Oh God! Please Help!

[ameriscot 0]

Any updates on this situation? I am so sorry for you. You must be stressing like crazy!! I am sure it will all work out in the end. Hang in there!

Edited March 9, 2007 by ameriscot

[Abygail 0]

Any updates on this situation? I am so sorry for you. You must be stressing like crazy!! I am sure it will all work out in the end. Hang in there!

Please see the update below; I know it's not much of one & that we just need to make the choice and move on.

Thanks to all for the support and input.

Ok, here's how the Infopass appt. went---

We didn't get past the officer at the front door, since she said there was nothing they could do for us (stamp passport) till we have a pending case. When I first explained our situation, she said that there was no point in filing the I-90 and paying the fee because they wouldn't process it with the card expiring anyway, and to send in the I-751. I pointed out that the I-751 instructions said to include a copy of the front and back and she suggested including an explanation with our I-751 submission that also questioned if we need to do the I-90 as well. She asked when the wallet was lost, and was thinking we could send a copy of a police report (couldn't file one without proof of id theft). I asked if sending the I-751 without doing the I-90 would result in our case being denied. Again, no answer, but pointed out that we could file the I-90 electronically and pay the fee if we wanted to.

Still undecided...

[dipumiah 0]

Any updates on this situation? I am so sorry for you. You must be stressing like crazy!! I am sure it will all work out in the end. Hang in there!

Please see the update below; I know it's not much of one & that we just need to make the choice and move on.

Thanks to all for the support and input.

Ok, here's how the Infopass appt. went---

We didn't get past the officer at the front door, since she said there was nothing they could do for us (stamp passport) till we have a pending case. When I first explained our situation, she said that there was no point in filing the I-90 and paying the fee because they wouldn't process it with the card expiring anyway, and to send in the I-751. I pointed out that the I-751 instructions said to include a copy of the front and back and she suggested including an explanation with our I-751 submission that also questioned if we need to do the I-90 as well. She asked when the wallet was lost, and was thinking we could send a copy of a police report (couldn't file one without proof of id theft). I asked if sending the I-751 without doing the I-90 would result in our case being denied. Again, no answer, but pointed out that we could file the I-90 electronically and pay the fee if we wanted to.

Still undecided...

I would go ahead and file the I-751 with a copy of the front of the green card. When you copy the back of the green card..all that comes up is a black/white picture of nothing. If you have a family memeber that has another green card in their possession, just use theirs to copy the back of it. No personal information s uch as name, date of birth or photo is on it, unless you do color printnig which may show the hologram that is printed.

I think you should not file an I-90 because it will be nothing but a waste of money for you. We got our I-751 approved in 2 months. As long as you can provide evidence of a bona fide relationship, i dont think you should worry too much about this green card thing. Believe me, these people have millions of applications to look at every day and th ey will not stop yours and realize that there is something "fishy" about the back of your green card.

I guess you will now have some paranoid pple going against this

[Abygail 0]

I would go ahead and file the I-751 with a copy of the front of the green card. When you copy the back of the green card..all that comes up is a black/white picture of nothing. If you have a family memeber that has another green card in their possession, just use theirs to copy the back of it. No personal information s uch as name, date of birth or photo is on it, unless you do color printnig which may show the hologram that is printed.

I think you should not file an I-90 because it will be nothing but a waste of money for you. We got our I-751 approved in 2 months. As long as you can provide evidence of a bona fide relationship, i dont think you should worry too much about this green card thing. Believe me, these people have millions of applications to look at every day and th ey will not stop yours and realize that there is something "fishy" about the back of your green card.

I guess you will now have some paranoid pple going against this

Thanks for the input. At the moment we're leaning towards sending the I-751 without doing the I-90. I also was able to get through on the phone with USCIS and was told about the same thing as at the Infopass appt. They're not sure, but that it was up to our discretion and that of the reviewing case officer. She also agreed with the infopass appt. rep. (include an explanation and ask within it to be advised if we need to do the I-90 still). For this route, I've got proof that we've opened new accounts, new cards, filed fraud alerts, and we'll be filing a police report today (a week late due to some bad info from the clerk at the station).

[meauxna 15]

hi Aby & thanks for your PM to show me this thread.

Speaking strictly from my own personality and how I would tend to handle such a thing, I'll say that you seem to have the same kind of common sense as I do. Normally I'm loathe to disagree with Yodrak because when I do, but look more carefully, I see my error. However, I wonder if Y saw your I-751 filing date and took that into account.

It's well documented that I-90 takes the better part of a year from filing to new card. As you know, you'll have a new card before that via the I-751 process.

I would not have much issue with the missing copy of the back of the card, but I'd probably put in a note where that page would be, explaining the situation. Evidence of the steps you've taken since the loss (new accts, police report etc) can be back up evidence.

This is a case where the letter of the law vs the spirit of the law vs practicalities collide a bit. You may want to do a little risk/benefit analysis of your own and ask yourself 'what is the worst that could happen' as a result of not filing I-90. We already know the risk of not filing I-751 on time (fatal) but the I-90 requirement? Might be time to apply the Jesuit principle* IF/WHEN it comes up.

Based on what you were told at your non-InfoPass and my own experience, once you have your I-751 NOA extending status for a year, you *should* be able to get a passport I-551 stamp in his passport as your required (remind them) evidence of status. We had to get one while waiting for the new card production (had to turn in the expired card at approval and place order for new one--it's a bit different now). Don't be surprised if the stamp is valid for less than one year.

Common sense got me through a lot of this process when I didn't have anyone to ask and nowhere to look it up.

*"it's better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission"

[Yodrak 7]

dipumiah,

There's a bar code on the back of the I-551 as well, below the hologram.

Yodrak

I would go ahead and file the I-751 with a copy of the front of the green card. When you copy the back of the green card..all that comes up is a black/white picture of nothing. If you have a family memeber that has another green card in their possession, just use theirs to copy the back of it. No personal information s uch as name, date of birth or photo is on it, unless you do color printnig which may show the hologram that is printed.

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[Yodrak 7]

meauxna,

I recognize that the I-90 would not get acted on in time to be of any use, but I would submit it anyway so as to document that the card was lost should there be an RFE for a photocopy of the back of the card or for the card itself. An expensive way to document, for sure - so a matter of personal preference.

Yodrak

hi Aby & thanks for your PM to show me this thread.

Speaking strictly from my own personality and how I would tend to handle such a thing, I'll say that you seem to have the same kind of common sense as I do. Normally I'm loathe to disagree with Yodrak because when I do, but look more carefully, I see my error. However, I wonder if Y saw your I-751 filing date and took that into account.

It's well documented that I-90 takes the better part of a year from filing to new card. As you know, you'll have a new card before that via the I-751 process.

I would not have much issue with the missing copy of the back of the card, but I'd probably put in a note where that page would be, explaining the situation. Evidence of the steps you've taken since the loss (new accts, police report etc) can be back up evidence.

This is a case where the letter of the law vs the spirit of the law vs practicalities collide a bit. You may want to do a little risk/benefit analysis of your own and ask yourself 'what is the worst that could happen' as a result of not filing I-90. We already know the risk of not filing I-751 on time (fatal) but the I-90 requirement? Might be time to apply the Jesuit principle* IF/WHEN it comes up.

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[Abygail 0]

hi Aby & thanks for your PM to show me this thread.

Speaking strictly from my own personality and how I would tend to handle such a thing, I'll say that you seem to have the same kind of common sense as I do. Normally I'm loathe to disagree with Yodrak because when I do, but look more carefully, I see my error. However, I wonder if Y saw your I-751 filing date and took that into account.

It's well documented that I-90 takes the better part of a year from filing to new card. As you know, you'll have a new card before that via the I-751 process.

I would not have much issue with the missing copy of the back of the card, but I'd probably put in a note where that page would be, explaining the situation. Evidence of the steps you've taken since the loss (new accts, police report etc) can be back up evidence.

This is a case where the letter of the law vs the spirit of the law vs practicalities collide a bit. You may want to do a little risk/benefit analysis of your own and ask yourself 'what is the worst that could happen' as a result of not filing I-90. We already know the risk of not filing I-751 on time (fatal) but the I-90 requirement? Might be time to apply the Jesuit principle* IF/WHEN it comes up.

Based on what you were told at your non-InfoPass and my own experience, once you have your I-751 NOA extending status for a year, you *should* be able to get a passport I-551 stamp in his passport as your required (remind them) evidence of status. We had to get one while waiting for the new card production (had to turn in the expired card at approval and place order for new one--it's a bit different now). Don't be surprised if the stamp is valid for less than one year.

Common sense got me through a lot of this process when I didn't have anyone to ask and nowhere to look it up.

*"it's better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission"

Meauxna, thank you so much for weighing in!

I think you'll all be glad to know we sent our I-751 off today... so, no more indecisiveness from us, and no looking back now. We ended up including an explanation in place of the copy of the back of the green card. I hope our examiner will use the same logic we did. Not sure what the worst could happen for not filing the I-90 is, but hopefully we don't find out. I'm looking at it as though our case & situation is on their desk now, and they've got about 2 months to let us know before the card expires anyway. We definitely plan on getting my husband's passport stamped once we receive the NOA.

Thanks again to everyone who offered feedback!

[NYPeach 13]

Glad you got it out of your hands. Will keep my fingers crossed for you that it gets processed without a hitch!

[Abygail 0]

I posted this on another thread last night, but probably should have added it here--- I was wrong and I am looking back now. The other thread had a question about filling in the blanks on the I-751 form and I realized I didn't fill in all the blanks! I'm really nervous now, wondering what will happen with our petition. I know, I know, I should have followed the instructions- guess I was too focused on the lost green card situation. Anybody know what will happen now, will they deny it? I should have filled in n/a for other names, my A#, & kids.

Thanks for any help to calm my nerves!

[meauxna 15]

Abygail,

I can guarantee that one of two things will now happen:

1-you will get an RFE

2-your case will process exactly like normal

I imagine that you will be able to deal with either of those outcomes.

Sit back and think good thoughts, since there is nothing else you can do about it in this moment.

[Abygail 0]

Abygail,

I can guarantee that one of two things will now happen:

1-you will get an RFE

2-your case will process exactly like normal

I imagine that you will be able to deal with either of those outcomes.

Sit back and think good thoughts, since there is nothing else you can do about it in this moment.

Thank you - you're right - I'll try to calm down (I even started another thread ).

Edited March 13, 2007 by Abygail

[Flames9_RN 358]

and IF u do get a RFE, just maybe they wil have the info on how to properly rectify the situation. Best of luck