Tourist or Student Visa?

[Liliaz 0]

Sorry but you do seem to be trying to get to the U.S anyway possible, I have a foreign languages degree, and I've never left my country, and to quit your job and take your child with you just for a 3 month course (which you could totally take online) or at home with native teachers? nope, sorrry, not buying it!

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. And I am not going to be quitting my job. I'd really like to change careers but that probably won't happen for a while. And yeah, I could take some class where I am, and I already have taken a lot of English classes (I think they worked quite well), but I would like to see America, and I'd like to take this free class since it will be English, taught in America, by native speakers. I don't know why this visa process has to be filled with suspicion? I read they only turn down 7 percent of Russians who try to get a tourist visa, so I think the people making the decisions are less suspicious than you think!

[Mrs.Hull210 24]

If you want to see America, come see it! If you want to take some free classes or discounted classes, take them! If you want to stay with a friend who is maybe a boy or maybe a girl, stay with your friend. If you want to bring your child or leave your child, it's your choice. If you have true intentions to just visit and go back to your home country, then try your luck with the visitor visa. None of us here will be your CO, and you surely don't have to persuade or justify anything to anyone here. I'm sure some of these comments were trying to be helpful by showing you what concerns immigration may have with your intentions, but in all honesty I know some were just downright negative and not very helpful, even though this site is meant to be a positive place for encouragement, advice, and all that. With whatever you choose to do, I wish you the best on your journey. If you make it here, I hope you enjoy the sights, and may you have a blast with the classes you are wishing to take.

[az2014 381]

From your posts its clear to see your English is fine.

You are suspicious because you keep coming up with new ideas, anything to go to the US.

If you want to apply then do it. I wouldn't put your hopes up as we can see straight through you and the CO will too.

[Vicha 7]

Well, ELS school It's actually, not a school, it's classes you can take at any Adult Education Center in your county. ESL classes are really free - usually State pays for it. Classes supposed to help non-English speaking people from different countries to acclimate and be able to speak English at least A LITTLE. It's a good idea, but it's definitely wrong place to "get rid of bad accent and start speak English fluently"

When I arrived here, I have visited ESL for a short time, trying "to kill "my time, waiting for EAD.

Anyway, first, anybody can take these classes - the student visa is not required.. None visa is required And it does not matter what is your immigration status either - they don't even ask for your ID to sign

Second, they don't last only 3 months - there is no time limit to take the classes. I know people, who have been visiting classes for years, some of them already have their citizenship and they still go to ESL school..

And third.. I agree with all of you, guys, - I think OP just keeps looking for any opportunity to come here, to the US, "creating" different stories, friend and circumstances.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Vicha

[Boiler 45,951]

The discussion can go on and on and makes no difference as none of will be making the call.

My starting point on these questions, and there have been many, is does it pass the smell test, is it logical.

I have done similar things in the past, but not for 3 months, taking Gap years and travelling is quite common in the UK.

But the OP seemingly has limited funds and a child in tow, child needs to go to School?, not saying this is totally impossible but seems very odd.

Perhaps there is something that has not been shared that would explain all.

[MacUK 983]

even though this site is meant to be a positive place for encouragement, advice, and all that.

Unfortunately sometimes encouragement and advice don't go hand in hand on this site.

Sometimes encouragement can equal bad advice, and good advice can equally not be very encouraging.

The OP has started threads for advice on visas using two totally different scenarios. To a suspicious CO (and they are ALL suspicious, that's their job) it could appear that she is just shopping around for any valid way to get to the US.

Encouragement would be to just tell her to go for it without any cares.

Good advice would be to highlight some of the difficulties she MAY face, so that she can have a clearer picture of the road ahead.

[Liliaz 0]

If you want to see America, come see it! If you want to take some free classes or discounted classes, take them! If you want to stay with a friend who is maybe a boy or maybe a girl, stay with your friend. If you want to bring your child or leave your child, it's your choice. If you have true intentions to just visit and go back to your home country, then try your luck with the visitor visa. None of us here will be your CO, and you surely don't have to persuade or justify anything to anyone here. I'm sure some of these comments were trying to be helpful by showing you what concerns immigration may have with your intentions, but in all honesty I know some were just downright negative and not very helpful, even though this site is meant to be a positive place for encouragement, advice, and all that. With whatever you choose to do, I wish you the best on your journey. If you make it here, I hope you enjoy the sights, and may you have a blast with the classes you are wishing to take.

That's why I'm posting here, the cost of the visa isn't insignificant to me, and I'd like to have a good chance of getting approval. Also I have heard if you don't get it the first try, it's even harder to try again. So I was looking for tips, but I guess most people here think everything has to be fraud, which isn't the case at all. I just want to know what to say, and what to keep quiet about.

[perla&austin 7]

That's why I'm posting here, the cost of the visa isn't insignificant to me, and I'd like to have a good chance of getting approval. Also I have heard if you don't get it the first try, it's even harder to try again. So I was looking for tips, but I guess most people here think everything has to be fraud, which isn't the case at all. I just want to know what to say, and what to keep quiet about.

When it comes to that, you shouldn't keep quiet about anything, if they ask you something, answer with the truth... period.

You'll never know 'til you try.

Best of luck!