Private prisons make money from locking up immigrant families -- including young children -- indefinitely.

[Addie_Goodvibes 0]

I really hate communication pieces that use children to manipulate an issue. It's a serious turn off.

The Story is only a tool of propaganda to try to bring sympathy to Illegal immigrants,

the story is misleading & obvious attempt to draw attention away from the real issue of these Illegals, who entered the country ilegally putting their family at risk for whatever happens to them, the responsibioity lies soley with those who commited the act fo illegally entering the USA and what ever consequences result are due

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

[mawilson 2,133]

I didn't know some prisons were privately-owned.

Seems like a security risk to me -- given enough money, the "CEO" of "Bob's Prison LLC"

could "lose" a prisoner or two.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It wouldn't surprise me - the US is more "privatisation-mad" than the UK.

[Heracles 417]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

[Emancipation 2]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

Putting them through what??? They were trying to get to CANADA.. the stop (according to the article linked at the top) was unscheduled, and they never intended to land in the US!!!

[Emancipation 2]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

Putting them through what??? They were trying to get to CANADA.. the stop (according to the article linked at the top) was unscheduled, and they never intended to land in the US!!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

We've already had the stereotypical "its the being misrepresented by the bleeding heart liberals" b/s, yet you're quite willing to politicise this family's story (which the OP article makes reference to) which seems to be more about a case of extenuating circumstances than what should be the general treatment of illegal immigrants.

On the other point, locking people up - even in a nice facility carries with it human rights issues; especially as in this case, there's a possibility that that family (who will now never make Canada) will be returned to Iran and possible ill-treatment.

[peejay 327]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

We've already had the stereotypical "its the being misrepresented by the bleeding heart liberals" b/s, yet you're quite willing to politicise this family's story (which the OP article makes reference to) which seems to be more about a case of extenuating circumstances than what should be the general treatment of illegal immigrants.

On the other point, locking people up - even in a nice facility carries with it human rights issues; especially as in this case, there's a possibility that that family (who will now never make Canada) will be returned to Iran and possible ill-treatment.

I don't buy this for one minute. They were already kicked out of Canada once for making an unsubstantiated claim of asylum that was denied. Then they bought fake documents to try to sneak back into Canada again. Even if they would have made it to a Canadian POE they quite surely would have been detained there for future deportation just as their fake documents were a red flag to US authorities. I'm quite sure the USA would be damned glad to pass them off on Canada to get rid of them, but I'm also quite sure that Canada doesn't want them back either. If Canada wanted them, they would be in Canada now instead of in Hutto. And they wouldn't be in Hutto now if they voluntarily returned to Iran. These people made their own bed and now they have to lay in it.

I find it convenient that these stories don't go into any detail about the basis that they are singled out to be mistreated by the Iranian government (if in fact it happened at all). This story paints a picture that the writers wish to paint by picking and choosing what they want to reveal. I assure you that there is more to this story than is being revealed. Why is that?

I try to keep an open mind, but something smells fishy about this story and I'm quite familiar with the lunatic fringe of Democracy Now.org.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

We've already had the stereotypical "its the being misrepresented by the bleeding heart liberals" b/s, yet you're quite willing to politicise this family's story (which the OP article makes reference to) which seems to be more about a case of extenuating circumstances than what should be the general treatment of illegal immigrants.

On the other point, locking people up - even in a nice facility carries with it human rights issues; especially as in this case, there's a possibility that that family (who will now never make Canada) will be returned to Iran and possible ill-treatment.

I don't buy this for one minute. They were already kicked out of Canada once for making an unsubstantiated claim of asylum that was denied. Then they bought fake documents to try to sneak back into Canada again. Even if they would have made it to a Canadian POE they quite surely would have been detained there for future deportation just as their fake documents were a red flag to US authorities. I'm quite sure the USA would be damned glad to pass them off on Canada to get rid of them, but I'm also quite sure that Canada doesn't want them back either. If Canada wanted them, they would be in Canada now instead of in Hutto. And they wouldn't be in Hutto now if they voluntarily returned to Iran. These people made their own bed and now they have to lay in it.

I find it convenient that these stories don't go into any detail about the basis that they are singled out to be mistreated by the Iranian government (if in fact it happened at all). This story paints a picture that the writers wish to paint by picking and choosing what they want to reveal. I assure you that there is more to this story than is being revealed. Why is that?

I try to keep an open mind, but something smells fishy about this story and I'm quite familiar with the lunatic fringe of Democracy Now.org.

Possibly because its quite difficult (doubly so given the current political issues) to get information out of Iran about political fugitives and the like.

[Boiler 45,525]

Stories like this are more tear jerking propoganda drivel by ultra Left liberals that contend that the United Stasi of America has absolutely no right to enforce immigration laws. Pure baloney.

I don't know about that. I think there is a (universal) human rights angle to this that goes over and above the illegal immigration debate.

So what do people expect us to do with them?

The parents are responsible for putting their children through this.

We've already had the stereotypical "its the being misrepresented by the bleeding heart liberals" b/s, yet you're quite willing to politicise this family's story (which the OP article makes reference to) which seems to be more about a case of extenuating circumstances than what should be the general treatment of illegal immigrants.

On the other point, locking people up - even in a nice facility carries with it human rights issues; especially as in this case, there's a possibility that that family (who will now never make Canada) will be returned to Iran and possible ill-treatment.

I don't buy this for one minute. They were already kicked out of Canada once for making an unsubstantiated claim of asylum that was denied. Then they bought fake documents to try to sneak back into Canada again. Even if they would have made it to a Canadian POE they quite surely would have been detained there for future deportation just as their fake documents were a red flag to US authorities. I'm quite sure the USA would be damned glad to pass them off on Canada to get rid of them, but I'm also quite sure that Canada doesn't want them back either. If Canada wanted them, they would be in Canada now instead of in Hutto. And they wouldn't be in Hutto now if they voluntarily returned to Iran. These people made their own bed and now they have to lay in it.

I find it convenient that these stories don't go into any detail about the basis that they are singled out to be mistreated by the Iranian government (if in fact it happened at all). This story paints a picture that the writers wish to paint by picking and choosing what they want to reveal. I assure you that there is more to this story than is being revealed. Why is that?

I try to keep an open mind, but something smells fishy about this story and I'm quite familiar with the lunatic fringe of Democracy Now.org.

Possibly because its quite difficult (doubly so given the current political issues) to get information out of Iran about political fugitives and the like.

They came in from Turkey, not Iran.

They could have claimed assylum there.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As for claiming asylum in Turkey - depends what their foreign relations are like with Iran as it pertains to extraditions and the like. Not saying that's the case here - but a quick google search revealed this interview about the potential extradition of Iranian "dissidents" from Turkey.

For my part at least, unless there is a substantive reason to doubt the family's story - I'd be inclined to take them at their word. Personally speaking.

As he says there's probably more to the story of that particular family than is described in the article.

[Emancipation 2]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/21/iran-texas.html

Apparently Canada did find room for this family.

[Boiler 45,525]

As for claiming asylum in Turkey - depends what their foreign relations are like with Iran as it pertains to extraditions and the like. Not saying that's the case here - but a quick google search revealed this interview about the potential extradition of Iranian "dissidents" from Turkey.

For my part at least, unless there is a substantive reason to doubt the family's story - I'd be inclined to take them at their word. Personally speaking.

As he says there's probably more to the story of that particular family than is described in the article.

Forget Turkey.

They flew in from Guyana.

Quite how they got there is unclear.

So quite a flee....

Taking the piss, Candians should be ashamed of themselves.

[Emancipation 2]

As for claiming asylum in Turkey - depends what their foreign relations are like with Iran as it pertains to extraditions and the like. Not saying that's the case here - but a quick google search revealed this interview about the potential extradition of Iranian "dissidents" from Turkey.

For my part at least, unless there is a substantive reason to doubt the family's story - I'd be inclined to take them at their word. Personally speaking.

As he says there's probably more to the story of that particular family than is described in the article.

Forget Turkey.

They flew in from Guyana.

Quite how they got there is unclear.

So quite a flee....

Taking the piss, Candians should be ashamed of themselves.

No shame here.. nope nope