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Filed: Country: Uzbekistan
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I was wondering what do people think about requiring a proof of meeting as being a Westernized, cultural phenom? I was thinking that in Eastern cultures that with arranged marriages and such that having a proof of meeting requirement would stack the cards against cultures which do not have the same romantic conception of a relationship like the States?

Just a thought...

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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I was wondering what do people think about requiring a proof of meeting as being a Westernized, cultural phenom? I was thinking that in Eastern cultures that with arranged marriages and such that having a proof of meeting requirement would stack the cards against cultures which do not have the same romantic conception of a relationship like the States?

Just a thought...

In this case I think it is more about sham marriages and green card fraud.

There was an instance where the overseas person would pay a fee to a USC just to get over here.

You could have an arranged marriage in the USA if both people were already citizens and agreeable to it.

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In most arranged marriages the couple is allowed to meet with a chaperone present; and the I-129F has an exemption for those rare cultures where the couple is not permitted to meet. (Of course, it's going to be sort of tricky to prove the American partakes in such a culture.)

It's not culturally biased, and it does prevent a whole lot of fraud.

AOS

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Filed: 8/1/07

NOA1:9/7/07

Biometrics: 9/28/07

EAD/AP: 10/17/07

EAD card ordered again (who knows, maybe we got the two-fer deal): 10/23/-7

Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

Approved: 11/21/07

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I was wondering what do people think about requiring a proof of meeting as being a Westernized, cultural phenom? I was thinking that in Eastern cultures that with arranged marriages and such that having a proof of meeting requirement would stack the cards against cultures which do not have the same romantic conception of a relationship like the States?

Just a thought...

I think there is some truth to this. But in cultures where arranged marriages do occur and the bride and groom do not meet, their families do meet. The bride knows her furture female relatives before marriage and vice versa. USCIS does allow for an exemption, but it is a very difficult hoop to jump through.

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24 March 2009 I-751 received by USCIS

27 March 2009 Check Cashed

30 March 2009 NOA received

8 April 2009 Biometric notice arrived by mail

24 April 2009 Biometrics scheduled

26 April 2009 Touched

...once again waiting

1 September 2009 (just over 5 months) Approved and card production ordered.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nepal
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Yes, all cultures have a cultural bias, as do their governments.

We all have a choice about whether we want to deal with it, or live in our non-USC SO's country, or even in a 3rd country. Clearly, at least one of each couple here has a strong connection to the US and the couple has decided to live in the US culture.

The proof of meeting requirement does have an exception clause to it, provided you can prove that it contravenes your cultural or religious rules.

Maya

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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As I see it, the USCIS has to maintain a delicate balance with, as mentioned earlier, preventing fraudulent marriages as well as respecting other cultures.

With that said, and if I recall, the I-129F specifically mentions cultural norms as a possible waiver of the "having met" requirement granted it must be explained as an attachment.

|| Adjustment of Status ||

01.09.09 :: Interview passed and conditional GC granted

11.17.08 :: Appointment Notice for Interview on 01.09.09

06.09.08 :: EAD received

06.06.08 :: AP received

06.02.08 :: EAD touched; card production ordered

05.30.08 :: AP touched

05.08.08 :: Biometrics appointment; AOS and EAD touched

04.28.08 :: Appointment Notice for Biometrics on 05.08.08

04.22.08 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation (AOS, AP, EAD)

04.21.08 :: Application fee processed

03.09.08 :: Application received by USCIS

03.07.08 :: Submitted I-485 Adjustment of Status (incl AP, EAD)

|| K1 Fiance Visa ||

12.01.07 :: Marriage date

09.29.07 :: Entered U.S. via San Ysidro POE

09.21.07 :: Cena de Compramisos - officially proposed

09.04.07 :: CDJ interview - visa granted (full report)

09.03.07 :: CDJ medical exam taken

08.11.07 :: CDJ packet received by beneficiary

07.15.07 :: CDJ packet received by petitioner

06.20.07 :: NOA2 petition approval

06.19.07 :: Touched

06.14.07 :: Touched - CSC confirmed receipt of RFE response

06.06.07 :: RFE received by CSC

05.30.07 :: RFE replied

05.28.07 :: RFE received

05.21.07 :: Touched

03.09.07 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation

03.07.07 :: Application fee processed

03.06.07 :: Application received by CSC

02.28.07 :: Submitted I-129F Petition for Fiance Visa

05.17.05 :: Registered on VisaJourney.com

12.21.04 :: She hit on me first ... really... I swear

 
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