience of I cant recall how difficult it was and I know that I got through it myself creates the perception that the event can be readily conquered, reducing empathy toward others struggling with the event.

This finding seems to run counter to our intuitions. When we asked participants to predict who would show the most compassion for the bullied teenager, for instance either a teacher whod endured bullying himself, or one who never had an overwhelming 99 out of the 112 people chose the teacher who had been bullied. This means that many people may be instinctively seeking compassion from the very people who are least likely to provide it.

This clearly has implications for peer-to-peer office communication (choose the person you vent to carefully). And mentorship programs, which often pair people from similar backgrounds or experiences, may need to be reexamined. But there are also important lessons for leaders. When approached by employees in distress, leaders may believe that their own emotional reaction to the issue should guide their response. For example, an executive who broke the glass ceiling may focus on own her success when considering an employees concerns about discrimination. Similarly, managers in overworked industries such as consulting and banking may respond to employees concerns about burnout and fatigue with comments such as, I had to work those hours, so why are you complaining? (And in fact, there is some evidence that this mechanism is at play when older workers push back on reforms designed to help cut down on overwork.)

Simply put, leaders need get outside of their own heads to place less emphasis, not more, on their own past challenges. To bridge the empathy gap, leaders may be best served by focusing on how upset the other person seems to be, or to remind themselves that many others struggle with the same challenge. Returning to the opening example, the supervisor approached by an exhausted new parent could instead think about the countless other new parents who struggle to find work-life balance, many of whom are ultimately pushed out of the workplace.

When were trying to encourage someone to be more empathetic, we often say something like, walk a mile in his shoes. As it turns out, that may be exactly the wrong thing to say to people who have worn those shoes themselves.

Alas, a BS post based on dysfunctional links on datasets that are not connected. Did you really mean to post this quote of a wall of text?

I ask, 'cause it seems that someone else hacked your account...

https://hbr.org/2015/10/its-harder-to-empathize-with-people-if-youve-been-in-their-shoes

oct15-20-557061009

Imagine that you have just become a new parent. Overwhelmed and exhausted, your performance at work is suffering. You desperately want to work from home part-time to devote more attention to your family. One of your supervisors had children while climbing the corporate ladder, while the other hasnt. Which supervisor is more likely to embrace your request?

Most people would recommend approaching the supervisor who has children, drawing on the intuition that shared experience breeds empathy. After all, she has been there and thus seems best placed to understand your situation.

Our recent research suggests that this instinct is very often wrong.

In a series of recent experiments, we found that people who endured challenges in the past (like divorce or being skipped over for a promotion) were less likely to show compassion for someone facing the same struggle, compared with people with no experience in that particular situation.

In the first experiment, we surveyed people participating in a polar plunge a jump into a very icy Lake Michigan in March. All participants read a story about a man named Pat who intended to complete the plunge, but chickened out and withdrew from the event at the last minute. Critically, participants read about Pat either before they had completed the plunge themselves, or one week after. We found that polar plungers who had successfully completed the plunge were less compassionate and more contemptuous of Pat than were those who had not yet completed the plunge.

In another study, we looked at compassion toward an individual struggling with unemployment. More than 200 people read a story about a man who despite his best efforts is unable to find a job. Struggling to make ends meet, the man ultimately stoops to selling drugs in order to earn money. The results: people who had overcome a period of unemployment in the past were less compassionate and more judgmental of the man than were people who were currently unemployed or had never been involuntary unemployed.

A third study examined compassion toward a bullied teenager. Participants were either told that the teen was successfully coping with the bullying, or failed to cope by lashing out violently. Compared to participants who had no experience with bullying, participants who reported having been bullied in the past themselves were more compassionate toward the teen who was appropriately coping with the experience. But, similar to our earlier studies, participants who were bullied in the past were the least compassionate toward the teen who failed to successfully cope with the bullying.

Taken together, these results suggest that people who have endured a difficult experience are particularly likely to penalize those who struggle to cope with a similar ordeal.

But why does this occur? We suggest that this phenomenon is rooted in two psychological truths.

First, people generally have difficulty accurately recalling just how difficult a past aversive experience was. Though we may remember that a past experience was painful, stressful, or emotionally trying, we tend to underestimate just how painful that experience felt in the moment. This phenomenon is called an empathy gap.

Second, people who have previously overcome an aversive experience know that they were able to successfully overcome it, which makes them feel especially confident about their understanding of just how difficult the situation is. The combined experience of I cant recall how difficult it was and I know that I got through it myself creates the perception that the event can be readily conquered, reducing empathy toward others struggling with the event.

This finding seems to run counter to our intuitions. When we asked participants to predict who would show the most compassion for the bullied teenager, for instance either a teacher whod endured bullying himself, or one who never had an overwhelming 99 out of the 112 people chose the teacher who had been bullied. This means that many people may be instinctively seeking compassion from the very people who are least likely to provide it.

This clearly has implications for peer-to-peer office communication (choose the person you vent to carefully). And mentorship programs, which often pair people from similar backgrounds or experiences, may need to be reexamined. But there are also important lessons for leaders. When approached by employees in distress, leaders may believe that their own emotional reaction to the issue should guide their response. For example, an executive who broke the glass ceiling may focus on own her success when considering an employees concerns about discrimination. Similarly, managers in overworked industries such as consulting and banking may respond to employees concerns about burnout and fatigue with comments such as, I had to work those hours, so why are you complaining? (And in fact, there is some evidence that this mechanism is at play when older workers push back on reforms designed to help cut down on overwork.)

Simply put, leaders need get outside of their own heads to place less emphasis, not more, on their own past challenges. To bridge the empathy gap, leaders may be best served by focusing on how upset the other person seems to be, or to remind themselves that many others struggle with the same challenge. Returning to the opening example, the supervisor approached by an exhausted new parent could instead think about the countless other new parents who struggle to find work-life balance, many of whom are ultimately pushed out of the workplace.

When were trying to encourage someone to be more empathetic, we often say something like, walk a mile in his shoes. As it turns out, that may be exactly the wrong thing to say to people who have worn those shoes themselves.

[Darnell 8,478]

THE SOUTH?

You wish to make a demographic assessment? I claim you not have the background or research skills.

Ya, thats a lot, coming from me, but its focused on you.

Read more, please...

It's sad but not all that surprising... The south will eventually join the rest of the nation in the XXI century...

[Póg mo 1,749]

Alas, a BS post based on dysfunctional links on datasets that are not connected. Did you really mean to post this quote of a wall of text?

I ask, 'cause it seems that someone else hacked your account...

Alas, a BS post based on dysfunctional links on datasets that are not connected. Did you really mean to post this quote of a wall of text?

I ask, 'cause it seems that someone else hacked your account...

Alas a BS post offering nothing but worthless opinion.

[Sousuke 1,214]

Try the S.C. church shooting

On VJ?

It's pretty obvious. In some cases, the killer gets more sympathy than the victims. Like Janelle pointed out, Roof pretty much got the stamp of approval when he went on his murder spree.

On VJ?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

On VJ?

On VJ?

I was suspended for saying a name of a member the last time. I won't do that again

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I was suspended for saying a name of a member the last time. I won't do that again

That is a big no no I think. A lot of us know each others real names.

I thought I was the only one that ever got suspended, cept for Mr Big Dog and Dave

[Janelle2002 3,865]

That is a big no no I think. A lot of us know each others real names.

I thought I was the only one that ever got suspended, cept for Mr Big Dog and Dave

Not a real name, a vj name.

[GandD 5,966]

Yeah, you're not supposed to make singled out attacks about another poster. You're supposed to attack their arguement or reasoning. And no, you can't talk about what happens in private conversations with mods or others for that matter. These guidelines are all meant to protect posters.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

On VJ?

On VJ?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/553476-charleston-shooting-leaves-9-dead-at-ame-church-gunman-remains-at-large/page-7

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Not a real name, a vj name.

You got suspended for saying a person's VJ name?