Interesting ROC interview statistic from USCIS

[Pitaya 2,577]

Interesting, USCIS mentions in this July 2013 response to CISOMB that they (USCIS) have determined through a study of ROC cases in the Northeastern US region (VSC and NER) selected for interview, 67% of those cases referred for interview were denied.

It seemed to be part of self-aggrandizement by USCIS on how good they were on detecting fraud in ROC cases. The USCIS comment fails to mention how many ROC cases were approved at the service center level and were never selected for field office interview.

Source: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/nativedocuments/Response_to_CISOMB_I-751_Recommendation_Signed_7-10-13.pdf

YMMV.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Pitaya

[Cheezees 1,514]

I would have loved if they specified the "certain percentage of Level C cases" that were added to the mix. How much do you want to bet the Level Cs are close to a "shocking" 33%?

So yeah, they lump the fraud-ish cases with some that were clearly not fraud-ish and, viola, some of the cases proved to be fraudulent!

[Pitaya 2,577]

Good point.

Interesting that they throw out those figures in a memo agreeing to the CIBOMB recommendations about the relatively inept way that USCIS is handling ROC cases.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Pitaya

[Pitaya 2,577]

I used other portions of that USCIS response to CISOMB letter in our RFE cover letter. Just wanted to make sure that everyone was working off of the same version and page number of the AFM in a consistent manner.

[Leo7777 243]

Interesting, USCIS mentions in this July 2013 response to CISOMB that they (USCIS) have determined

through a study of ROC cases in the Northeastern US region (VSC and NER) selected for interview,

67% of those cases referred for interview were denied.

It seemed to be part of self-aggrandizement by USCIS on how good they were on detecting fraud in

ROC cases. The USCIS comment fails to mention how many ROC cases were approved at the service center

level and were never selected for field office interview.

Source: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/nativedocuments/Response_to_CISOMB_I-751_Recommendation_Signed_7-10-13.pdf

YMMV.

I don't understand your conclusion. It seems you want to mix percentages with numbers.

It seems that the point of selecting cases for interview is probably that something is suspected.

So if, for example, there is some suspicion about 100 cases, and upon review, it is determined that

67 of them were fraudulent; then this seems to say that their initial screen that selects these 100 is pretty good.

Now are you trying to say that there are probably some that weren't selected for interview that are also fraudulent?

Undoubtedly so. Just as there were some that were selected that passed muster.

Are you looking for a measure of the percentage accepted at service center level that should not have been accepted?

Wouldn't that require a complete review of all the files a second time and home visits, etc.? What would be the cost of that?

And would some still slip through a second time ?

[Pitaya 2,577]

Leo7777, I am not the one mixing the numbers. I believe your inquiry should best be directed to Deputy Director of USCIS. She is the author of the reply to CISOMB recommendations #56 in July 2013. Please review my second paragraph of my initial posting and response #3.

And you ask some very good and interesting questions that are again likely best directed to the Deputy Director for USCIS.

I would suggest that you consider the intent of the CISOMB recommendations on the level of performance of USCIS as it pertains to ROC petitions and appropriate adjudication.

I was just a smuck that was in the midst of going through one of the remaining "minefields" in my family's immigration journey, and came across this gem from CISOMB.

YMMV.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Pitaya