Bernie Sanders Hugs Muslim Student and Vows to Confront Islamophobia (VIDEO)

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Muslims aren't in charge in the US. I am referring to places where they are in power and Islamic law is enforced.

For that matter, and speaking of, you really don't have any room to talk about slavery either. Slavery is openly practiced in Africa, today, under Islamic law. For all of your comments about slavery 100+ years ago in the US I wonder why you identify with the beliefs in the last places on the planet where slavery is openly practiced and justified, because of those beliefs and teachings.

What say you? If you were in my place wouldn't that seem a little hypocritical? If this and the death penalty for things like criticizing Islam or being gay are a fundamental part of the law why would anyone not be concerned about putting those who practice these beliefs in charge?

I think you need to revisit that earlier comment. Unlike you, I know and see Sharia law and live under Sharia law so I get to see it first-hand. It's effective, but it isn't freedom and it isn't pretty when a mistake is made.

I am not talking about a few thousand or a fraction. I am talking about whole countries and entire parts of the world where this a part of established law and is the rule, not the exception and that includes those who want to live peacefully.

Why can't I talk? Last time I checked, I'm not African. I'm black. I was born here and have never been to Africa. How does Africa affect me? What does what happens in Africa have to do what goes on here? Can we add what Russians are doing over there to what people are doing here, since the only common denominator is skin color?

In Russia and other countries bridal kidnapping is practiced, and these are Christian countries. But that's none of my business. You want me to be outraged about a country that has NOTHING to do with black people instead of looking at the system that unfairly targets us here in THIS country.

And I'm talking about Muslims here in this country. 6.67 million is not a small number and they live here doing the right thing.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Kazakhstan practices it. This practice originated with Russia and many of the countries that broke away from Russia still practice it. Many girls commit suicide after being kidnapped, they are murdered if they don't agree with the marriage and raped.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

So the GOP that believes in being racist, Islamophobic, anti-women is the better party because they stick with their antiquated and hateful ideas?

Says the man who is constantly offended by labels, sterotypes, and genralzations

[Expat1 971]

Why can't I talk? Last time I checked, I'm not African. I'm black. I was born here and have never been to Africa. How does Africa affect me? What does what happens in Africa have to do what goes on here? Can we add what Russians are doing over there to what people are doing here, since the only common denominator is skin color?

In Russia and other countries bridal kidnapping is practiced, and these are Christian countries. But that's none of my business. You want me to be outraged about a country that has NOTHING to do with black people instead of looking at the system that unfairly targets us here in THIS country.

And I'm talking about Muslims here in this country. 6.67 million is not a small number and they live here doing the right thing.

Didn't say you were African. Said slavery is openly practiced in the Muslim controlled areas of Africa. Why would that simple and factual comment make you feel so defensive? Religion is a set of beliefs and teachings, and the beliefs and teachings that you say you practice are the same beliefs and teachings that justify slavery and mistreatment of women. Shared beliefs and teachings and practices is not the same as shared race. Dunno why you would identify with the African slaveholders so strongly LOL.

Those 6.67 million are not in charge. Get the difference?

Russia is a christian country? Bridal kidnapping is written into Russian law? Copy and paste that law please. Please go get it.

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[Expat1 971]

There is just one problem with the above highlighted quote. None if it is actually and factually true.

Racism, bigotry, and harsh treatment of women IS true in Islamic countries. One example - many sexually and physically abused maids do themselves or members of the household where they are working in every year. Indonesia no longer allows women to work as maids or nannies in the ME because of the way they are treated.

Wonder why someone who is so concerned with this would identify with the teachings, beliefs, and practices of people who genuinely believe that it is their religious right to do it.

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[Expat1 971]

Says the man who is constantly offended by labels, sterotypes, and genralzations

Says the man who declared he is a Muslim why? My guess is this:

It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a kaafir (non-Muslim), whether he is Jewish, Christian or an idol-worshipper, because the man has authority over his wife, and it is not permissible for a kaafir to have authority over a Muslim woman. For Islam is the true religion and all other religions are false. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone)” [al-Baqarah 2:221]

“And never will Allaah grant to the disbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers” [al-Nisaa’ 4:141]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam should prevail and should not be prevailed over.”

If a Muslim woman marries a kaafir when she knows the ruling, then she is a zaaniyah (adulteress), and her punishment is the punishment for adultery. If she was ignorant of the ruling then she is excused, but they must be separated, and there is no need for a divorce because the marriage is null and void. On this basis, the Muslim woman whom Allaah has honoured with Islam and her guardian must beware of that and must adhere to the limits set by Allaah, and they must feel proud of Islam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who take disbelievers for Awliyaa’ (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allaah belongs all honour, power and glory” [al-Nisaa’ 4:139]

But he's offended because people who think they should be free to make basic decisions, like choose who to marry, regardless of race or religion, are concerned about putting people who practice these beliefs in charge.

SMH. Anyone want to guess what the Islamic punishment for adultery is? Again, irony at its highest and most pure form. Forcing a religion to allow a marriage is a form of slavery in itself.

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[Expat1 971]

Kazakhstan practices it. This practice originated with Russia and many of the countries that broke away from Russia still practice it. Many girls commit suicide after being kidnapped, they are murdered if they don't agree with the marriage and raped.

OH cool. Then that makes Islamic treatment of women OK then. Thanks for sharing.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Kazakhstan practices it. This practice originated with Russia and many of the countries that broke away from Russia still practice it. Many girls commit suicide after being kidnapped, they are murdered if they don't agree with the marriage and raped.

Although local Kazakhs regard consensual kidnapping as a Kazakh tradition -

Kazakh Women and the Post-Soviet Transition. For Kazakh women, the post-Soviet "transition" has reversed a number of positive developments that emerged in the Soviet era. Women who once benefitted from policies that guaranteed education, employment, daycare, and medical care are now faced with a situation where unemployment is rampant, daycare is nonexistent, and higher education and health care are no longer affordable. Furthermore, Marxist ideals that promoted gender equality are being replaced with new nationalist ideals that emphasize more "traditional" gender roles.Non-Consensual versus Consensual Bride Kidnapping. In the southern regions of Kazakhstan, the impact of the post-Soviet transition is best exemplified by the rise of non-consensual bride kidnapping. Bride kidnapping is one of several paths to marriage, most of which now involve the consent of both the bride and the groom. Bride kidnapping has a long history in Kazakhstan, and the majority of kidnappings involve the bride's implicit or explicit consent. In a typical case, the bride verbally consents to marriage one day and then her boyfriend later surprises her by "kidnapping" her on an unplanned date. - See more at: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-rise-non-consensual-bride-kidnapping-kazakhstan-developing-culturally-informed-and#sthash.FnYlQ9q4.dpuf

Just throw anything out there and try to make it stick .

[OriZ 3,157]

Racism, bigotry, and harsh treatment of women IS true in Islamic countries. One example - many sexually and physically abused maids do themselves or members of the household where they are working in every year. Indonesia no longer allows women to work as maids or nannies in the ME because of the way they are treated.

Wonder why someone who is so concerned with this would identify with the teachings, beliefs, and practices of people who genuinely believe that it is their religious right to do it.

Hello, dude? Are you the same person?

Somebody please bring Expat back, I miss him.

You really think you need to explain that, to me, the Israeli?

the comment you pasted from me was a response to him saying that's what the GOP believes in, I was simply saying it is not true.

Carry on

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[Teddy B 17,252]

Aren't you forcing me to do something I don't want to do? What if I don't want to deal with it? What's with you moderates? I feel like my freedom is being taken from me

Take it from the real Middle Of The Road Man, he's no moderate.

[Teddy B 17,252]

So the GOP that believes in being racist, Islamophobic, anti-women is the better party because they stick with their antiquated and hateful ideas?

Hey, consistency counts!

[Expat1 971]

Hello, dude? Are you the same person?

Somebody please bring Expat back, I miss him.

You really think you need to explain that, to me, the Israeli?

the comment you pasted from me was a response to him saying that's what the GOP believes in, I was simply saying it is not true.

Carry on

LOL

Same applies to the collection of Zionist right that currently governs Israel and if you start defending some of their wrongs I'll e-smack you too.

As I said, I strongly disagree with mixing religion and politics. I have come to think we are aligned on that.

[OriZ 3,157]

LOL

Same applies to the collection of Zionist right that currently governs Israel and if you start defending some of their wrongs I'll e-smack you too.

As I said, I strongly disagree with mixing religion and politics. I have come to think we are aligned on that.

We are, and I do not defend religious aspects in the Israeli gov. I also strongly believe and have mentioned before that Israelis should have the right to get married in Israel in a civil ceremony and not have to fly to Cyprus like my wife and I did.

Where we differ is some aspects of Israeli policy that either have nothing to do with religion, or that you attribute to but I do not.

Other than that I have no qualms.

[Expat1 971]

In the southern regions of Kazakhstan, the impact of the post-Soviet transition is best exemplified by the rise of non-consensual bride kidnapping.

Since the break from Soviet rule and the reversion back to old tradition and cultural pride under Islam in 1991, bride kidnapping has steadily risen. And although bride-napping is illegal, most villages in Kyrgyzstan operate under de facto ruled councils which aren’t necessarily bound to state legal practices. The councils don’t seem to take the crime seriously, despite the large numbers of spousal violence, divorce and suicide as a result of the marriages.

Yeah. Next.

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[Janelle2002 3,865]

OH cool. Then that makes Islamic treatment of women OK then. Thanks for sharing.

Huh? Didn't know you thought any form of wrongdoing is acceptable. But if that's the way you think.