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Posted

Thank you for this. When we moved, he notified them of change of address, but I didn't know I also needed to do so.

Link http://www.uscis.gov/i-865

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

Actually, I do have a few more question.

If I refuse to sign, what happens then? Does he just get an extension until after the divorce has finalized and then he applies on his own? Or could his window of opportunity close which would prevent him from getting his 10-year green card?

From the VJ Guides

Q: Is this the only way to remove conditions?

A: According to the law, detailed in 8 CFR 216.5, the alien can petition to remove conditions by way of a waiver of the joint filing requirement with the US citizen spouse. The waiver may be filed at any time (i.e., before, during or after the 90-day filing window). The waiver may be sought if the joint petition cannot be filed due to:

--o The termination of the marriage through annulment, divorce, or the death of the petitioning spouse;

--o The refusal of the petitioning spouse to join in the filing of the petition;

--o A conditional resident child being unable to be included in the joint petition of his or her parent (e.g., if the parent died before seeking removal of conditions);

--o The conditional resident being unable or unwilling to file the joint petition because the petitioning spouse is an abusive spouse or parent.

He would still need to prove that the marriage was entered into in good faith, i.e. not simply for immigration benefits.

And from USCIS,

If You Are In Divorce Proceedings But Are Not Yet Divorced

If you are still married, but legally separated and/or in pending divorce or annulment proceedings, and:

  • You filed a waiver request. We will issue a request for evidence (RFE) specifically asking for a copy of the final divorce decree or annulment (if applicable).
  • You filed a Form I-751 petition jointly. We will issue a request for evidence (RFE) specifically asking for a copy of the final divorce decree or annulment and a statement that you would like to have your joint filing petition treated as a waiver.

Upon receipt of the final divorce decree or annulment within the specified time period, we will amend the petition, to indicate that eligibility has been established for a waiver of the joint filing requirement based on the termination of the marriage.

Eighteen years in the US and I still don't understand Velveeta, TV ads for prescription drugs, only getting 2 weeks paid vacation, or why anyone believes anything they see on Fox "News".

Posted

From the VJ Guides

Q: Is this the only way to remove conditions?

A: According to the law, detailed in 8 CFR 216.5, the alien can petition to remove conditions by way of a waiver of the joint filing requirement with the US citizen spouse. The waiver may be filed at any time (i.e., before, during or after the 90-day filing window). The waiver may be sought if the joint petition cannot be filed due to:

--o The termination of the marriage through annulment, divorce, or the death of the petitioning spouse;

--o The refusal of the petitioning spouse to join in the filing of the petition;

--o A conditional resident child being unable to be included in the joint petition of his or her parent (e.g., if the parent died before seeking removal of conditions);

--o The conditional resident being unable or unwilling to file the joint petition because the petitioning spouse is an abusive spouse or parent.

He would still need to prove that the marriage was entered into in good faith, i.e. not simply for immigration benefits.

And from USCIS,

Thank you both.

Met in person for the first time: April 23, 2011 in Docklands, London, UK
Engaged: October 29th, 2012 at the John Hancock Building in Chicago, US

Filed K-1 visa application: April 4, 2013
Received text/email notification: April 12, 2013
Received NOA1 in mail: April 17, 2013
Received NOA2 text/email: August 6th, 2013 (at 9:45pm!)

NVC received packet: August 30th, 2013

Beneficiary rcvd "Packet 3" instructions: September 13, 2013

Embassy rcvd completed "Packet 3": September 24, 2013

Police certificate rcvd: September 27, 2013

Medical Appointment: October 2, 2013

Medical Received at Embassy: October 17, 2013 (delay due to request for further info)

Embassy appointment/Visa Approved!!!: November 21st, 2013

VISA RECEIVED!!!: November 28th, 2013

Beneficiary Arrived!!!: December 5th, 2013

Married December 22nd, 2013

Filing to POE: 8 months, 1 day

Filed AoS application: April 5th, 2014

Received NOA1 in mail: April 11th, 2014 (no text/email)

Received NOA2 in mail: September 2nd, 2014 (still no text/email)

Separated: September 2015

Posted

From the VJ Guides

Q: Is this the only way to remove conditions?

A: According to the law, detailed in 8 CFR 216.5, the alien can petition to remove conditions by way of a waiver of the joint filing requirement with the US citizen spouse. The waiver may be filed at any time (i.e., before, during or after the 90-day filing window). The waiver may be sought if the joint petition cannot be filed due to:

--o The termination of the marriage through annulment, divorce, or the death of the petitioning spouse;

--o The refusal of the petitioning spouse to join in the filing of the petition;

--o A conditional resident child being unable to be included in the joint petition of his or her parent (e.g., if the parent died before seeking removal of conditions);

--o The conditional resident being unable or unwilling to file the joint petition because the petitioning spouse is an abusive spouse or parent.

He would still need to prove that the marriage was entered into in good faith, i.e. not simply for immigration benefits.

And from USCIS,

Do you know: If he doesn't file the paperwork properly, or at all (which is, with him, a distinct possibility... I did most of the research and paper-filing during the process), and he remains in the country illegally, does the Affidavit of Support still stand or is that considered him terminating his residency? I wasn't able to find anything about this (they probably assume people will just continue the legal route, I guess).

Met in person for the first time: April 23, 2011 in Docklands, London, UK
Engaged: October 29th, 2012 at the John Hancock Building in Chicago, US

Filed K-1 visa application: April 4, 2013
Received text/email notification: April 12, 2013
Received NOA1 in mail: April 17, 2013
Received NOA2 text/email: August 6th, 2013 (at 9:45pm!)

NVC received packet: August 30th, 2013

Beneficiary rcvd "Packet 3" instructions: September 13, 2013

Embassy rcvd completed "Packet 3": September 24, 2013

Police certificate rcvd: September 27, 2013

Medical Appointment: October 2, 2013

Medical Received at Embassy: October 17, 2013 (delay due to request for further info)

Embassy appointment/Visa Approved!!!: November 21st, 2013

VISA RECEIVED!!!: November 28th, 2013

Beneficiary Arrived!!!: December 5th, 2013

Married December 22nd, 2013

Filing to POE: 8 months, 1 day

Filed AoS application: April 5th, 2014

Received NOA1 in mail: April 11th, 2014 (no text/email)

Received NOA2 in mail: September 2nd, 2014 (still no text/email)

Separated: September 2015

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Responsibility under the i-864 continues until the beneficiary does one of the following:


  • Becomes a US citizen
  • Loses their LPR status and leaves the US permanently
  • Dies
  • Earns 40 qualifying quarters of work credited towards Social Security (i.e. typically after 10 years of qualifying work)


Please re read the post on the previous page. They must lose their LPR status (which will happen if he fails to file for Removal of Conditions) AND leave the US.



Filed: F-1 Visa Country: Yemen
Timeline
Posted

what is 40 fiscal quarters?

Essentially, the Affidavit of Support you signed for him for AOS is the only legal obligation you will have. If he never becomes a public charge, you have nothing to worry about. This obligation disappears once he as worked 40 fiscal quarters in this country (including the time you were married), abandons his legal residency, or becomes a US citizen.


We were typing at the same time.

Yes, correct.

No you can't revoke it.

As stated above: he has to work (on the books) 40 fiscal quarters, abandon his green card or become a US citizen before you're off the hook.

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Social Security "quarters":

Quarters are also known as credits (for SS purposes)

"Credits are the "building blocks" we use to find out whether you have the minimum amount of covered work to qualify for each type of Social Security benefits. If you stop working before you have enough credits to qualify for benefits, your credits will stay on your record. If you return to work later on, you can add more credits so that you can qualify. No benefits can be paid if you do not have enough credits."

"The amount of earnings required for a quarter of coverage (QC) in 2016 is $1,260. "Quarter of coverage" is a legal term, but you may also see the term "Social Security credit" (or just "credit") used elsewhere. A QC is the basic unit for determining whether a worker is insured under the Social Security program. No matter how high your earnings may be, you can not earn more than 4 QC's in one year."

You can see this pamphlet about earning credits.- https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10072.pdf,

you can also view this more in detailed explanation- https://www.socialsecurity.gov/oact/cola/QC.html

When you work and pay Social Security taxes, you earn up to a maximum of four "credits" for each year so for the purposes of the aff of support/ Social Security if you work FULL TIME, it will take apx 10 years to make 40 quarters. If you work part time or sporadically it will take longer.

You can verify your quarters worked for Social Security by requesting your personal earnings and benefit statement available here :
Filed: Timeline
Posted

If I refuse to sign, what happens then?

He can file for divorce, and file for Removal of Conditions under the basis of divorce even though the divorce is not final yet. They will give him an RFE with time to wait for his divorce to be finalized and send in the divorce order.

Do you know: If he doesn't file the paperwork properly, or at all (which is, with him, a distinct possibility... I did most of the research and paper-filing during the process), and he remains in the country illegally, does the Affidavit of Support still stand or is that considered him terminating his residency?

Yes, it still stands.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline
Posted

I'm assuming the divorce was not part of the plan when you got married?

The marriage wasn't for the purpose of helping him immigrate, with plans to go your separate way later when he could have his own life in the USA?

Sorry, it's just that I hear about things like that all the time, so it made me curious if that might be the situation. It was an awfully short marriage.

IR-1/CR-1 Visa

I-130 Sent : 2014-09-06

I-130 NOA1 : 2014-09-08 I-130

I-130 Appr5oved : 2015-02-22

NVC Received : 2015-03-09

Received DS-261 / AOS Bill : 2015-03-20

Pay AOS Bill : 2015-03-28

Send AOS Package : 2015-04-28

Submit DS-261 : 2015-04-25

Receive IV Bill : 2015-04-14

Pay IV Bill : 2015-04-22

Send IV Package : 2015-04-28

Scanned date: 2015-04-28

Check list : 2015-06-07

Check list scanned: 2015-06-10

Sent to Supervisor 49 days after scanned: 2015-07-28

Case Complete 7 days after it went to Supervisor: 2015-08-05

Interview Appointment Letter from NVC: 2015-13-10

Case shows as READY 2015-10-19

Medical done: 2015-16-11

Interview Date: 2015-11-18

APPROVED....GOD IS GREAT!!!!! PRAISE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! :goofy:

Case changed from "Ready" to "AP" on 19th, then to "Issued" on 22nd

Visa was ready for pick up November 3rd in the afternoon

VISA IN HAND! THANK YOU GOD!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

This was essentially answered in posts #3 & #6 of this thread.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

I'm assuming the divorce was not part of the plan when you got married?

The marriage wasn't for the purpose of helping him immigrate, with plans to go your separate way later when he could have his own life in the USA?

Sorry, it's just that I hear about things like that all the time, so it made me curious if that might be the situation. It was an awfully short marriage.

OP's husband is from the UK. And nowhere was this suggested.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted

Do you know: If he doesn't file the paperwork properly, or at all (which is, with him, a distinct possibility... I did most of the research and paper-filing during the process), and he remains in the country illegally, does the Affidavit of Support still stand or is that considered him terminating his residency? I wasn't able to find anything about this (they probably assume people will just continue the legal route, I guess).

I think at this point, just to cover your bases, you should consult your divorce attorney, and if you don't already have one, consult one who also specializes in immigration issues. There are quite a few, as you may imagine (because one often effects the other).

It is in theory possible that he could be granted alimony based on your signing the affidavit of support-- but that's not a US government thing, that's a divorce court thing (and the short marriage makes it pretty unlikely, in my opinion). In terms of the affidavit of support and your responsibilities with the government and benefits etc, no. It's as long as he is physically present, until he is a citizen or leaves permanently. Now, it wouldn't be easy for him to get any sort of benefits if he's here illegally and even if he manages it, it's not likely they'd come after your for reimbursement because as someone mentioned above, it costs the government more money to come after you than they've lost on him. But still. This is officially what the deal is and what we all have signed up for.

It is in place specifically to provide a strong disincentive for petitioners to allow their beneficiaries from coming here for benefits (mostly aimed at those who marry solely for immigration purposes--- you'd in theory be a lot less likely to help out your neighbor's cousin's son immigrate if it means that you're financially on the hook for them for years, regardless of divorce), but also for this type of scenario.

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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