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Some interesting information was brought to my attention yesterday.

In U.S. Citizen Part 2 under 2.4 Relationship: If you met through an online website, you must submit a copy of the signed written consent form that the International Marriage Broker obtained from the alien authorizing the release of her/his personal contact information to you, or documentation to establish that the website is not an International Marriage Broker.

We met on a quit smoking web site and need to get this documentation from the administrator. We also went to another quit smoking web site and Rapid Visa says we should get the same from them too because we still haven't meet in person yet. I had no idea we needed this and it would of delayed our K1 visa for sure.

Hope this could be helpful to someone.

Our Timeline AOS Timeline

10/24/13 - Met online 04/30/16 - Sent AOS Forms I-864, I-485, I-765, I-131, G-325a, G-1145 with check

01/16/14 - Fell in love online 05/07/16 - Received text & email with case#

05/03/14 - Met for first time - He went to England 05/09/16 - Check cashed for $1,070.00

08/07/14 - She came to USA 1st time 05/13/16 - Received NOA1 for I-485, I-131, I-765

12/28/14 - She came to USA 2nd time 06/03/16 - Biometrics Appointment

02/10/15 - Officially engaged at the Grand Canyon 08/01/16 - Email & Text saying I-131 & I-765 Approved

04/27/15 - She came to USA 3rd time 08/06/16 - Received letters of approval for I-131 & !765

07/14/15 - She came to USA 4th time 08/12/16 - Received Combo card in US mail!

10/14/16 - Received RFE for proof of marriage

K1 VISA Timeline 10/15/16 - Sent in RFE paperwork

09/23/15 - Sent info to Rapid Visa 10/19/16 - Received text - AOS APPROVED!!!!

10/13/15 - Conformation from USCIS - NOA1 10/22/16 - Received hard copy of I-485 approval

11/06/15 - I-129F Approved! via USCIS Website! 10/22/16 - Received text - Your 2 year Greed card has mailed

11/13/15 - Received hard copy in mail - NOA2 10/25/16 - Received Green Card in the mail! - Yahoooo!

11/23/15 - Received by NVC (called on 24th)

11/24/15 - Called NVC and got LND#

11/30/15 - Case status at NVC: READY!

01/12/16 - Medical completed!

01/23/16 - Packet 4 received

01/27/16 - Interview - APPROVED!

02/05/16 - Visa In Hand

02/11/16 - POE - Ohio

04/02/16 - Wedding - Yahooo!

Posted

The requirements must have been changed then. My husband and I met online through YouTube in 2008, sent I-129F in August 2013, approved in January 2014, and we never had provided any form from the website.

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat

- Sun Tzu-

It doesn't matter how slow you go as long as you don't stop

-Confucius-

 

-I am the beneficiary and my post is not reflecting my petitioner's point of views-

 

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*Mailed I-751 package (06/21/2017) to CSC

*NOA-1 date (06/23/2017)

*NOA-1 received (06/28/2017)

*Check cashed (06/27/2017)

*Biometric Received (07/10/2017)

*Biometric Appointment (07/20/2017)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

How do you have a photo together if you have not met?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted

How do you have a photo together if you have not met?

We met on the first web site in November 2013 and went to the second web site in March 2014. I went to see her in May of 2014. She has been here 4 times since August 2014.

Our Timeline AOS Timeline

10/24/13 - Met online 04/30/16 - Sent AOS Forms I-864, I-485, I-765, I-131, G-325a, G-1145 with check

01/16/14 - Fell in love online 05/07/16 - Received text & email with case#

05/03/14 - Met for first time - He went to England 05/09/16 - Check cashed for $1,070.00

08/07/14 - She came to USA 1st time 05/13/16 - Received NOA1 for I-485, I-131, I-765

12/28/14 - She came to USA 2nd time 06/03/16 - Biometrics Appointment

02/10/15 - Officially engaged at the Grand Canyon 08/01/16 - Email & Text saying I-131 & I-765 Approved

04/27/15 - She came to USA 3rd time 08/06/16 - Received letters of approval for I-131 & !765

07/14/15 - She came to USA 4th time 08/12/16 - Received Combo card in US mail!

10/14/16 - Received RFE for proof of marriage

K1 VISA Timeline 10/15/16 - Sent in RFE paperwork

09/23/15 - Sent info to Rapid Visa 10/19/16 - Received text - AOS APPROVED!!!!

10/13/15 - Conformation from USCIS - NOA1 10/22/16 - Received hard copy of I-485 approval

11/06/15 - I-129F Approved! via USCIS Website! 10/22/16 - Received text - Your 2 year Greed card has mailed

11/13/15 - Received hard copy in mail - NOA2 10/25/16 - Received Green Card in the mail! - Yahoooo!

11/23/15 - Received by NVC (called on 24th)

11/24/15 - Called NVC and got LND#

11/30/15 - Case status at NVC: READY!

01/12/16 - Medical completed!

01/23/16 - Packet 4 received

01/27/16 - Interview - APPROVED!

02/05/16 - Visa In Hand

02/11/16 - POE - Ohio

04/02/16 - Wedding - Yahooo!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

A non issue

Have you both given up?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
Timeline
Posted (edited)

You need to meet in person before filing the K1, it is a requirement to have met in person within 2 years before filing. If you worded things to them the same way you did here (we have not met in person yet) then they may be confused.

The letter is only necessary if the website you met through is a dating/ marriage website, not for a stop smoking website.

Edited by Penguin_ie

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Posted

You only need to disclose that you met online IF the website you met online was an International Marriage Broker.

From the I-129F instructions:

1. What are the Requirements for Compliance With the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA)?

If you met your fiancé(e) or spouse (your beneficiary) through the services of an international marriage broker (IMB), you must notify USCIS of that fact by answering Item Number 35. in Part 2. of this form. In addition, you must provide the signed, written consent form that the IMB obtained from your beneficiary authorizing the release of his or her personal contact information to you. If the consent form is written in any language other than English, you must provide a certified English translation with the original form.

The term "international marriage broker" means a corporation, partnership, business, individual, or other legal entity, whether or not organized under any law of the United States, that charges fees for providing dating, matrimonial, matchmaking services, or social referrals between United States citizens or nationals or aliens lawfully admitted to the United States as lawful permanent residents and foreign national clients.

The I-129F form does not ask you to disclose you met online. It only asks you to disclose the circumstances of how you met IN PERSON. You only need to disclose you met online IF you met online through an IMB.

From the Form I-129F:

Part 2. Question 34.a. Describe the circumstances under which you met. [...] If you met your fiancé(e) or spouse through an international marriage broker, please explain those circumstances in number 35.a.

In conclusion, you only need to explain how you met in person within the last 2 years. You do not need to state you initially met online. You would only need to IF that website you met were an IMB.

I met my wife initially online as well, but I only wrote on the form on question 34.a: I met my fiancée [name] at NAIA airport in Manila, Philippines on Nov 3, 2013. We spent 2 weeks together. I also included a one page timeline of our relationship and how our relationship began and evolved. On this I explained how we initially met online. There was no issue whatsoever, and I didn't have to include anything from the website stating they are not an IMB.

K-1
NOA1: 04/08/2014; NOA2: 04/21/2014; Visa interview, approved: 07/15/2014; POE: 07/25/2014; Marriage: 09/05/2014

 

AOS

NOA1:  09/12/2014;  Biometrics:  10/06/2014;  EAD/AP Received:  11/26/2014;  Interview Waiver Letter:  01/02/2015;  

RFE:  07/09/2015;  Permanent Residency Granted:  07/27/2015;  Green card Received:  08/22/2015

 

ROC

NOA1:  05/24/2017;  Biometrics:  06/13/2017;  Approved without interview:  09/05/2018;  10 Yr Green card Received:  09/13/2018

 

Naturalization

08/09/2020 -- Filed N-400 online

08/09/2020 -- NOA1 date

08/11/2020 -- NOA1 received in the mail

12/30/2020 -- Received notice online that an interview was scheduled

02/11/2021 -- Interview

Posted

I think we can all agree regarding the disclosing an IMB part. The OP's reference insinuates may have to verify the site ISN'T an IMB. However it is confusing, were you subject to this or just bringing it up? I think a no smoking site is fairly self evident they aren't an IMB. Also subsequent posts is very confusing as its mentioned you haven't met, but again have photos and later mention you met there 1x and her here 4x?

Some interesting information was brought to my attention yesterday.

In U.S. Citizen Part 2 under 2.4 Relationship: If you met through an online website, you must submit a copy of the signed written consent form that the International Marriage Broker obtained from the alien authorizing the release of her/his personal contact information to you, or documentation to establish that the website is not an International Marriage Broker.

We met on a quit smoking web site and need to get this documentation from the administrator. We also went to another quit smoking web site and Rapid Visa says we should get the same from them too because we still haven't meet in person yet. I had no idea we needed this and it would of delayed our K1 visa for sure.

Hope this could be helpful to someone.

Posted

But in my understanding meeting online and meeting through an international marriage broker are two different things.

That's what I thought too. We answered No also but Rapid Visa says they will require proof from the web site. This could be over kill but what ever it takes. Guess they want to make sure web site is legitimate?

Anyway congratulations to you guys as I see in your time line!

Our Timeline AOS Timeline

10/24/13 - Met online 04/30/16 - Sent AOS Forms I-864, I-485, I-765, I-131, G-325a, G-1145 with check

01/16/14 - Fell in love online 05/07/16 - Received text & email with case#

05/03/14 - Met for first time - He went to England 05/09/16 - Check cashed for $1,070.00

08/07/14 - She came to USA 1st time 05/13/16 - Received NOA1 for I-485, I-131, I-765

12/28/14 - She came to USA 2nd time 06/03/16 - Biometrics Appointment

02/10/15 - Officially engaged at the Grand Canyon 08/01/16 - Email & Text saying I-131 & I-765 Approved

04/27/15 - She came to USA 3rd time 08/06/16 - Received letters of approval for I-131 & !765

07/14/15 - She came to USA 4th time 08/12/16 - Received Combo card in US mail!

10/14/16 - Received RFE for proof of marriage

K1 VISA Timeline 10/15/16 - Sent in RFE paperwork

09/23/15 - Sent info to Rapid Visa 10/19/16 - Received text - AOS APPROVED!!!!

10/13/15 - Conformation from USCIS - NOA1 10/22/16 - Received hard copy of I-485 approval

11/06/15 - I-129F Approved! via USCIS Website! 10/22/16 - Received text - Your 2 year Greed card has mailed

11/13/15 - Received hard copy in mail - NOA2 10/25/16 - Received Green Card in the mail! - Yahoooo!

11/23/15 - Received by NVC (called on 24th)

11/24/15 - Called NVC and got LND#

11/30/15 - Case status at NVC: READY!

01/12/16 - Medical completed!

01/23/16 - Packet 4 received

01/27/16 - Interview - APPROVED!

02/05/16 - Visa In Hand

02/11/16 - POE - Ohio

04/02/16 - Wedding - Yahooo!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Jamaica
Timeline
Posted

We met online in 2013. While he was questioned about how our online meeting evolved into a bonfide relationship at his interview. we were not asked to submit any documentation or information about the website we met on. Maybe Rapid Visa is erring on the side of caution.

Note; this was not the reason for his denial....totally different issue.

Posted

Have you both given up?

Hell no!

Just another hurtle to jump!

Our Timeline AOS Timeline

10/24/13 - Met online 04/30/16 - Sent AOS Forms I-864, I-485, I-765, I-131, G-325a, G-1145 with check

01/16/14 - Fell in love online 05/07/16 - Received text & email with case#

05/03/14 - Met for first time - He went to England 05/09/16 - Check cashed for $1,070.00

08/07/14 - She came to USA 1st time 05/13/16 - Received NOA1 for I-485, I-131, I-765

12/28/14 - She came to USA 2nd time 06/03/16 - Biometrics Appointment

02/10/15 - Officially engaged at the Grand Canyon 08/01/16 - Email & Text saying I-131 & I-765 Approved

04/27/15 - She came to USA 3rd time 08/06/16 - Received letters of approval for I-131 & !765

07/14/15 - She came to USA 4th time 08/12/16 - Received Combo card in US mail!

10/14/16 - Received RFE for proof of marriage

K1 VISA Timeline 10/15/16 - Sent in RFE paperwork

09/23/15 - Sent info to Rapid Visa 10/19/16 - Received text - AOS APPROVED!!!!

10/13/15 - Conformation from USCIS - NOA1 10/22/16 - Received hard copy of I-485 approval

11/06/15 - I-129F Approved! via USCIS Website! 10/22/16 - Received text - Your 2 year Greed card has mailed

11/13/15 - Received hard copy in mail - NOA2 10/25/16 - Received Green Card in the mail! - Yahoooo!

11/23/15 - Received by NVC (called on 24th)

11/24/15 - Called NVC and got LND#

11/30/15 - Case status at NVC: READY!

01/12/16 - Medical completed!

01/23/16 - Packet 4 received

01/27/16 - Interview - APPROVED!

02/05/16 - Visa In Hand

02/11/16 - POE - Ohio

04/02/16 - Wedding - Yahooo!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

Hell no!

Just another hurtle to jump!

Good luck

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

That's what I thought too. We answered No also but Rapid Visa says they will require proof from the web site. This could be over kill but what ever it takes. Guess they want to make sure web site is legitimate?

Anyway congratulations to you guys as I see in your time line!

Yeah I think it's definitely overkill because my fiancé and I also met online (on a dating website) and even at my interview they only asked for the name of the website and that's it.

Thank you, and good luck on your journey!

K1 Visa

Feb 2, 2013 - Met

Aug 13, 2013 - Started dating

Aug 13, 2014 - Got engaged

Nov 18, 2014 - I-129 sent

Nov 21, 2014 - NOA1

June 16, 2015 - NOA2

June 25, 2015 - Sent to NVC

July 23, 2015 - Consulate received

July 29, 2015 - Packet 3 sent

July 30, 2015 - Packet 4 received

Aug 11, 2015 - Medical

Aug 18, 2015 - Received medical package in the mail

Sept 16, 2015 - Interview - Approved!

Sept 25, 2015 - Visa in hand!

Oct 4, 2015 - POE

Nov 17, 2015 - Wedding

AOS

Dec 14, 2015 - Documents sent

Jan 22, 2016 - Biometrics

March 27, 2016 - RFE

May 27, 2016 - EAD received

July 7, 2016 - Interview - Approved!

July 15, 2016 - GC received

Posted

In U.S. Citizen Part 2 under 2.4 Relationship: If you met through an online website, you must submit a copy of the signed written consent form that the International Marriage Broker obtained from the alien authorizing the release of her/his personal contact information to you, or documentation to establish that the website is not an International Marriage Broker.

This is the part that we must prove for what I'm told.

The administrators for both sites are going to provide us with a signed letter stating the above.

Trying to clarify: We met on line and met in person 6 months later.

Our Timeline AOS Timeline

10/24/13 - Met online 04/30/16 - Sent AOS Forms I-864, I-485, I-765, I-131, G-325a, G-1145 with check

01/16/14 - Fell in love online 05/07/16 - Received text & email with case#

05/03/14 - Met for first time - He went to England 05/09/16 - Check cashed for $1,070.00

08/07/14 - She came to USA 1st time 05/13/16 - Received NOA1 for I-485, I-131, I-765

12/28/14 - She came to USA 2nd time 06/03/16 - Biometrics Appointment

02/10/15 - Officially engaged at the Grand Canyon 08/01/16 - Email & Text saying I-131 & I-765 Approved

04/27/15 - She came to USA 3rd time 08/06/16 - Received letters of approval for I-131 & !765

07/14/15 - She came to USA 4th time 08/12/16 - Received Combo card in US mail!

10/14/16 - Received RFE for proof of marriage

K1 VISA Timeline 10/15/16 - Sent in RFE paperwork

09/23/15 - Sent info to Rapid Visa 10/19/16 - Received text - AOS APPROVED!!!!

10/13/15 - Conformation from USCIS - NOA1 10/22/16 - Received hard copy of I-485 approval

11/06/15 - I-129F Approved! via USCIS Website! 10/22/16 - Received text - Your 2 year Greed card has mailed

11/13/15 - Received hard copy in mail - NOA2 10/25/16 - Received Green Card in the mail! - Yahoooo!

11/23/15 - Received by NVC (called on 24th)

11/24/15 - Called NVC and got LND#

11/30/15 - Case status at NVC: READY!

01/12/16 - Medical completed!

01/23/16 - Packet 4 received

01/27/16 - Interview - APPROVED!

02/05/16 - Visa In Hand

02/11/16 - POE - Ohio

04/02/16 - Wedding - Yahooo!

 
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