i need help on i-864 (merged threads)

[Ryan H 3,834]

Where in the instructions does it state you cannot use your home unless you own more than one? That you can only use a second vehicle, yes, but not that you may only use a second property.

Primary homes would be disallowed under this provision in the instructions; the key words in bold and red.

Only assets that can be converted into cash within one year and without considerable hardship or financial loss to the owner may be included.

Liquidation of a primary home in the event of the terms of the I-864 not being met would constitute a considerable and undue hardship to the owner.

I'll grant that the instructions should be more clear about this issue.

[dady12 12]

The current income is the most important thing. If she makes $30,000 a year in income, then that is enough for a household of 3. She needs to provide proof of that income, and then she can add in her assets on top of the income, if she wishes. I wouldn't rely on just a home value alone. They will look at the overall totality of the situation to decide if you will become a public charge or not.

thank you very much for your time,i will try to kniw how many people are in her household for that income and we are going to put up that income and the house together for the process.thank you for your time

[Pitaya 2,577]

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[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Primary homes would be disallowed under this provision in the instructions; the key words in bold and red.

Liquidation of a primary home in the event of the terms of the I-864 not being met would constitute a considerable and undue hardship to the owner.

I'll grant that the instructions should be more clear about this issue.

I know it states that all assets need to be liquidated without hardship, but it never states in the instructions that you may not use the value of a home unless you own more than one property. It only states that outright about automobiles. If they only ever allowed the value of property if it was not the only one you owned, then they would add that stipulation along with the one about cars.

Each case is different. Someone might own a home/property that has a high value, and therefore selling it off and downsizing to a cheaper property would not be a considerable hardship. And as I already told the OP in this thread, I wouldn't rely on the house value alone, unless of course the OP's joint sponsor has property with a very high appraisal/net value. They always like to see ongoing, stable income above anything else.

[dady12 12]

I know it states that all assets need to be liquidated without hardship, but it never states in the instructions that you may not use the value of a home unless you own more than one property. It only states that outright about automobiles. If they only ever allowed the value of property if it was not the only one you owned, then they would add that stipulation along with the one about cars.

Each case is different. Someone might own a home/property that has a high value, and therefore selling it off and downsizing to a cheaper property would not be a considerable hardship. And as I already told the OP in this thread, I wouldn't rely on the house value alone, unless of course the OP's joint sponsor has property with a very high appraisal/net value. They always like to see ongoing, stable income above anything else.

thank you very much for yoir precious time,you ve totally educated me on this issue,my cosponsor ve another yearly income of $30000 but i dont know her household size on this and i dont want to give her sleepless night base on this issue,i beleive with that yearly income of $30000 and her house worth of $140000 will be acceptable by NVC.thanks

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

thank you very much for yoir precious time,you ve totally educated me on this issue,my cosponsor ve another yearly income of $30000 but i dont know her household size on this and i dont want to give her sleepless night base on this issue,i beleive with that yearly income of $30000 and her house worth of $140000 will be acceptable by NVC.thanks

You need to know the household size. She will fill that out on her I-864. Her household size is herself, any spouse, any minor children, anyone else she claims as a dependent on her taxes, plus you, the intending immigrant. So, figure up what her household size will be. $30,312 is enough for a household of 4. These are the income requirements > http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf

If her household will actually only total 3, then her income alone is enough without any assets needed.

[NikLR 13,232]

He said earlier it was 2.

I gave him a figure for JUST assets. 5x the poverty guidelines for 3 people (joint sponsor, spouse, and beneficiary.) He said they weren't working..

Unless he's talking about a new person?

[dady12 12]

You need to know the household size. She will fill that out on her I-864. Her household size is herself, any spouse, any minor children, anyone else she claims as a dependent on her taxes, plus you, the intending immigrant. So, figure up what her household size will be. $30,312 is enough for a household of 4. These are the income requirements > http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf

If her household will actually only total 3, then her income alone is enough without any assets needed.

thank you very much for yoir time,i will ask for household size and i pray that income should be enough for this process as this is really drive me crazy as hell,getting sponsor is not that easy as some people thinking negative as one might sue them in the future

He said earlier it was 2.

I gave him a figure for JUST assets. 5x the poverty guidelines for 3 people (joint sponsor, spouse, and beneficiary.) He said they weren't working..

Unless he's talking about a new person?

thank you very much for your assistance and your time,i really appreciate ,i will ask my sponsor aboit her household size and i pray that should be enough otherwise we use the asset in addition to it

[dady12 12]

I am been searching for a sponsor over a while now as my petition has gotten to the stage of support,the yearly earning of my cosponsor in 2012 and 2013 are good but fall short in 2014 due to sickness and it is above the poverty guildline in 2015 but right now she ve not file for her tax return,she have pay stubs and letter from employer showing that she made above the poverty guildline ,she also ve cash in the bank and some little asset,please i need an advice in what to do and what to submit ,can we use bank acciunt statement to support the 2014 that she fall short or what exactly can will do with the asset and cash in the bank and the rest of tax return,she also recieve foster income from state.thanks as i hope for you reply

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

several recent paystubs supporting the good salary, and a bank account statement showing same, as well as a letter from the employer saying the job is stable and long term will help.

Another option would be to wait a month, and have her file taxes for 2015 asap in the new year.

[dady12 12]

several recent paystubs supporting the good salary, and a bank account statement showing same, as well as a letter from the employer saying the job is stable and long term will help.

Another option would be to wait a month, and have her file taxes for 2015 asap in the new year.

ok thank you as she ve a very good savings in her bank accoumt.thanks

[Ryan H 3,834]

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[dady12 12]

My wife is the petitioner and she ve no income other than SSI,we have her cousin who is our cosponsor but her income fall short and we have to add other side income without tax return but we submited a fall in income tax return which NVC rejected,now my wife want to use her cousin with the daughter of this her cousin who is have a seperate tax return,can we use my wife cousin and the daughter of this her cousin as our cosponsor,meaning 2 other cosponsors with my wife?

Edited January 22, 2016 by dady12

[aleful 1,905]

hi

no, they can't combine income, unless they lived in the same household, so you would need to choose her daughter if she makes enough to cover both of you

[dady12 12]

We receive this message from NVC

_____F - FINANCIAL EVIDENCE:______________________________________

We reviewed the Affidavit of Support documentation you sent to the National Visa Center (NVC). According to the current poverty guidelines, it does not appear you or any of your sponsors meet the minimum income requirement to sponsor the intending immigrant(s) for this petition. To avoid delays, you may have an additional sponsor complete an Affidavit of Support (Form I-864) and provide it to the intending immigrant to submit at their interview. At that time, a consular officer will make a decision regarding this requirement.

To view the current poverty guidelines, go to http:.now can we add another person and submit inaddition to this cosponsor?,help me