Bernie Sanders Hugs Muslim Student and Vows to Confront Islamophobia (VIDEO)

[GandD 5,966]

Do you think that attitude was prevalent before they sunk half the Pacfic fleet and killed 1000s in a sneak attack, Batan, etc etc.

Absolutely. Asians, especially the Chinese were considered less than human when they immigrated enmass in the 1800's. It was a slave trade in everything but name. It's no surprise a lot of that sentiment was still prevalent in the early 1900's.

[Sousuke 1,214]

And also, the same thing could have been said for people of German and Italian descent during WWII. But it wasn't

Germans, Germanity if you will, was deeply damaged during WW1. I would say after the telegraph to Mexico was intercepted the US became deeply anti-german. Here is a link below:

https://www.boundless.com/u-s-history/textbooks/boundless-u-s-history-textbook/world-war-i-1914-1919-23/the-american-181/the-anti-german-crusade-988-8773/

Eddie Rickenbacker, even americanized his last name.

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[yuna628 9,736]

Do you think that attitude was prevalent before they sunk half the Pacfic fleet and killed 1000s in a sneak attack, Batan, etc etc.

That attitude (a negative one) towards Japanese Americans and generations of early immigrants? Do you seriously have no knowledge of this?

Such attitudes in America have been around since the 1800s.

[Sousuke 1,214]

The 2 correlate. It's hard to tell which legal gun owners or their children will go boom one day. Maybe locking them up is logical, yes? Better yet, why not lock up black and white males 14-30 in the U.S.? We don't know which one will be the next gang banger or Colorado theater shooter.

The terrorist were using guns in Paris. Yes? No? Correct me if I'm wromg. They used g u n s, yes?

I see what you are doing here. In many ways this is why I understand your and Stay Wokes position and sympathize.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Absolutely. Asians, especially the Chinese were considered less than human when they immigrated enmass in the 1800's. It was a slave trade in everything but name. It's no surprise a lot of that sentiment was still prevalent in the early 1900's.

Asians or Chinese. I think in Today's culture it's the opposite .

[Boiler 46,232]

Lots of excellent posts explaining why Allah will prevail.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Germans, Germanity if you will, was deeply damaged during WW1. I would say after the telegraph to Mexico was intercepted the US became deeply anti-german. Here is a link below:

https://www.boundless.com/u-s-history/textbooks/boundless-u-s-history-textbook/world-war-i-1914-1919-23/the-american-181/the-anti-german-crusade-988-8773/

Eddie Rickenbacker, even americanized his last name.

So to what extent were Germans and Italians interned? I actually posted the numbers on this a few months back. Most of the Germans were German nationals, not US citizens.

Anti - German sentiment existed. I'm not saying it shouldn't have with Germany, or Japan. We were at war. I'm saying we shouldn't have locked up US citizens because of race. That is, as they say, racist!

[Boiler 46,232]

So to what extent were Germans and Italians interned? I actually posted the numbers on this a few months back. Most of the Germans were German nationals, not US citizens.

Anti - German sentiment existed. I'm not saying it shouldn't have with Germany, or Japan. We were at war. I'm saying we shouldn't have locked up US citizens because of race. That is, as they say, racist!

Master Racist

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

So to what extent were Germans and Italians interned? I actually posted the numbers on this a few months back. Most of the Germans were German nationals, not US citizens.

Anti - German sentiment existed. I'm not saying it shouldn't have with Germany, or Japan. We were at war. I'm saying we shouldn't have locked up US citizens because of race. That is, as they say, racist!

You have brought up some good points and I have enjoyed your insights. It's refreshing to have an educational conversation here, from an opposing point of view without all insults and Masturbation references.

So let me ask. Why do you think the Germans were not as stereotyped.

One caveat-- I would bet many of those relocated supported Japan.

[eieio 1,594]

Lots of excellent posts explaining why Allah will prevail.

I agree . Lets just talk about what should or should not have happened 70+ years ago. #### happens during war and we need to figure out away to eliminate the Islam "extremists" today.

[Dakine10 5,452]

You have brought up some good points and I have enjoyed your insights. It's refreshing to have an educational conversation here, from an opposing point of view without all insults and Masturbation references.

So let me ask. Why do you think the Germans were not as stereotyped.

One caveat-- I would bet many of those relocated supported Japan.

Obviously it's easier segregate based on race. That's one of the cornerstones of racism.

Most Japanese Americans did not support Japan. Many were ashamed which is why they didn't talk about it for years.

There was one incident in Hawaii, Niihau, where a Japanese American family tried to conceal a crashed Japanese pilot. There was no internment in Hawaii and there were many Japanese Americans. And one real incident that occurred because of it.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Obviously it's easier segregate based on race. That's one of the cornerstones of racism.

Most Japanese Americans did not support Japan. Many were ashamed which is why they didn't talk about it for years.

There was one incident in Hawaii, Niihau, where a Japanese American family tried to conceal a crashed Japanese pilot. There was no internment in Hawaii and there were many Japanese Americans. And one real incident that occurred because of it.

Well darn. I guess it must just be all these Filipinos I know, that said they would support the Philippines

[Dakine10 5,452]

Well darn. I guess it must just be all these Filipinos I know, that said they would support the Philippines

Have them join the site and contribute to the discussion. Filipino's I would expect to support the Philippines.

I was talking about Americans. Of Japanese ancestry. Most Americans have an ancestry of a different country. I wouldn't advocate locking anyone up because of it.

That actually sounds un-American to me.

[yuna628 9,736]

It's not an easy question to answer why Germans were less 'problematic' than a Japanese person in those times, and yet.. it is an easy question, just one that is often an uncomfortable and complex truth. German heritage in America more or less has been around since colonist times... Asian immigration came into the mix much later and under very different circumstances, with a whole host of rather obvious insulting racial reasons why the Japanese were pegged. Germans, however did receive scrunity based on left-over laws during the Revolutionary war. Hessian Germans brutally fought during those times for the British, and many of our patriots (Scot-Irish immigrants for example) fought them bravely. One of my ancestors were among these, and found himself dragged off to a prison camp during the Revolutionary War by the Hessians. Returning patriots after the war, and you can imagine Germans settlers weren't well thought of, and still at the same time there were other German immigrants, in particular in Pennsylvania for instance that took a more pacifist approach toward the war and got along well, though not without difficulty and racism. Pre WWII and during, the Alien Sedition act (which as I mentioned before was born from the revolutionary war period) came down quite heavily upon honest kindly German immigrants and full-fledged German Americans to this country who had escaped brutality or had lived here for generations. I know this in reviewing my own ancestor's records and stories. Like the Japanese, they were rounded up and civil rights abuses ran rampant. Despite this though, the spirit of Nazism and anti-semitism did exist (and still shamefully does today!), and those who joined the communist party in America (and even in the UK) remained largely untouched. Contrast this to the Japanese who like other groups of Asian immigrants that entered this country in the 1800s, had it extremely rough from the get-go. Being blamed for everything from disease, witchcraft, mocked for their looks, accent, manner of dress, religion, or being ''lesser beings'' -- racism towards these groups was extremely prevalent as was sexual slavery. Despite this, Japanese men and women integrated the best they could for generations in the US, they bravely fought in WWII and endured just as much racism and brutality as African Americans in combat. But back home thousands of families were rounded up and placed in camps.. an appalling chapter in our history, and one we are ever dangerously close to repeating if we learn nothing from it. Japanese here were supportive of our cause. I cannot speak for how those persons felt about the innocents that were killed during the bombings in Japan at the close of the war, just as it is a subject of debate now. It must of been a painful thing to witness. As mentioned above the Japanese culture of honor and shame is common... many felt very grieved.

There is never any justification to the internment of our citizens. Period.

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Have them join the site and contribute to the discussion. Filipino's I would expect to support the Philippines.

I was talking about Americans. Of Japanese ancestry. Most Americans have an ancestry of a different country. I wouldn't advocate locking anyone up because of it.

That actually sounds un-American to me.

Ok you win ?

Let's get back to guns race or Muslims