Are these documents enough? Will I get an RFE?

[Lands55 0]

Okay - here is a complete list of all the documents and forms we intend on submitting with our petition. We have all the documents but haven't sent anything yet.
Can someone PLEASE look at this thoroughly and let us know if this will be enough or if we will need anything else. We intend on clipping this list to the front of our package.

List of Documents included:

List of completed application forms:

· I-129F COMPLETED FORM

· 1-135 COMPLETED FORM

· G-325A COMPLETED FORM (petitioner)

· G-325A COMPLETED FORM (beneficiary)

· G-1145 COMPLETED FORM (petitioner)

· G-1145 COMPLETED FORM (beneficiary)

· FC-029 COMPLETED FORM (petitioner)

· Letter of intent (beneficiary)

· Letter of intent (petitioner)

· Declaration of meeting in person (beneficiary)

· Declaration of meeting in person (petitioner)

· Cover letter (petitioner)

List of documents supporting visit to South Africa:

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for beneficiary from Seoul, South Korea to Johannesburg, South Africa and return to Seoul, South Korea:
Departure Seoul: 03 January 2015
Departure Johannesburg: 29 January 2015 (Same flight as Petitioner)
Arrival Seoul: 30 January 2015.
(Did not save physical boarding pass – please refer to copies of passport stamps as proof)

· Electronic ticket/ Flight itinerary for Petitioner from Seoul, South Korea to Cape Town, South Africa:
Departure Seoul: 19 January 2015
Departure Johannesburg: 29 January 2015 (Same flight as Beneficiary)
Arrival Seoul: 30 January 2015.
(Did not save physical boarding pass – please refer to passport stamps as proof)

· Photocopies of passport pages showing dated stamps entering South Africa and entering
South Korea on corresponding dates for both beneficiary and petitioner.

· Photocopies of baggage tag for beneficiary from South Africa to South Korea.

· Electronic email receipts for payments and bookings made at Two Oceans Aquarium in
Cape Town for the Penguin Encounter. Encounter date was 22 January 2015.

· Electronic email receipts for payments and bookings made to Animal Ocean for seal snorkeling.
Booking by Petitioner. Payment by Beneficiary.

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for Petitioner and Beneficiary from Cape Town to Bloemfontein, South Africa. Departing and Arriving 26 January 2015.
(Did not save physical boarding passes)

· Signed affidavit by Beneficiary’s Aunt and signed affidavit by Beneficiary’s mother that they met Petitioner in person during this visit.

Overlapping time spent in South Africa: 20 January 2015 – 29 January 2015

List of documents supporting visit to the United States:

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for Beneficiary from Seoul, South Korea to
Honolulu, Hawaii. From Honolulu Hawaii to Detroit, Michigan and return to Seoul, Korea.
Departure Seoul: 25 July 2015
Departure Honolulu: 29 July 2015
Arrival Detroit: 30 July 2015
Departure Detroit: 11 August 2015
Arrival Seoul: 11 August 2015

· Photocopies of boarding passes/baggage tags:
Honolulu – Detroit.
Detroit – JFK, New York.
JFK – Incheon, South Korea.
(Other boarding passes lost. Please check e-ticket for full itinerary and passport stamps as proof)

· Photocopies of passport pages showing dated stamps entering U.S.A and
re-entering South Korea. (Please check dates on stamps)

· Credit Card transaction history from Beneficary's Bank, showing purchases in the USA. (Hawaii and Detroit).

List of other documents:

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Unabridged Birth Certificate from South Africa.
(Original will be provided at interview)

· Photocopy of Police Clearance Certificate from South Africa.
(Original will be provided at interview.)

· Photocopy of “Letter of no Impediment” stating that Beneficiary is free to marry.
(Original with Apostille will be provided at interview)

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Passport.

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Korean Alien registration card proving residency in South Korea.
(Original is required to be handed back to Korean Immigration upon leaving South Korea.)

· Certified copies of Petitioner military orders proving service residency in South Korea during time of meeting.

· Certified copies of Petitioner military travel orders proving overlapping time spent in Hawaii and Detroit, Michigan.

· Certified copies of Petitioner Unabridged Birth Certificate.

· Certified copies of all pages of Petitioner passport showing all stamps.

Supporting evidence:

5 x dated photos of petitioner and beneficiary in South Korea, South Africa and U.SA

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

sounds like you have plenty.

[baron555 934]

Passport sized photos of each.

The check.

[Zedayn 485]

Okay - here is a complete list of all the documents and forms we intend on submitting with our petition. We have all the documents but haven't sent anything yet.

Can someone PLEASE look at this thoroughly and let us know if this will be enough or if we will need anything else. We intend on clipping this list to the front of our package.

List of Documents included:

List of completed application forms:

· I-129F COMPLETED FORM

· 1-135 COMPLETED FORM NOT NEEDED

· G-325A COMPLETED FORM (petitioner)

· G-325A COMPLETED FORM (beneficiary)

· G-1145 COMPLETED FORM (petitioner)

· G-1145 COMPLETED FORM (beneficiary) NOT NEEDED

· FC-029 COMPLETED FORM (petitioner) NOT NEEDED

· Letter of intent (beneficiary)

· Letter of intent (petitioner)

· Declaration of meeting in person (beneficiary) NOT NEEDED

· Declaration of meeting in person (petitioner) NOT NEEDED

· Cover letter (petitioner)

List of documents supporting visit to South Africa:

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for beneficiary from Seoul, South Korea to Johannesburg, South Africa and return to Seoul, South Korea:

Departure Seoul: 03 January 2015

Departure Johannesburg: 29 January 2015 (Same flight as Petitioner)

Arrival Seoul: 30 January 2015.

(Did not save physical boarding pass – please refer to copies of passport stamps as proof) SECONDARY

· Electronic ticket/ Flight itinerary for Petitioner from Seoul, South Korea to Cape Town, South Africa:

Departure Seoul: 19 January 2015

Departure Johannesburg: 29 January 2015 (Same flight as Beneficiary)

Arrival Seoul: 30 January 2015.

(Did not save physical boarding pass – please refer to passport stamps as proof) SECONDARY

· Photocopies of passport pages showing dated stamps entering South Africa and entering

South Korea on corresponding dates for both beneficiary and petitioner. PRIMARY

· Photocopies of baggage tag for beneficiary from South Africa to South Korea. PRIMARY

· Electronic email receipts for payments and bookings made at Two Oceans Aquarium in

Cape Town for the Penguin Encounter. Encounter date was 22 January 2015. SECONDARY

· Electronic email receipts for payments and bookings made to Animal Ocean for seal snorkeling.

Booking by Petitioner. Payment by Beneficiary. SECONDARY

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for Petitioner and Beneficiary from Cape Town to Bloemfontein, South Africa. Departing and Arriving 26 January 2015.

(Did not save physical boarding passes) SECONDARY

· Signed affidavit by Beneficiary’s Aunt and signed affidavit by Beneficiary’s mother that they met Petitioner in person during this visit.

Overlapping time spent in South Africa: 20 January 2015 – 29 January 2015 SECONDARY

List of documents supporting visit to the United States:

· Electronic ticket / Flight itinerary for Beneficiary from Seoul, South Korea to

Honolulu, Hawaii. From Honolulu Hawaii to Detroit, Michigan and return to Seoul, Korea.

Departure Seoul: 25 July 2015

Departure Honolulu: 29 July 2015

Arrival Detroit: 30 July 2015

Departure Detroit: 11 August 2015

Arrival Seoul: 11 August 2015 SECONDARY

· Photocopies of boarding passes/baggage tags:

Honolulu – Detroit.

Detroit – JFK, New York.

JFK – Incheon, South Korea.

(Other boarding passes lost. Please check e-ticket for full itinerary and passport stamps as proof) PRIMARY

· Photocopies of passport pages showing dated stamps entering U.S.A and

re-entering South Korea. (Please check dates on stamps) PRIMARY

· Credit Card transaction history from Beneficary's Bank, showing purchases in the USA. (Hawaii and Detroit). SECONDARY

List of other documents:

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Unabridged Birth Certificate from South Africa. NOT NEEDED

(Original will be provided at interview)

· Photocopy of Police Clearance Certificate from South Africa. NOT NEEDED

(Original will be provided at interview.)

· Photocopy of “Letter of no Impediment” stating that Beneficiary is free to marry. NOT NEEDED

(Original with Apostille will be provided at interview)

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Passport. NOT NEEDED

· Certified copy of Beneficiary’s Korean Alien registration card proving residency in South Korea. NOT NEEDED

(Original is required to be handed back to Korean Immigration upon leaving South Korea.)

· Certified copies of Petitioner military orders proving service residency in South Korea during time of meeting. SECONDARY EVIDENCE OF MEETING

· Certified copies of Petitioner military travel orders proving overlapping time spent in Hawaii and Detroit, Michigan. SECONDARY EVIDENCE OF MEETING

· Certified copies of Petitioner Unabridged Birth Certificate.

· Certified copies of all pages of Petitioner passport showing all stamps.

Supporting evidence:

5 x dated photos of petitioner and beneficiary in South Korea, South Africa and U.SA SECONDARY EVIDENCE OF MEETING

You are including a lot of unnecessary information. I have crossed off the items you do not need in your list. I will further explain why you do not need them.

There is no I-135 form (did you mean I-134?). The I-134 is submitted at the visa interview, not with the petition.

The G-1145 is simply an e-notification form for the petitioner, to notify the petitioner when the petition has been received.

There is no FC-029 form. There used to be... YEARS ago. This form has since become obsolete and is no longer used.

The declaration of meeting in person is not needed from either of you. Yes, you need to explain the circumstances of how you met but this can be written right on the I-129F form: I met my fiancé [name] at [place] on [date]. It is not required to include a separate sheet to explain this, however some people do. In the case you want to include a supplement sheet to explain the circumstances of how you met, you only need ONE and it should be labeled as such at the top: SUPPLEMENT TO I-129F QUESTION 34.A

The beneficiary's birth certificate, police clearance, letter of no impediment, Korean registration card, passport are all NOT required for the I-129F petition. These will be asked for at the embassy interview. The only thing required from the beneficiary at this initial stage are: signed letter of intent to marry, signed G-325A and a 2x2 passport photo. Nothing more, nothing less.

The petitioner only needs to send in a copy of the birth certificate OR copies of all pages of the passport. You don't need both.

About your supporting evidence of meeting in person, I have indicated above which ones are good evidence (PRIMARY), and the rest which support your main evidence (SECONDARY):

E-tickets, e-receipts and itineraries are only secondary evidence. By themselves they do not prove anything. Pictures are also secondary evidence. The affidavit of meeting is only secondary evidence at best. Anyone can write and sign an affidavit of meeting, but it does not mean you have met.

Copies of actual boarding passes, baggage tags, passport stamps, these are all excellent primary evidence of meeting. Receipts that indicate time and location, that may indicate you were in the same place at the same time will also work as good primary evidence. If including passport stamps, you need a copy of the relevant stamp pages and a copy of the bio page.

Also, don't forget your passport photos for each of you for the G-325A.

[captmaximus 11]

Zedayn: As always, top notch advise.

[Lands55 0]

Thank you,

Another question that I have is in regards to the boarding passes and bank statements. Do I have to send the original boarding pass and statement, or can I send photocopies of it? I'm scared that they might get lost in the mail when I send my package to my fiance.

You are including a lot of unnecessary information. I have crossed off the items you do not need in your list. I will further explain why you do not need them.

There is no I-135 form (did you mean I-134?). The I-134 is submitted at the visa interview, not with the petition.

The G-1145 is simply an e-notification form for the petitioner, to notify the petitioner when the petition has been received.

There is no FC-029 form. There used to be... YEARS ago. This form has since become obsolete and is no longer used.

The declaration of meeting in person is not needed from either of you. Yes, you need to explain the circumstances of how you met but this can be written right on the I-129F form: I met my fiancé [name] at [place] on [date]. It is not required to include a separate sheet to explain this, however some people do. In the case you want to include a supplement sheet to explain the circumstances of how you met, you only need ONE and it should be labeled as such at the top: SUPPLEMENT TO I-129F QUESTION 34.A

The beneficiary's birth certificate, police clearance, letter of no impediment, Korean registration card, passport are all NOT required for the I-129F petition. These will be asked for at the embassy interview. The only thing required from the beneficiary at this initial stage are: signed letter of intent to marry, signed G-325A and a 2x2 passport photo. Nothing more, nothing less.

The petitioner only needs to send in a copy of the birth certificate OR copies of all pages of the passport. You don't need both.

About your supporting evidence of meeting in person, I have indicated above which ones are good evidence (PRIMARY), and the rest which support your main evidence (SECONDARY):

E-tickets, e-receipts and itineraries are only secondary evidence. By themselves they do not prove anything. Pictures are also secondary evidence. The affidavit of meeting is only secondary evidence at best. Anyone can write and sign an affidavit of meeting, but it does not mean you have met.

Copies of actual boarding passes, baggage tags, passport stamps, these are all excellent primary evidence of meeting. Receipts that indicate time and location, that may indicate you were in the same place at the same time will also work as good primary evidence. If including passport stamps, you need a copy of the relevant stamp pages and a copy of the bio page.

Also, don't forget your passport photos for each of you for the G-325A.