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I don't think the OP gave enough information in their post and I think it is rather one-sided. Still this raises some interesting hypothetical questions.

How does the requirement to keep a fiancee from becoming a public charge becomes a requirement to foot the bill for a ticket home for her after just two weeks? One can barely get over jet lag coming from that side of the world in just two weeks.

What if the guy just can't afford the cosf of a one way ticket to for his soon to Manila for his soon to be ex fiancee right now after just having shelled out all this money on the petition, visa fees, and the ticket over here? After all the Affidavit of Support doesn't require you to be even middle class to sponsor someone. It doesn't even require you to have a savings account.

If you've just spent $1000+ to fly your fiancee here, doesn't your fiancee have an obligation to at least make a reasonable effort at making things work? She made a big investment to come here too. Would someone who truly loves her let her throw it all away after just a couple weeks?

If she went to the CFO seminar like she was required to, she should be aware of what her options are. My wife went to that session before coming here and said they do a pretty good job of scaring the class particpants about everything that can go wrong and what they can do about it.

Perhaps a roundtrip ticket should be required for anyone entering on a K1 with the return date being 90 days after the date of entry. That would guarantee they could go home at the end of the 90 days if things didn't go as planned.

08/28/2004 Engaged

09/22/2004 I-129F submitted

10/01/2004 I-129F Approved

12/15/2004 K1 Issued

12/30/2004 Arrival in US

02/19/2005 Married

01/30/2006 Conditional Green Card Approved

01/15/2008 Conditions Removed and 10 Year Card Issued

03/28/2009 N-400 mailed to Lockbox

07/17/2009 Interview Denver USCIS office RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL

08/28/2009 Naturalization Ceremony - US District Court - Denver, Colorado[/b][/u]

09/04/2009 Applied for passport

09/22/2009 Passport approved and mailed

09/24/2009 Passport received

08/26/2009 Naturalization Certificate and Name Change Petition arrive back from State Department

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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I don't think the OP gave enough information in their post and I think it is rather one-sided. Still this raises some interesting hypothetical questions.

How does the requirement to keep a fiancee from becoming a public charge becomes a requirement to foot the bill for a ticket home for her after just two weeks? One can barely get over jet lag coming from that side of the world in just two weeks.

What if the guy just can't afford the cosf of a one way ticket to for his soon to Manila for his soon to be ex fiancee right now after just having shelled out all this money on the petition, visa fees, and the ticket over here? After all the Affidavit of Support doesn't require you to be even middle class to sponsor someone. It doesn't even require you to have a savings account.

If you've just spent $1000+ to fly your fiancee here, doesn't your fiancee have an obligation to at least make a reasonable effort at making things work? She made a big investment to come here too. Would someone who truly loves her let her throw it all away after just a couple weeks?

If she went to the CFO seminar like she was required to, she should be aware of what her options are. My wife went to that session before coming here and said they do a pretty good job of scaring the class particpants about everything that can go wrong and what they can do about it.

Perhaps a roundtrip ticket should be required for anyone entering on a K1 with the return date being 90 days after the date of entry. That would guarantee they could go home at the end of the 90 days if things didn't go as planned.

Then how about round trip for anyone entering the united states. Why should a k-1 visa holder be singled out. My fiance I believe is 99% certain she will stay. She is bringing more than enough money to return home any time she desires. How about a rule saying that anyone entering the united states needs say 5000 us dollars before a visa is granted . That is the way it is done in canada. If you desire to move to canada you need 10,000 to enter the country. At least my exgrilfriend did. several years ago. I do not desire to give an airline a 5-700 dollar gift because she MAY not be of a mind to stay here. I have other uses for that money.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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BTW....did anyone notice, that the poster didn't say anything afterwards???

I guess it is not as bad as she made it seem, so you guys should calm down and wait for her to say something AGAIN!

Maybe she will give more info to us, for a better understanding, after all the replies OR she will remain silent, because there is nothing to worry about.... :unsure:

Diana

Filed: Country: Philippines
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How about a rule saying that anyone entering the united states needs say 5000 us dollars before a visa is granted . That is the way it is done in canada. If you desire to move to canada you need 10,000 to enter the country.

Sounds like a good idea to me. The bottom line is that a potential immigrant should possess sufficient funds to buy a ticket home if they decide they want or need to. My understanding is that the Affidavit of Support for a K1 is just a promise to provide support and that it's not legally enforceable, unlike the I-864 for a green card holder.

Roundtrip tickets aren't always more expensive. In many cases, they're actually cheaper than a one way ticket.

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08/28/2004 Engaged

09/22/2004 I-129F submitted

10/01/2004 I-129F Approved

12/15/2004 K1 Issued

12/30/2004 Arrival in US

02/19/2005 Married

01/30/2006 Conditional Green Card Approved

01/15/2008 Conditions Removed and 10 Year Card Issued

03/28/2009 N-400 mailed to Lockbox

07/17/2009 Interview Denver USCIS office RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL

08/28/2009 Naturalization Ceremony - US District Court - Denver, Colorado[/b][/u]

09/04/2009 Applied for passport

09/22/2009 Passport approved and mailed

09/24/2009 Passport received

08/26/2009 Naturalization Certificate and Name Change Petition arrive back from State Department

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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You'd be cruxifying him if he had bought her a ticket home. I can just hear it "If he really loved her he wouldn't let her go".

HELLO!!??? MCFLY!!!???? HE SHOULD BUY HER A TICKET HOME!!! I dont condone ANY situation in ANY thread that supports holding someone against their will NOR do I condemn someone if they want to leave a relationship! Get a grip ma'am. Unlike you, Im not here to judge whether she is in "love" with him...whether she had true intent when she came into the relationship and decided to come to america and I sure as hell could care less if she's a gold digger...the point is that the OP stated he wont help her get back home. When you quit ADDING pertinent information to the original post maybe you'll read what's already there! And for the record - you dont know me so dont assume what I WOULD be saying if he did the honourable thing and bought her a ticket home. I dont CRUCIFY people who do the right thing.

I forgot. You don't judge people, you must "pegged them as kidnappers"

K1 Time Line

Don and Linh

October 22, 2006 - Sent I-129F

November 2, 2006 - NOA1

January 30, 2007 - NOA2

February 8, 2007 - Arrives at NVC

February 12, 2007 - Arrives at Consultate in HCMC

February 28, 2007 - Consulate sends out Packet 3

March 8, 2007 - Packet 3 recieved

May 11, 2007 - Packet 3 recieved by Consulate

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I don't think the OP gave enough information in their post and I think it is rather one-sided. Still this raises some interesting hypothetical questions.

How does the requirement to keep a fiancee from becoming a public charge becomes a requirement to foot the bill for a ticket home for her after just two weeks? One can barely get over jet lag coming from that side of the world in just two weeks.

What if the guy just can't afford the cosf of a one way ticket to for his soon to Manila for his soon to be ex fiancee right now after just having shelled out all this money on the petition, visa fees, and the ticket over here? After all the Affidavit of Support doesn't require you to be even middle class to sponsor someone. It doesn't even require you to have a savings account.

If you've just spent $1000+ to fly your fiancee here, doesn't your fiancee have an obligation to at least make a reasonable effort at making things work? She made a big investment to come here too. Would someone who truly loves her let her throw it all away after just a couple weeks?

If she went to the CFO seminar like she was required to, she should be aware of what her options are. My wife went to that session before coming here and said they do a pretty good job of scaring the class particpants about everything that can go wrong and what they can do about it.

Perhaps a roundtrip ticket should be required for anyone entering on a K1 with the return date being 90 days after the date of entry. That would guarantee they could go home at the end of the 90 days if things didn't go as planned.

Then how about round trip for anyone entering the united states. Why should a k-1 visa holder be singled out. My fiance I believe is 99% certain she will stay. She is bringing more than enough money to return home any time she desires. How about a rule saying that anyone entering the united states needs say 5000 us dollars before a visa is granted . That is the way it is done in canada. If you desire to move to canada you need 10,000 to enter the country. At least my exgrilfriend did. several years ago. I do not desire to give an airline a 5-700 dollar gift because she MAY not be of a mind to stay here. I have other uses for that money.

Me thinks that smacks of favoritism towards 1st world immigrants. Those of us who happen to fall in love with 3rd world women are on the hook for virtually all of the financial burdons of this process (gladly! :D ) but that is how it is. At least in most such cases. My fiance won't be bringing along anything approaching that much cash, and if the worst happens and things don't work out, it will be up to me to see that she makes it back to the Philippines or United Arab Emirates. It will devastate me, but that is what I would be compelled to do.

This is a rough enough burdon for 1st/3rd world relationships, and would likely mean that petitioners also need to funnel a huge bundle, at excessive transfer rates, just so their SO can come here under a fiance visa, and return that money to them. And younger or poorer petitioners would be largely knocked out of the process.

There are enough barriers to weed out those who aren't serious about taking this journey.

It is impossible to say what is actually going on with the original OP who suspiciously has not replied to anyone after the first post and despite generating 5 pages or responses.

B and J K-1 story

  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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You'd be cruxifying him if he had bought her a ticket home. I can just hear it "If he really loved her he wouldn't let her go".

HELLO!!??? MCFLY!!!???? HE SHOULD BUY HER A TICKET HOME!!! I dont condone ANY situation in ANY thread that supports holding someone against their will NOR do I condemn someone if they want to leave a relationship! Get a grip ma'am. Unlike you, Im not here to judge whether she is in "love" with him...whether she had true intent when she came into the relationship and decided to come to america and I sure as hell could care less if she's a gold digger...the point is that the OP stated he wont help her get back home. When you quit ADDING pertinent information to the original post maybe you'll read what's already there! And for the record - you dont know me so dont assume what I WOULD be saying if he did the honourable thing and bought her a ticket home. I dont CRUCIFY people who do the right thing.

I forgot. You don't judge people, you must "pegged them as kidnappers"

Hey Don, I said I wasnt here to judge whether they are in love or not. You should read before your fingers get busy on the keyboard. And I pegged the USC in the original post a kidnapper...not people in general. Why dont you give your vietnam hunny a call and quit taking your strange aggressions out on me.

 
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