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Filed: Other Country: Pakistan
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Since educational qualification is irrelevant in family based petitions and cannot affect the visa eligibility. As far as I understand misrepresentation is considered to be material if the applicant would fail to obtain visa had he not lied/misrepresented about the fact. following is the excerpt from FAM with regard to misrepresentation.

"UNCLASSIFIED (U)

U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9
Visas
9 FAM 40.63 Notes Page 12 of 20
UNCLASSIFIED (U)
9 FAM 40.63 N6.3-4 Application of Phrase "Which Might Have
Resulted"
(CT:VISA-2255; 02-18-2015)
In order to sustain a finding of materiality, it must be shown that the information
foreclosed by the misrepresentation was of basic significance to the alien's
eligibility for a visa. The information concealed by the misrepresentation must,
when balanced against all the other information of record, have been controlling or
crucial to a final decision of the alien's eligibility to receive a visa. For example, if
an alien was trying to establish a residence abroad by submitting false evidence of
particular employment and it appeared that the alien had other ties meriting
favorable consideration, the misrepresentation would not be considered to be
material unless you can state categorically that, if the true facts had been known,
no visa could properly have been issued"
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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Like other said CR/Ir1 visas does not require educational evidence but thing is if a person has written on forms to be a bachelor but fails to demonstrate his level of being a graduate by any means the interviewer might think there is a red flag and as he is the one incharge and its his responsibility to only allow the genuine cases can reject your case on any grounds and have to give a solid reason too for that rejection because they dont cross check educational documents in Spousal visa but then again my knowledge is limited hopefully some one else can shed more light on it

Service Center : Nebraska Service Center

Consulate : Islamabad, Pakistan

Marriage (if applicable): 2013-08-24

I-130 Sent : 2014-08-28

I-130 NOA1 : 2014-09-02

I-130 RFE : 2015-02-06

I-130 RFE Sent : 2015-02-20

I-130 Approved : 2015-03-03

NVC Received : 2015-03-28

Received DS-261 / AOS Bill : 2015-06-01

Pay AOS Bill : 2015-06-01

Send AOS Package : 2015-06-04

Submit DS-261 : 2015-06-04

Receive IV Bill : 2015-07-01

Pay IV Bill : 2015-07-05

Send IV Package : 2015-07-24

Checklist : 2015-10-06

Case Completed : 2015-11-11

Interview Date (IR-1/CR-1 Visa): 2016.01.21

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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The embassy doesnt cross check the educational certification of the applicant but the interviewer can make an idea during interview about the applicant the he responds to the questions of the interviewer and of coarse he has all the forms where an applicant states his education too along with other things if the applicant fails to display the level of communication as it is expected by a graduate level person he might take is a red flag in a sense that he lied on the forms and making it a base he can reject a case. Thats what I think other can correct me if I am wrong.

Service Center : Nebraska Service Center

Consulate : Islamabad, Pakistan

Marriage (if applicable): 2013-08-24

I-130 Sent : 2014-08-28

I-130 NOA1 : 2014-09-02

I-130 RFE : 2015-02-06

I-130 RFE Sent : 2015-02-20

I-130 Approved : 2015-03-03

NVC Received : 2015-03-28

Received DS-261 / AOS Bill : 2015-06-01

Pay AOS Bill : 2015-06-01

Send AOS Package : 2015-06-04

Submit DS-261 : 2015-06-04

Receive IV Bill : 2015-07-01

Pay IV Bill : 2015-07-05

Send IV Package : 2015-07-24

Checklist : 2015-10-06

Case Completed : 2015-11-11

Interview Date (IR-1/CR-1 Visa): 2016.01.21

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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The embassy doesnt cross check the educational certification of the applicant but the interviewer can make an idea during interview about the applicant the he responds to the questions of the interviewer and of coarse he has all the forms where an applicant states his education too along with other things if the applicant fails to display the level of communication as it is expected by a graduate level person he might take is a red flag in a sense that he lied on the forms and making it a base he can reject a case. Thats what I think other can correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, they do cross check in many instances and even make a call to a claimed school or place of employment.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Since educational qualification is irrelevant in family based petitions and cannot affect the visa eligibility. As far as I understand misrepresentation is considered to be material if the applicant would fail to obtain visa had he not lied/misrepresented about the fact. following is the excerpt from FAM with regard to misrepresentation.

"UNCLASSIFIED (U)

U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9
Visas
9 FAM 40.63 Notes Page 12 of 20
UNCLASSIFIED (U)
9 FAM 40.63 N6.3-4 Application of Phrase "Which Might Have
Resulted"
(CT:VISA-2255; 02-18-2015)
In order to sustain a finding of materiality, it must be shown that the information
foreclosed by the misrepresentation was of basic significance to the alien's
eligibility for a visa. The information concealed by the misrepresentation must,
when balanced against all the other information of record, have been controlling or
crucial to a final decision of the alien's eligibility to receive a visa. For example, if
an alien was trying to establish a residence abroad by submitting false evidence of
particular employment and it appeared that the alien had other ties meriting
favorable consideration, the misrepresentation would not be considered to be
material unless you can state categorically that, if the true facts had been known,
no visa could properly have been issued"

Though the (assumed) fake documents claims in this case would not have influenced the outcome of a visa, the fact that they were (assumed)

fake will warrant a misrepresentation. An attorney would need to argue the "material" or immaterial" aspect of it. If no attorney is involved

they usually hit you with a ban for misrepresentation and may or may not offer a waiver. An attorney is needed, this is not a DIY.

If they weren't fake then it is easy to prove that they were not once the petitioner will receive the NOID/NOIR letter from USCIS to respond to.

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Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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They cross check if they get suspicious, because if he lies about education, he may lie about other things too.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Pakistan
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haha DJ its not me my i130 is not even approved yet i m soo far from interview etc lol i do meet with many peoples every day for business and one of them give me such info

hope ur happy now :)

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Filed: FB-4 Visa Country: India
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haha DJ its not me my i130 is not even approved yet i m soo far from interview etc lol i do meet with many peoples every day for business and one of them give me such info

hope ur happy now :)

You have not disclosed...did he really lied about his education or not ? did he changed any document ?

IF yes why he did so for CR case ?

F4 - India - PD - 23rd March 2003


- Received COA 14th May 2015


- Received Visa and reached to US in Feb 2016

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Filed: Other Country: Pakistan
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so if the education does not matter in family based visa then why do they cross check from school and working places

I don,t think they cross check educational credentials in FB immigration. IR visa cannot be denied under misrepresentation simply due to lying about education. there must be some other reason. may be some previous lie about education while getting student visa in past.

There is a huge difference between immigrant and non immigrant visas. CO can make his assessment/use his discretion in NIV but not in IV. He/She has to go by law. Education cannot make a person eligible/ineligible for visa in Family Based petition. He will remain eligible even if he is illiterate. Education does not affect eligibility, therefore misrepresentation is not material in this case under the law. If this is the only reason for refusal, CO has not followed the law and it would probably be reaffirmed by USCIS. In any case the person need to hire an attorney.

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