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kamw   93

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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Can this really happen? Revoked citizenship? I thought once you get citizenship, there's no way back.

Thank you everyone for the insights. We'll start preparing.

If they keep it was obtained fraudulently they can revoke it.

09/27/14 Married :content:

12/03/14 Became a US citizen :star:

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02/25/15 130 Petition sent

02/27/15 NOA1 date :clock:

07/23/15 NOA2 date

08/03/15 Mailed to NVC

08/07/15 NVC Received

08/19/15 Case number assigned, submitted DS-261

08/20/15 Paid AOS bill

08/25/15 Received welcome letter

08/25/15 Sent AOS & IV package

08/31/15 DS-261 reviewed

08/31/15 AOS & IV scan date confirmed by Sup.

09/02/15 Received IV bill by email

09/03/15 Paid IV bill

09/09/15 Submitted DS-260

09/17/15 Case Completed @ NVC

10/06/15 Expedite Request sent to NVC

11/12/15 Contacted Sen. Marco Rubio for assistance with expedite by email

11/19/15 Expedite Approved

12/9/15 Medical

12/11/15 Interview (Approved)

12/14/15 CEAC Status changed to AP

12/15/15 CEAC Status Changed to Issued

12/18/15 Picked up Passport & booked hubby's ticket.

12/31/15 Ring in the New Years together after 4 years!!!! :dancing:

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madtownguy Community Regular

madtownguy   164

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Relationships are difficult anything is possible. My first wife and I were legally married and going through AOS when I met my current wife. After divorce finalized I filed k1 for my wife and everything went smoothly. I think it would be difficult to go back to my ex or me and say we weren't really married because I was with her because of her kids, which a lot of marriages stay together just because of children. Now if you're filing papers saying you're living in one place with someone but are actually living somewhere else that's a little easier to prove all situations are going to be a little different. You may want to check with a lawyer when it isn't a common situation.

san diego Proficient

san diego   407

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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Can this really happen? Revoked citizenship? I thought once you get citizenship, there's no way back.

Thank you everyone for the insights. We'll start preparing.

If they prove that Citizenship was obtained fraudulently, yes, it will happen.

In this case you will not be under scrutiny. She will.

Edited by san diego
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mayfield   23

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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As I said before the best you can do is gather as much evidence that your marriage is true and real and also for her to show that her former marriage was true and also have information ready about why they divorced, anything can be asked its their job to make sure that there is no cheating of the system. So just prepare to prove that your not cheating and its all truth, you never know you might get there and it not be raised. Always best to 'Be Prepared for the unexpected'

12/24/2014.................forms i130, i485, i765, i131 mailed via usps12/26/2014.................forms delivered01/05/2015.................NOA1 for all forms wth 26th dec as priority date01/24/2015.................bio apt received for 02/0601/26/2015................. walk in bio failed, supervisor said that the office is way to busy to come back closer to my apt date02/06/2015................. completed biometrics02/11/2015.................Aos status update 'case is ready to be scheduled for an interview'<p>02/24/2015................EAD updated to 'card in production' AP updated to case approved

09/17/2015....... interview scheduled for OCT 21st.

10/21/2015....... attended interview, approved on the spot, also received updates on case status.

10/23/2015...... green card mailed

Usagi_tsukino Collaborator

Usagi_tsukino   90

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Timeline
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Me (beneficiary) and my husband (US citizen) started going out when he was still married to his ex-wife, she also got a green card and her citizenship through that marriage. They were together for 5 years and separated soon after he met me (we didn't start going out right after we met though). There were no questions at the interview about that, well they asked each of us if any of us was married before but i heard they ask everyone that, he said he was and thats it. But we still didn't get an approvement notice of any kind and its been over 2 month after our interview (i-130 and i-485 concurrent).

By the way, they didn't finalize their divorce right away, in fact me and him got married only 3 month after their divorce was final, so all of our dating, photos of which we brought to the interview (we lived together and we did a lot of travel in fact), occurs at the time he was still married to another women.

So its kind of similar except that my husband is us citizen by birth, but still.... I wasn't worried about it since i thought that if the marriage is legitimate there would be no problem and we will get approved right away, but now I kind of am because its taking them a while to approve our case :( I don't see any other reason that could be holding it, especially because i keep checking the status online and even i-130, his petition, isn't approved yet! Usually it gets approved fast and people are waiting on i-485. People say its normal to wait this long, but i believe they mean to wait for i-485, not i-130. So i don't know. I will let you know what happens. If they won't be satisfied with anything ill be soo mad!

Edited by banana_princess

Citizenship:

09/15/2020 - Filed online. Estimated completion given - July 2021 (10 months).

January 2021 - biometric reuse letter

April 2021 - interview scheduled

24/05/2021 - Interview (approved)

 

Passport:

July 23 - applied, expedited service

August 11 - received the passport

Aug. 16 (approximately) - received passport card

August 20 - received citizenship certificate back

 

Story of my almost 3 years long pending AOS - click below for details

Spoiler

2015

  • March 10 2015 - USCIS received i-130/i-485
  • March 30 2015 - got a RFE saying that my husband cannot be my sponsor because of his income, which is not true, but we didn't know what to do so we hired a lawyer.
  • August 10 2015 - interview (went great, by the way). Were told to wait 120 days.
  • December 10 2015, April 10 2016, May 10 2016 - sent SR, responses: "your case is pending"

2016

  • May 25 2016 - Went to Info Pass, the case is taken to the supervisor, were told we will get something in 30 days (of course, after 30 days we got nothing....).
  • June 27 2016 - Went to Info Pass again, they told us to wait for 2 more weeks and if we still get nothing send a service request letter by mail. Did it on the same day.
  • June 27 2016 - After Infopass, went to senator Durbin office in Chicago.
  • July 8 2016 - Went to Mike Quigley office.
  • July 8 2016 - Received useless response from Durbin. All they know is that the case is pending and it's in Chicago, can't do anything else.
  • July 12 2016: Infopass, spoke to the supervisor, promises promises.... more wait.
  • July 17 2016: Filed Ombudsman.
  • July 26 2016: Another info pass, same story. We talked to 3 supervisors already! I don't get it!
  • July 29 2016: Sent another useless SR just because.
  • Aug 9 2016: Talked to the officer we had interview with! She was supposed to mail us RFE a year ago but she forgot (!!!) ! They admitted it. Gave us RFE.
  • October 11 2016: Response to RFE is received by uscis (the RFE was ridiculous. Basically all same papers we ALREADY GAVE HER at the interview: bank statements, lease, etc).
  • October 20 2016: Infopass, useless, did not have time to wait for the supervisor.
  • November 9 2016: Infopass, talked to the supervisor, he said there are no problems with our case and he will make sure the officer will make a decision within a few days. Gave us his email and phone number, told us to contact him directly instead of going to info pass.
  • November 15 2016: emailed the supervisor, since a few days have passed and still no decision. No response.
  • November 17 2016: called the supervisor, no answer.
  • November 17 2016: sent Service Request about i-130 (Lol, like that will help..)
  • November 19 2016: sent a letter to the director of Chicago Field Office.
  • November 22 2016: sent Service Request about i-485 (Lol[2])
  • November 23 2016: talked to the supervisor again to learn that..........my medical and fingerprints have expired and i need to wait for a notice to do it all again.
  • November 25 2016: The response from the Field Office Director Martha Medina-Maltes: your case is pending and every effort is being made blah blah blah
  • December 5 2016: Received a response to i-485 SR that my case is "pending supervisor review"... absolutely random since the supervisor said i'll need redo my medical and fingerprints again.
  • December 19 2016: Went to USCIS, the officer came out and told me we need to come back for a 2nd interview!!! I'm shocked because our marriage is 100% real and i can't believe they have doubts about it! But i'm glad that it's at least something.
  • December 27: 2nd interview (Strokes). Reason: i-130 petition. We did fine but the officer said we will receive a NOID! Our lawyer said it must be something else, not our answers... but what?!

2017

  • Jan 23 - infopass, asked if anything was mailed regarding i-130. Were told that nothing was.
  • Jan 27 - sent a service request regarding I-130.
  • March 1 2017 - went to uscis (no info pass), our officer's supervisor finally gave us the noid full of nitpicking and lies, that shows that they do not pay attention to anything. 
  • March 10 2017 - 2 years AOS anniversary...wow. 
  • March 31 - The response to the noid is received by uscis!
  • June 1st - went to the office, the supervisor promised we will get the decision in 4-6 weeks.
  • July 19 - 7 weeks passed, went back to uscis. The supervisor said he will give the case to the officer tomorrow, we asked when we will get the decision, he said he doesn't know. 
  • September 6: My husband talked to the supervisor again, he said he gave the case to the other officer, and the case is huge so the officer has a lot to do, and we will get a decision in 2 weeks. 
  • September 25: Went back since no decision was received (as expected). The supervisor said the same thing: we will get a decision in 2 weeks
  • September 29: USCIS asked for medical! Eureka! First time in 2 and a half years they sent something by themselves! :wacko: i-130 still not approved.
  • October 2: Notice that i-130 is approved (notice date September 26, still no online update). Also went to get medical done (should be ready by the end of the week)
  • October 3:  biometrics
  • October 10: medical delivered to uscis! The waiting games begins again :wacko:
  • December 11: 2 months after medical was delivered talked to the supervisor again, he said the decision will be made BY tomorrow and we will find out from the website on Wednesday. 
  • December 14: Called uscis, tier 2 officer told me that the case is approved.
  • December 18: Received Approval notice (Dated December 12)

 

Long story short:
After the initial interview we received:

1) a RFE asking for the same papers again,

2) then were asked to come to the 2nd interview that went fine of course, 

3) then a NOID that was full of mistakes.

All that was given to us in person, only when we made our way straight to our officer. And still waiting. Lots of fun (not).

4) 6 months after receiving our response to the noid i-130 is approved. 2 years 6 months and 16 days of waiting for i-130. Supposed to take 5 months. No words.

5) After 2 years 9 months and 2 days (or 1008 days) of waiting i-485 is approved.

 

 

 

 

 

Brian and Talitha Contributor

Brian and Talitha   2

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Brazil
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hey, first of all, if the timeline is exactly how you presented, I urge your wife to talk to a lawyer (if she was separated from her first husband before filling for citizenship (even f he agreed to that) they might not be aware of it, but it could still be charged as fraud if they presented any documentation saying they were living together and were not - It might be fixable if yall come out to the immigration about the mistake before they find out. BUT hopefully you are wrong and she got married before 2011 what would make possible for her to have the citizenship before being separate from her husband.... the main thing is the marriage being bona fide still when she applied for citizenship.
My husband was married when we met, I also wonder how much the immigration will want to know about our "affair"..(he is a us born citizen) but is hard to explain the timeline of our relationship since it was not a"let's away together thing" but a "we have to stop seeing each other"... we had a baby while he was still married, we broke up for good and got back together after our son turn two... I have no idea how to explain all that to immigration... but whatever, is life, I'm not proud of it, but that's how it is....

Usagi_tsukino Collaborator

Usagi_tsukino   90

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Timeline
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hey, first of all, if the timeline is exactly how you presented, I urge your wife to talk to a lawyer (if she was separated from her first husband before filling for citizenship (even f he agreed to that) they might not be aware of it, but it could still be charged as fraud if they presented any documentation saying they were living together and were not - It might be fixable if yall come out to the immigration about the mistake before they find out. BUT hopefully you are wrong and she got married before 2011 what would make possible for her to have the citizenship before being separate from her husband.... the main thing is the marriage being bona fide still when she applied for citizenship.

My husband was married when we met, I also wonder how much the immigration will want to know about our "affair"..(he is a us born citizen) but is hard to explain the timeline of our relationship since it was not a"let's away together thing" but a "we have to stop seeing each other"... we had a baby while he was still married, we broke up for good and got back together after our son turn two... I have no idea how to explain all that to immigration... but whatever, is life, I'm not proud of it, but that's how it is....

Did your husband petition for his ex-wife also?

Citizenship:

09/15/2020 - Filed online. Estimated completion given - July 2021 (10 months).

January 2021 - biometric reuse letter

April 2021 - interview scheduled

24/05/2021 - Interview (approved)

 

Passport:

July 23 - applied, expedited service

August 11 - received the passport

Aug. 16 (approximately) - received passport card

August 20 - received citizenship certificate back

 

Story of my almost 3 years long pending AOS - click below for details

Spoiler

2015

  • March 10 2015 - USCIS received i-130/i-485
  • March 30 2015 - got a RFE saying that my husband cannot be my sponsor because of his income, which is not true, but we didn't know what to do so we hired a lawyer.
  • August 10 2015 - interview (went great, by the way). Were told to wait 120 days.
  • December 10 2015, April 10 2016, May 10 2016 - sent SR, responses: "your case is pending"

2016

  • May 25 2016 - Went to Info Pass, the case is taken to the supervisor, were told we will get something in 30 days (of course, after 30 days we got nothing....).
  • June 27 2016 - Went to Info Pass again, they told us to wait for 2 more weeks and if we still get nothing send a service request letter by mail. Did it on the same day.
  • June 27 2016 - After Infopass, went to senator Durbin office in Chicago.
  • July 8 2016 - Went to Mike Quigley office.
  • July 8 2016 - Received useless response from Durbin. All they know is that the case is pending and it's in Chicago, can't do anything else.
  • July 12 2016: Infopass, spoke to the supervisor, promises promises.... more wait.
  • July 17 2016: Filed Ombudsman.
  • July 26 2016: Another info pass, same story. We talked to 3 supervisors already! I don't get it!
  • July 29 2016: Sent another useless SR just because.
  • Aug 9 2016: Talked to the officer we had interview with! She was supposed to mail us RFE a year ago but she forgot (!!!) ! They admitted it. Gave us RFE.
  • October 11 2016: Response to RFE is received by uscis (the RFE was ridiculous. Basically all same papers we ALREADY GAVE HER at the interview: bank statements, lease, etc).
  • October 20 2016: Infopass, useless, did not have time to wait for the supervisor.
  • November 9 2016: Infopass, talked to the supervisor, he said there are no problems with our case and he will make sure the officer will make a decision within a few days. Gave us his email and phone number, told us to contact him directly instead of going to info pass.
  • November 15 2016: emailed the supervisor, since a few days have passed and still no decision. No response.
  • November 17 2016: called the supervisor, no answer.
  • November 17 2016: sent Service Request about i-130 (Lol, like that will help..)
  • November 19 2016: sent a letter to the director of Chicago Field Office.
  • November 22 2016: sent Service Request about i-485 (Lol[2])
  • November 23 2016: talked to the supervisor again to learn that..........my medical and fingerprints have expired and i need to wait for a notice to do it all again.
  • November 25 2016: The response from the Field Office Director Martha Medina-Maltes: your case is pending and every effort is being made blah blah blah
  • December 5 2016: Received a response to i-485 SR that my case is "pending supervisor review"... absolutely random since the supervisor said i'll need redo my medical and fingerprints again.
  • December 19 2016: Went to USCIS, the officer came out and told me we need to come back for a 2nd interview!!! I'm shocked because our marriage is 100% real and i can't believe they have doubts about it! But i'm glad that it's at least something.
  • December 27: 2nd interview (Strokes). Reason: i-130 petition. We did fine but the officer said we will receive a NOID! Our lawyer said it must be something else, not our answers... but what?!

2017

  • Jan 23 - infopass, asked if anything was mailed regarding i-130. Were told that nothing was.
  • Jan 27 - sent a service request regarding I-130.
  • March 1 2017 - went to uscis (no info pass), our officer's supervisor finally gave us the noid full of nitpicking and lies, that shows that they do not pay attention to anything. 
  • March 10 2017 - 2 years AOS anniversary...wow. 
  • March 31 - The response to the noid is received by uscis!
  • June 1st - went to the office, the supervisor promised we will get the decision in 4-6 weeks.
  • July 19 - 7 weeks passed, went back to uscis. The supervisor said he will give the case to the officer tomorrow, we asked when we will get the decision, he said he doesn't know. 
  • September 6: My husband talked to the supervisor again, he said he gave the case to the other officer, and the case is huge so the officer has a lot to do, and we will get a decision in 2 weeks. 
  • September 25: Went back since no decision was received (as expected). The supervisor said the same thing: we will get a decision in 2 weeks
  • September 29: USCIS asked for medical! Eureka! First time in 2 and a half years they sent something by themselves! :wacko: i-130 still not approved.
  • October 2: Notice that i-130 is approved (notice date September 26, still no online update). Also went to get medical done (should be ready by the end of the week)
  • October 3:  biometrics
  • October 10: medical delivered to uscis! The waiting games begins again :wacko:
  • December 11: 2 months after medical was delivered talked to the supervisor again, he said the decision will be made BY tomorrow and we will find out from the website on Wednesday. 
  • December 14: Called uscis, tier 2 officer told me that the case is approved.
  • December 18: Received Approval notice (Dated December 12)

 

Long story short:
After the initial interview we received:

1) a RFE asking for the same papers again,

2) then were asked to come to the 2nd interview that went fine of course, 

3) then a NOID that was full of mistakes.

All that was given to us in person, only when we made our way straight to our officer. And still waiting. Lots of fun (not).

4) 6 months after receiving our response to the noid i-130 is approved. 2 years 6 months and 16 days of waiting for i-130. Supposed to take 5 months. No words.

5) After 2 years 9 months and 2 days (or 1008 days) of waiting i-485 is approved.

 

 

 

 

 

Brian and Talitha Contributor

Brian and Talitha   2

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Brazil
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Posted

Did your husband petition for his ex-wife also?

No, she was American too and they were married for 14 years, my biggest fear is that they would question my morality since we had our child together before his divorce, also, our love story does not follow a timeline since w were friends, lovers, friends again, I have been very in love with him since our first kiss, but he didn't feel our relationship as a "romantic" one till he ask me to marry him, so, is kind of hard to tell an officer all we have been through, why we didn't get together when we had the baby, and all that.... if they asked us when did you fall in love my answer would be like 4 years before him...

san diego Proficient

san diego   407

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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The issue here is not proving current relationship. It is apparent that she was not in a relationship with her husband when was gaving citizenship interview, v mmiting immigration fraud. If discovered, citizenship will be revoked. I would apply and hope for the best. There is nothing you can do know. However, your wife needs to be aware that by applying for you she exposes herself.

 
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