Palestinians burned down a Bethlehem Church. Who knew?

[Jacque67 7,328]

I am John Malkovich.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Where and when did I say anything about extremist .

You didn't. I asked what you were implying.

Amazing . I said Islamic people are Muslims. Yet somehow you took offense to that. Does everything offend you.

Do not Muslims adhere to Islam.?

That was as benign and factual as one can get.

Like Males are men or water is wet

No what you said was:

I will not comment much about things in the Islamic community. I have been warned the mods here don't tolerate views contrary to thiers.

So, what do you mean?

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[Expat1 971]

I am John Malkovich.

Michelle Pfeiffer was a real score John. We are unworthy.

[OriZ 3,157]

NEAR Bethlehem and IN Bethlehem are two completely different things. Next lie please?

BTW my wife who is American and Catholic keeps asking me why "we" gave bethlehem back to "them". I keep having to take the "Palestinian side" and explaining it to her. Being catholic she was taught that Jews are the protectors of the holy places. She's seen the difference in how those places are being treated under Jewish responsibility as opposed to the often poor treatment otherwise.

She's also seen first hand how NOT racist for the most part the majority of Israelis are towards other religions. She's been treated with respect and dignity as a Christian. Keep spreading your lies and I'll keep showing that that's all they are.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Indeed, that is a valid question you ask. Somehow I believe it will go unfulfilled.

You didn't. I asked what you were implying.

No what you said was:

I will not comment much about things in the Islamic community. I have been warned the mods here don't tolerate views contrary to thiers.

So, what do you mean?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

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You didn't. I asked what you were implying.

No what you said was:

I will not comment much about things in the Islamic community. I have been warned the mods here don't tolerate views contrary to thiers.

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I meant what I said.

[decocker 7,198]

NEAR Bethlehem and IN Bethlehem are two completely different things. Next lie please?

BTW my wife who is American and Catholic keeps asking me why "we" gave bethlehem back to "them". I keep having to take the "Palestinian side" and explaining it to her. Being catholic she was taught that Jews are the protectors of the holy places. She's seen the difference in how those places are being treated under Jewish responsibility as opposed to the often poor treatment otherwise.

She's also seen first hand how NOT racist for the most part the majority of Israelis are towards other religions. She's been treated with respect and dignity as a Christian. Keep spreading your lies and I'll keep showing that that's all they are.

um, of course she's treated with respect and dignity. she's friggin catholic. how in the world 'israel being respectful to a catholic' is anything but completely expected...

but somehow this proves israel isn't racist to other religions? think we're discussing palestinians.weird logic.

growing up in a baptist church, israel was always portrayed as a victim of the subhuman palestinian terrorists. we had many many a collection plate dedicated to raising funds for israel. i don't remember ever hearing a single word uttered to even suggest that palestinians are even human beings, with the right to exist.. because israel is god's chosen, the rest are as good as dead. we all have stories huh..

[OriZ 3,157]

um, of course she's treated with respect and dignity. she's friggin catholic. how in the world 'israel being respectful to a catholic' is anything but completely expected...

but somehow this proves israel isn't racist to other religions? think we're discussing palestinians.weird logic.

growing up in a baptist church, israel was always portrayed as a victim of the subhuman palestinian terrorists. we had many many a collection plate dedicated to raising funds for israel. i don't remember ever hearing a single word uttered to even suggest that palestinians are even human beings, with the right to exist.. because israel is god's chosen, the rest are as good as dead. we all have stories huh..

Maybe you and I expect it, but if you ask Expat that's not what is happening and that is what I was referring to. He's said time and time again this time around and last round that Christians are treated poorly in Israel yet each and every single time I prove he's full of you know what.

Interesting story though. Not surprising, but not something I tend to agree with...

Edited October 19, 2015 by OriZ

[decocker 7,198]

Maybe you and I expect it, but if you ask Expat that's not what is happening and that is what I was referring to. He's said time and time again this time around and last round that Christians are treated poorly in Israel yet each and every single time I prove he's full of you know what.

Interesting story though. Not surprising, but not something I tend to agree with...

obviously i have no idea what its like to be christian in israel. but thanks to modern technology, i've a good idea what it is to be a palestinian. respect and dignity ain't in the lingo.

[Expat1 971]

She's also seen first hand how NOT racist for the most part the majority of Israelis are towards other religions.

You haven't shown me anything except how easy it is to slap you around the internet.

In related news:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/supreme-court-backs-jews-only-housing-in-jaffa-neighborhood-1.323421 (is Haaretz an Arabic news source? Withdraw the question)

The Supreme Court rejected an appeal on Sunday opposing the leasing of land in Jaffa's Ajami neighborhood for the exclusive use of members of the religious Zionist community.

The appeal was brought by Jaffa residents along with human rights groups, in an effort to challenge a decision by the Israel Lands Administration and the Tel Aviv municipality to lease the land in question to B'Emuna, a company specializing in housing complexes for the religious Zionist community.

The Tel Aviv District Court rejected the same appeal earlier this year.

The petitioners said the decision was discriminatory, because it would exclude anyone other than members of the religious Zionist community from purchasing an apartment in the complex, which is situated in a neighborhood where a majority of the residents are Arab.

You must mean "not racist for the most part unless someone who is not Jewish wants to move to their neighborhood", right? Unbelievable that this is so ingrained in the society that the courts support it.

So the "Jewish only" neighborhoods ringing Bethlehem mean no christians and no Muslims. Small wonder your catholic wife got the hell out of there, I would too.

[Expat1 971]

NEAR Bethlehem and IN Bethlehem are two completely different things.

Not in the context of this discussion they aren't. Yet another source:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/272281

The report, “Shrinking Space: Urban Contraction and Rural Fragmentation in the Bethlehem Governorate” , was produced by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

The report examines how Israeli measures – such as the Barrier, settlements and closures – have impacted Palestinian livelihoods, development and residential expansion in Bethlehem, which comprises approximately 660 kilometres.

“The space available to the Palestinian population in the Bethlehem governorate has been significantly constricted by Israeli measures such as the continued expansion of Israeli settlements and their outposts,” states the report.

Matches what the Christian lady said on the "friendsofbethlehem.com" site. Matches my position. The only things that is not consistent with numerous independent reports and sources, none of which originate in Palestine, are your words. This is way past "pallywood". There is a rising worldwide realization that what is being done over there is wrong.

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[OriZ 3,157]

obviously i have no idea what its like to be christian in israel. but thanks to modern technology, i've a good idea what it is to be a palestinian. respect and dignity ain't in the lingo.

You'd be surprised.

[decocker 7,198]

You'd be surprised.

how so?