B2 denied is K1 the right way to go?

[reazon 2]

Well that makes me happy, they actually shorten the time.

She lives in LA so I guess California?

We need our good faith evidence when I go to the interview anyway, so timing is going to be right?

Other evidence we got already.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Well that makes me happy, they actually shorten the time.

She lives in LA so I guess California?

We need our good faith evidence when I go to the interview anyway, so timing is going to be right?

Other evidence we got already.

It's not based on where you live anymore, it's more based on case load at the service centers. When it was based on where you lived you'd gone to Texas.

You should still send in the good faith evidence with the I-129F petition, it's called front loading. It's not a guarantee that they will look at any of your good faith evidence at the interview, just go on the things inside what you sent and was (hopefully) accepted by USCIS.

More face time, more evidence then file.

[reazon 2]

Got it, ok more evidence...

We don't do face time, we talk 1-2 hours a day using whats up and msg all the time, and share pictures (well kinda sexy ones, do I add those to the file too? )

Is this good or we need to up our evidence game? Some postcards and plans, emails are on the way.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Got it, ok more evidence...

We don't do face time, we talk 1-2 hours a day using whats up and msg all the time, and share pictures (well kinda sexy ones, do I add those to the file too? )

Is this good or we need to up our evidence game? Some postcards and plans, emails are on the way.

When we talk about face time we're not talking about the app, we're talking about actually meeting and hanging out. Going to visit each other

Give them non sexual pictures of you and your fiance together during visits etc. Pictures of you with her parents or her with your parents is a plus.

[reazon 2]

ah got it, we do have some, not much tho (we were just enjoying our time, we are both not into pictures that much, backfire)

We are going to do more in 2 months, Unfortunately parents pictures are just not possible.

So basically you are saying we would be better off with starting the process after our trip (after new year)?

And u r saying its not going to take "that long".

Im so sorry, Im a rookie who wants to get it done and make if possible 0 mistakes (b2 bomb)

Thank you for your Huge help, I'm so grateful this community exists

[Unidentified 2,930]

ah got it, we do have some, not much tho (we were just enjoying our time, we are both not into pictures that much, backfire)

We are going to do more in 2 months, Unfortunately parents pictures are just not possible.

So basically you are saying we would be better off with starting the process after our trip (after new year)?

And u r saying its not going to take "that long".

Im so sorry, Im a rookie who wants to get it done and make if possible 0 mistakes (b2 bomb)

Thank you for your Huge help, I'm so grateful this community exists

No one can predict how long it will take, processing time can change and you can get stuck in Administrative Processing after the interview.

I would say that it's better to build a strong petition rather than rushing it. I fully understand that it's hard to be apart but unfortunately that is something we're all going through.

Did your girlfriend (I assume you're not engaged yet due to the B2 denial and no proposal?) keep her boarding pass etc from her last visit? Do you have proof she actually visited?

If the B2 denial was recent I would definitely give it more time, let her visit and then file. It shows you're not desperate to come to the US and it will give you two a chance to gather more evidence.

[reazon 2]

Yes we have proof, we were together 2 times, first time when we met and second time 2 months later, she came back.

I went to the b2 a month later (5 days ago) and got rejected, we were planing to get married in the US but yeah, thats not happening, so we had no other choice than agree to do the k1 (or we can consider doing something other like getting married out of the us if that would be better)

Lets say I had no other choice than to propose via phone. And we made plans to spend a week together prior to NY.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Yes we have proof, we were together 2 times, first time when we met and second time 2 months later, she came back.

I went to the b2 a month later (5 days ago) and got rejected, we were planing to get married in the US but yeah, thats not happening, so we had no other choice than agree to do the k1 (or we can consider doing something other like getting married out of the us if that would be better)

Lets say I had no other choice than to propose via phone. And we made plans to spend a week together prior to NY.

So your intent was to go to the US on B2 and get married? That's not what that visa is used for...

When you get your K1 visa you go to the US and then you have 90 days to get married. Why not propose to her when she comes in 2 months? More romantic...

If you're going to get married outside the US then you want to file for CR1 (spousal visa).

It feels like you should take your time researching visa's before you rush into things. From what you just told me it doesn't feel like you know how the process works.

[reazon 2]

It was not, intent was to visit for a couple of months and be with a girl Iam in love. Im am not going to say proposal and manage were out of the option but certainly not intended at that time.

Now we are both stuck, and we are figuring out a best way to make it happen.

Thank you Very much for Your help

[reazon 2]

Also Yes That would be the most romantic thing to do, but our main concern is to figure out the "safest" and the quickest way to be together.

We can do all the romantic things later.

b2 was a mistake yes

So we were thinking about starting the process now and backing it up with more evidence along the way, we have a lot of evidence now, I don't want the b2 denial to block things.

But if the best way is to wait 2 months and than start it after then we are going to do that.

If its "not going to matter that much" then we will start it this week.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Also Yes That would be the most romantic thing to do, but our main concern is to figure out the "safest" and the quickest way to be together.

We can do all the romantic things later.

b2 was a mistake yes

So we were thinking about starting the process now and backing it up with more evidence along the way, we have a lot of evidence now, I don't want the b2 denial to block things.

But if the best way is to wait 2 months and than start it after then we are going to do that.

If its "not going to matter that much" then we will start it this week.

Considering you got denied 5 days ago I'd wait. It looks like visa shopping and it looks like you're obsessed with the idea of coming to the US. Not my opinion, I'm just giving you an idea of what the people processing your case might think. It will make it looks like you're super eager to go to the US and they might even think that your intent with the B2 was marriage which will just further add on to the suspicion of what your real intent is.

[reazon 2]

Got it, Thank You Very Much.

Ok than the best strategy would be to prepare as better as possible, gather papers, and start the process after this next face time 70 days from now :/

And hopefully the entire process will take not that long.

[reazon 2]

Maybe someone else would like to share their opinion on this, quite a bit better explained situation now?

Rejection was actually 9 days ago, not a big difference.

[Pennycat 880]

Wait to propose and to start the K1 process until after she visits. Otherwise, it very well could look like "visa shopping". You need to imagine that they deal with fraud literally every single day, often multiple times per day. You really need to stand apart from them. Unfortunately, lying about her not being your girlfriend could set you up to look like you're trying to beat the system.

Imagine for a moment that she really is just a friend, and her uncle or friend or someone owns a restaurant and they'd be willing to hire you under the table (why? who knows. Maybe because they don't have to pay undocumented workers nearly as much as other people. Maybe the restaurant owners is your mother's aunt's best friend from grade school. Anything is possible). You get denied this visa. Ok, so the easiest and cheapest way is out, how about you ask this friend to go for a fiance visa for you (the next easiest). They could easily suspect something like this. People do this *all the time*. In fact, I believe that the K1 visa is considered to be the one most vulnerable to fraud-- because it is relatively easy to get and the US citizen doesn't have to marry the foreigner if they don't want to. They never even have to see them again. Some people, all they need or want is to get through the border and they can live life below the radar indefinitely. You just don't want to get pegged as one of them. Here is an article by a former consular officer that shows several examples of the way that people try to game the system. http://cis.org/marriagefraud

So, let her visit again, let your relationship bloom into something more serious so at least it looks plausible that you were once friends and over time developed a relationship. "Over time" is not 5 days after the denial of a visa, without being physically together. They very well may ask about this at your interview for the K1. I wouldn't suggest lying again.

[Mike-eeh and Odie 193]

Considering you got denied 5 days ago I'd wait. It looks like visa shopping and it looks like you're obsessed with the idea of coming to the US. Not my opinion, I'm just giving you an idea of what the people processing your case might think. It will make it looks like you're super eager to go to the US and they might even think that your intent with the B2 was marriage which will just further add on to the suspicion of what your real intent is.

This is pretty good advice. After my wife's B-2 was denied, we waited 3 months and planned to see each other in Singapore. After our meeting in Singapore I filed one month later.