redo it or just use old info on i864?

[nathanp 6]

as the title says.i received a checklist from the nvc.not sure how to fill out the info they are asking for as all the examples i can find leave it blank and i dont exactly know what to put in it.my dad is also a joint sponsor as the time i filled this out i wasnt making enough money but just got a new job and will start october 19 and meet above the poverty guidelines..

do i need to resubmit my info or just have my dads form with it?i ask because in the checklist it ask for the form from him.yet i sent it with the package..here is what my checklist says.i honestly dont remember what form he did.im currently in a move and cant look for the stuff i used.thank you all in advance.

Form I-864, Affidavit of Support, & Financial Evidence Checklist)

Please review the instructions below then refer to the final page of this checklist for mailing

instructions.

[x] I-864, Affidavit of Support Checklist

[x] The Affidavit of Support is an important legal contract between you and the U.S. government. During our review,

we identified one or more sections that were either incomplete or contained incorrect information. Please review the

additional instructions below then complete and submit a new Affidavit of Support. You can download the I-864 form and

instructions at http://www.uscis.gov/i-864.

[x]

[x]

[x]

[x] In Part 3, Information on the Immigrant(s) You are sponsoring, please correct the following...

[x] Items 2 through 6.f. This case's visa category does not allow accompanying family members; therefore, you cannot

list family members in this section.

[x] Item 7. The total number of immigrants listed in Item 7 must equal the number of immigrants listed in Part 3, Items

1 through 6.f. In addition, you must also verify that the total number of immigrants listed in Item 7 matches the number you

entered in Part 5 Item1.

[x]

[x]

[x] In Part 5. Sponsor's Household Size, please correct the following...

[x] Item 1. The number of sponsored persons must match the number listed in Part 3, Item 7.

[x] Item 8. The household size must equal the sum of items 1 through 7.

Form I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member & Financial

Evidence Checklist

Please review the instructions below then refer to the final page of this checklist for

mailing instructions.

[ ] Hidden line.

[x] I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member, Checklist

[x] Please complete and submit Form I-864A (Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member). You can

download the form and instructions at uscis.gov/I-864a.

[nathanp 6]

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i got a check list that i dont understand and got no help on.so i decided to post a new post and ask another question.i dont understand how to fill out section 3 and 5..but i will be starting a new job in a week or so that will meet the requirements needed to sponsor my wife from the philippines to the states.should i use the old info with my dad as a joint sponsor or redo it all and send it?i cant find the info needed on filling out what they request in the checklist.and dont know if i should redo it all with my new job and just have a letter written or something stating what im making at work?

[j&ana 363]

Did you send in copies of your dad w-2,s?

If your dad file his taxes married jointly the w2,s are require with transcripts or copies of tax form

While current income is most important. I do not think you will have enough prove for your incone Since your case is already at the NVC. You probably should still use your dad as joint sponsor

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[j&ana 363]

You stated you had trouble filing out section 3 and section 5. What exact questions are you having trouble with

[nathanp 6]

You stated you had trouble filing out section 3 and section 5. What exact questions are you having trouble with

the following is the checklist i got back.but i think i realized what i did.in part 3 section 5 (family section 5) i filled in my info thinking it was a different part of the form.my dad is currently a joint sponsor and i got a checklist for him to fill out i864a and i will have him do that if needed as i just got a new job that meets the requirements needed financially.but may have him do it anyways since i will start my new job in a week.i put "1" in section 7 in part 3. part 5 i added 1 for who im sponsoring and 1 for myself and got 2.i thought that is correct.i can take screen shots if needed.oh i just moved.actually going to move into my new apartment today..would i be able to just do a change of address on the form i need to fill out now or just email them like i have read elsewhere and leave my address the same?if not sure thats fine ill email and have it done that way so i have a record of the request.

[x] I-864, Affidavit of Support Checklist

[x] The Affidavit of Support is an important legal contract between you and the U.S. government. During our review,

we identified one or more sections that were either incomplete or contained incorrect information. Please review the

additional instructions below then complete and submit a new Affidavit of Support. You can download the I-864 form and

instructions at http://www.uscis.gov/i-864.

[x]

[x]

[x]

[x] In Part 3, Information on the Immigrant(s) You are sponsoring, please correct the following...

[x] Items 2 through 6.f. This case's visa category does not allow accompanying family members; therefore, you cannot

list family members in this section.

[x] Item 7. The total number of immigrants listed in Item 7 must equal the number of immigrants listed in Part 3, Items

1 through 6.f. In addition, you must also verify that the total number of immigrants listed in Item 7 matches the number you

entered in Part 5 Item1.

[x]

[x]

[x] In Part 5. Sponsor's Household Size, please correct the following...

[x] Item 1. The number of sponsored persons must match the number listed in

[x] Item 8. The household size must equal the sum of items 1 through 7.

Form I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member & Financial

Evidence Checklist

Please review the instructions below then refer to the final page of this checklist for

mailing instructions.

[ ] Hidden line.

[x] I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member, Checklist

[x] Please complete and submit Form I-864A (Contract Betwe

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[nathanp 6]

Did you send in copies of your dad w-2,s?

If your dad file his taxes married jointly the w2,s are require with transcripts or copies of tax form

While current income is most important. I do not think you will have enough prove for your incone Since your case is already at the NVC. You probably should still use your dad as joint sponsor

yes, he just didnt send any paycheck stubs.i thought i should just use current info and correct what they requested thank you

[j&ana 363]

On your I-864 form. The answer for intending immigrant will be one.

House hold size is the number of people you are finical responsible for not the number of people you are living with. You do not count anyone twice

On your form you will put one for yourself and one for your spouse and the total will be two

If your dad is a joint sponsor he will fill out a I-864 same as you. I do not know why you got a checklist for the I-864a that form is use if another person in your household size is using their income to help meet the income requirement

again household size is the number of people you are finical responsible for not the number of people living in household

On your Dad I-864 he will the answer for intending immigrant will be one

on the household size he will include himself your spouse your mom and or any other people he is responsible for

He will not include you

I hope this helps a little

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On your I-864 form. The answer for intending immigrant will be one.

House hold size is the number of people you are finical responsible for not the number of people you are living with. You do not count anyone twice

On your form you will put one for yourself and one for your spouse and the total will be two

If your dad is a joint sponsor he will fill out a I-864 same as you. I do not know why you got a checklist for the I-864a that form is use if another person in your household size is using their income to help meet the income requirement

again household size is the number of people you are finical responsible for not the number of people living in household

On your Dad I-864 he will the answer for intending immigrant will be one

on the household size he will include himself your spouse your mom and or any other people he is responsible for

He will not include you

I hope this helps a little

The above, is correct but, just to be clear, as to the "count" your spouse will still be counted as the intending immigrant.

Additionally, if your father is married and files joint tax return with his spouse, his spouse will need to provide an I-864a, whether she has any income or not. This significantly complicates what you have to learn, and how much attention you must pay to who signs where on the I-864a, as they both do.

If I were in your shoes, even though it may cost you a month or so, I think I would wait until I had a pay stub of my own to send in and just respond with a new I-864 for yourself, showing qualifying income. Have your spouse take an even more current pay stub to the interview as well. This avoids your parents obligating themselves potentially for life.

You see, the worst case scenario example (This is the "nice" one but there are less complimentary ones with the same result.) is that soon after your spouse arrives, the two of you are in a car accident that is your fault. You are killed and he is permanently disabled, become "public charge" or the responsibility, for life for your parents to take care of. If he never becomes a US Citizen, they are obligated until they die, or your spouse does.

[j&ana 363]

For house hold size the intending immigrant will only be counted once. The newer form is a little different . So for the (0p) I-864 form part 5 question 1 the box will be 1. For part 5 question 2 the box will be 1. For part 5 questions 3 will be 0 since the intending immigrant can not be counted twice.part 5 question 4 and 5 will be 0 unless the person has dependents. PART 5 question 6 will be 0

unless another immigrant was sponsor before and is now LPR

PART 5 question 7 optional will be O unless you are combining your income which is not the same as a joint sponsor.

Question 8 add total which should be two unless any question 3 to 7 applies

[j&ana 363]

If your Dad is a joint sponsor then he will also fill a I-864 form also . If he file married jointly with your mom and they are using their income then your mom will fill out part 1 1o 4 and part 6 of the I864a form. Your Dad will fill out part 5

If your Dad is only using his income then a I864a form will not be needed but the I-864 forms tax returns transcripts his w-2 to determine his gross individual income on tax returns. Also you can send copies of his paycheck stubs or employment letter

[pushbrk 12,883]

If your Dad is a joint sponsor then he will also fill a I-864 form also . If he file married jointly with your mom and they are using their income then your mom will fill out part 1 1o 4 and part 6 of the I864a form. Your Dad will fill out part 5

If your Dad is only using his income then a I864a form will not be needed but the I-864 forms tax returns transcripts his w-2 to determine his gross individual income on tax returns. Also you can send copies of his paycheck stubs or employment letter

Correct except the part about "only using HIS income". If married and filing jointly, the spouse provides the I-864a, whether they even HAVE any income or not. Theoretically, this should not be necessary if the one spouse has enough personal income to qualify, but that theory does not work in actual practice.