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I wasn't sure where to ask this but to make a long story short..I had gotten engaged to a girl overseas. Got her the visa, she came here, we got married within 90 days and she ended up running away. I ended up getting that marriage annulled and my question is if I were to do this again with another girl, will I encounter any difficulties? If I were to get engaged overseas and attempt to get another visa

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Yes, it might be a problem.

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Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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A lot depends on the timeline. Yes, bringing two ladies over can be a red flag, especially if it happens quickly. The best way to mitigate that red flag is to spend lots of time together.

Did the first wife every get a greencard?

When did you annul her, when did you meet the new girl?

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Timeline

the first girl basically scammed me to get here i found out after. She came jan 2014, and a little over a month after coming to the states, march 2014, i came home and she was missing. I never started the green card process so as far as i know, she didnt get a green card. the annulment was finalized sept 2014 since there was a 90 day waiting period for her to respond due to me not knowing where she is.

and there's no new girl..but it was brought up within my family so i was just trying to get an understanding before anything happens.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Two noncontributory posts have been removed. Treat the OP's situation with respect.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I wasn't sure where to ask this but to make a long story short..I had gotten engaged to a girl overseas. Got her the visa, she came here, we got married within 90 days and she ended up running away. I ended up getting that marriage annulled and my question is if I were to do this again with another girl, will I encounter any difficulties? If I were to get engaged overseas and attempt to get another visa

Thank you!

If you are trying for another K-1, you will get denied until 2 years has passed from your first petition.

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If you are trying for another K-1, you will get denied until 2 years has passed from your first petition.

This is not true.

K-1 Journey: 309 days from received to POE (TSC)

 

 

[september 11, 2014] - I-129F received by USCIS

[september 15, 2014] - NOA1
[May 27, 2015] - NOA2
[July 9, 2015] - I N T E R V I E W! (APPROVED!)
[July 13, 2015] - Issued
[July 14, 2015] - Visa in hand
[July 16, 2015] - POE JFK

AOS Journey: 169 days from received to GC in hand (NSC)

Spoiler

[July 17, 2015] - Successfully applied for SSN

[July 18, 2015] - Sent out AOS package

[July 21, 2015] - Received

[July 24, 2015] - NOA1 (3x)

[August 18, 2015] - Biometrics

[september 19, 2015] - EAD/AP approval (63 days)

[september 24, 2015] - EAD/AP Received

[January 6, 2016] - Green Card approved without interview(166 days)

[January 12, 2016] - Received Green Card

ROC journey starts: October 2017

 

 

 

ROC Journey: 419 days (VSC)

[October 30, 2017] - Sent package

[November 3, 2017] - NOA1

[November 18, 2017] - Biometrics letter received

[December 5, 2017] - Biometrics

[December 18, 2018] - Card is being produced (no interview)

[December 22, 2018] - Received Green Card

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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I am no expert, but there is another post on the forum (tried to find it to link unsuccessfully) where this was a question and it was determined that it may look suspicious at the Embassy but there should be no issue at USCIS as long as you have lots of evidence to prove the new relationship is bonafide.

I also know from reading the forums pretty heavily that there are quite a few regular posters (hopefully one can post here as well) who have filed more than once and they were able to do so without issue. If I remember correctly there is a waiver required if it is 2 or more visa requests. (but I could be slightly off on the number since this is all from memory, since again I couldn't find the original post to link)

Hope this helps! I will keep searching for the original post I am referencing!

Edit: This isn't the one I was looking for, but it does show that you can file more than once and gives an example waiver request letter

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/443814-waiver-for-multiple-filer/

Edit #2: Here is the original forum post I was referencing!

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/510972-multiple-filer/

Edited by Kat&Jon

Kat & Jon

I am Kat the US Citizen

K-1 Timeline                                                       AOS Timeline

July 21 2016- K-1 Application mailed                                             May 1 2017- AOS/EAD/AP Mailed

July 27 2016- NOA1 Text/Email                                                     May 26 2017 - NOA 1 Text/Email x1 Received (Packet Fiasco ><)

August 1 2016- NOA1 Hard Copy                                                 May XXXX - NOA 1 Hard Copies Received

Sept 15 2016- NOA 2 Text/Email                                                   XXXXXX - Biometrics  Appointment

Sept 20 2016- NOA 2 Hard Copy                                                  XXXXX -EAD/AP NOA 2 Text/Email

Oct 12 2016- NVC Received Case                                                XXXXX - EAD/AP NOA 2 Hard  Copy Received

Oct 14 2016- LND Case # Received                                             XXXXX - EAD/AP Combo Card Received

Oct 25 2016- Case In Transit to LND                                            XXXXX - AOS Interview/ Approval

Oct 28 2016- CEAC Status shows Ready                                     XXXXX- Green Card Received

Dec 13 2016- Medical

Jan 06 2017- Interview (Approved!)

Jan 10 2017- CEAC Status shows Issued

Feb 28 2017- POE Tampa

April 21 2017- Wedding

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I am no expert, but there is another post on the forum (tried to find it to link unsuccessfully) where this was a question and it was determined that it may look suspicious at the Embassy but there should be no issue at USCIS as long as you have lots of evidence to prove the new relationship is bonafide.

I also know from reading the forums pretty heavily that there are quite a few regular posters (hopefully one can post here as well) who have filed more than once and they were able to do so without issue. If I remember correctly there is a waiver required if it is 2 or more visa requests. (but I could be slightly off on the number since this is all from memory, since again I couldn't find the original post to link)

Hope this helps! I will keep searching for the original post I am referencing!

Edit: This isn't the one I was looking for, but it does show that you can file more than once and gives an example waiver request letter

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/443814-waiver-for-multiple-filer/

Edit #2: Here is the original forum post I was referencing!

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/510972-multiple-filer/

Thanks kat&jon for the info. I/m going thru the same situation and I will be filing in the next 2 months or so. This will be my second k-1 in 2 years. and even though my country is a high fraud on visas I'm hoping for the best. I will be filing a waiver in case this is necessary and we will try to be as well prepare for the interview. I will be sending proof of an ongoing relationship in the I-129F form even though this is not being ask for but it will give them a scoop that this is a true and real relationship. I will appreciate all your info thanks a lot

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jordan
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If you are trying for another K-1, you will get denied until 2 years has passed from your first petition.

stop making stuff up


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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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If you are trying for another K-1, you will get denied until 2 years has passed from your first petition.

Incorrect.

Will denied .it will red flag.

Red flag yes, denial perhaps and perhaps not, you can't look into the future.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Front load the next petition.
Wait a year at least to file. If the next one is a scammer too you will see red flags evolving over a years time that you can't catch in a few months.

Include a letter of what happened and why you feel your next fiance will not do the same thing and the best thing to convince a CO

of that is lots of visits and family interaction. Proof that you have spend lots of time to really know her.

Include the waiver request if under 2 years. Waivers for multiple filings are more a formality and nothing to worry about to get your petition approved,

the scrutiny will come at the interview and your next fiance needs to know everything about the previous fiance.

Petitioner should be on the premises during the interview.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I totally disagree with several of our posters, as I was the "best man" at my best friends wedding this past Saturday.

He was married to a gal from the Phils., July 2012. She messed around on him, he caught her, she signed documents in the attorneys office, admitting to adultery, etc. He divorced her about one year later.

He met another gal from the Phils., went to see her, and they filed another K-1, it was approved in less than 30 days. (Dec. 2014) But, after the NOA 2, due to police back ground check from Japan, where she had stayed with her sister for more than 6 months, it was July 12 of this year until she entered the USA. It was a long painful wait.

But, the time frame would have been without the Japan police clearance, he would have been "through the K-1 process" 2 times, and married within about a 3 year period.,,...,and not one question was asked about two K-1's within 3 years that was over and done! He got a fine lady this time.,.,I knew her from the Phils., as I spent 2 years there, and knew her and her family.

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