Interviewed at Lagos today; recommended for revocation under 221g

[MrsBonsu 138]

This is heartbreaking ?, so sorry that this is happening for you, now comes a tough decision, praying for you and wishing you the best in whatever decision you make ??

[gw68ad78 64]

I'm so sorry to hear this news. Heartbroken, I've read your post several times in disbelief. Having uncovered deceptions in a previous relationship I can say, while it's quite painful now, it's always better to know the truth. Having all the facts allows you to make informed choices and decisions about your life. I think for better perspective you may want to seek the transcript of the interview if possible. Best wishes on your journey and no matter what this too shall pass.

[tomyka81 95]

I guess the question is "Did he not mention this as not important to him?" Or did he tell you in the beginning he had never applied for a visa to the US? Did he lie or just not mention it in talking?

Did he lie? I would try to find out the truth before i made a decision.

No judgements here just understand your concerns. Since you are the applicant, ask for the denial paper from USCIS when it is returned.

I know the process is hard and long but immigration has no reason to invent statements.

Thanks for the comment. But to me a lie by ommission is still a lie, especially when I directly ask are there any more applications. or in the instance of the ghanian man denied with the child and sister. We specifically talked about instances where people list children and wives on a nonimmigrant visa and then can't undo it on a spouse or fiance visa. So there were plenty of opportunities to mention this.

[tomyka81 95]

I'm so sorry to hear this news. Heartbroken, I've read your post several times in disbelief. Having uncovered deceptions in a previous relationship I can say, while it's quite painful now, it's always better to know the truth. Having all the facts allows you to make informed choices and decisions about your life. I think for better perspective you may want to seek the transcript of the interview if possible. Best wishes on your journey and no matter what this too shall pass.

I already requested that my congressman get the cover sheet for me. I did that on friday. I also demanded the usatraveldoc account information and the DS-160 from my fiance.

I am no so much upset by the revocation as I am about him lying to me all this time. A revocation and paperwork, etc I can handle if I so choose. Right now I am hurt and upset. I already have the policy and procedure on both the revocation and waiver (without a ban) procedures. I am hurt VERYYYYYYYYY. I am embarrassed. I am thinking of all the things that I could have spent my money on. I am thinking about how if I had know this upfront, I could have filed for a waiver, waited on the results, then filed a K-1. But lies have taken all that. My Black American male friend has said I am way over thinking this and that what would I do if I lived in one of the worst parts of the world?

I can't count the times that I have told my fiance that you reap what you sow or that there is no hidden thing that won't be revealed. Was he arrogant enough to believe that he was excluded from that part of the Bible. His mother even said that the proud will be brought low. Clearly all that was for everyone else not him.

[tomyka81 95]

If anyone is attempting to do a waiver themselves here is the location of precedence case law. I am not a lawyer but I have found through my job not to go for a "yes" answer but to make it almost impossible for the person making the decision to say no. So if I were to decide to do a waiver, I would make sure that my real hardship was backed up by case precedence and cite that precedence at the end of my reason along with any published statistics or irrefutable reputable literature that backs up the claim

[Boiler 45,519]

Waivers are discretionary, there is no specific pass mark, but as I have said a well prepared waiver is unlikely to fail.

[Jawaree 717]

OP real sorry this is happening, however it seem like you already is thinking about

probably walking away, it hurts & will take time to heal, I cant sit behind a computer

and recommend what you should do, also by nature I like to stay on the positive side of

hope. Please know secrecy never stop when that's the way ppl roll. Think hard, weigh

your options let common sense prevail, whats best for you,would it be marriage ???

my best wishes to you

[Sandra G. 5,047]

He lied to the Consulate in the past to get to the US and it did not work then he found another way to immigrate...to meet an American woman! , so what part of his lies you did not understand? I hope you are not willing to be deceived any longer.I wish you the best.

[Pitaya 2,577]

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[Carla V 43]

I'm sorry this happened to you... your friend told you something that could be a start of an empathy thinking towards the reason of his misrepresentation but not a reason of hiding it from you. I understand that obviously you love him, I understand that he is living in a terrible part of the world, and i can understand why he want out, I'm sure I would love to leave too... but the main thing, relationship wise is... did he hide more things? does he love you as you love him? or does he love the idea of leave? And I repeat, I'm truly heartbroken for you, dealing with lies, but also for him because it sound terribly desperate of leaving his country, I don't know what you will decide but the only thing is, analize the situation and balance what your heart and mind tell you, not letting any win, have to be a balance decision to not get hurt afterwards. Blessings for you, and him...

[Team MicVic! 46]

I have been following your case and was so convinced there would be no issues for you two at the interview. I'm sorry for your pain. If I May ask...What Was his reason for not telling you, yes I filed before and lied about having a fiance and a child because I thought that was the only way to get out? His answer would be the deal breaker. Why, why why did he not just tell you this when he was asked. I asked my hubby the same questions with an open ear and no judgment on his answer. He said no, never and he was telling the truth. What scares me is he did not tell you the truth when he had every opportunity to do so. Why?

[Unchained 37]

Its quite unfortunate this is happening to you after all the effort and wasted time on this nerve-racking journey. He really messed up for keeping such a vital(red flag) information from you knowing how it could impact on your petition.

However, I implore you not to be hasty with making a decision as this is something that needs to be thought through carefully.

It is true a lot of people lie on visa applications and I will tell you a story someone told me.

He said some years ago, his friend contracted some travel agency to help with obtaining a travel visa, they promised him 100% success if they prepared the documents and he ended up paying a total sum of $7000 for everything to be taken care of. One week before the the interview date, he had a meeting with them-this is supposed to be the day they hand him the documents and give him orientation for the upcoming interview, while he was going through the already prepared documents, he realizes there were a lot of discrepancies and false information on the documents; 1. It said he was married which was a lie because he was single 2. It said he had 2 kids which was a lie 3. It said he worked for a large corporation and was well paid which was almost a lie etc, when he asked them why, they assured him they have been in the business for years and that was the easiest, yet surest way to get the visa and that there was zero repercussion. He went for the interview and unfortunately, he was denied because IOs are trained to spot a lie which in his case were LIESSSSEESSSS!!.

The young man continued his life in his home country forgetting everything about the application and after about 6 years, he was doing really well for himself and was very successful, he decides to genuinely travel for a 7 days vacation, He filled out the application but forgot that he was supposed to be "married" and have "kids"(lol) as indicated in his last application. He went for the interview and again was denied but this time for misinterpretation of facts and was issued a 10 years ban.(this might not be your case)

The reason for writing this epistle is to let you know that a lot of bad things happen to good people and often than not our past comes to bite us in the ### even after we have turned a new leaf. my point is, because your fiancé tried to come to the US before he met you and failed does not mean he is an opportunist and is trying to use you to circumvent the system, sadly some vjers are known for "what are you doing with this guy? he is a liar, leave his ###", "what are you doing with this man, he is not good enough to be your husband-divorce him and move on","ditch your looser husband now, you deserve better","divorce him/her now and move to the shelter" and the best yet "IT IS SCAM!!!" etc, they tell you this while they keep their own spouse and I can assure you they are not better either.

Having said that, it is still very unacceptable if he purposely concealed such a vital information from you. But you should take your time and review the whole thing before making a decision. you have been with him for a while, you should know better than anybody here judging your relationship from a few paragraphs you wrote. what if he truly loves you, what if it was nonchalance or ignorance on his part, what if it is not "SCAM" and at the same time, what if it is? what if he did it on purpose? what if?

Pray and ask God for directions and I am sure he will see you through.

I wish you the best in what ever decision you make.

Godbless

[tomyka81 95]

I have been following your case and was so convinced there would be no issues for you two at the interview. I'm sorry for your pain. If I May ask...What Was his reason for not telling you, yes I filed before and lied about having a fiance and a child because I thought that was the only way to get out? His answer would be the deal breaker. Why, why why did he not just tell you this when he was asked. I asked my hubby the same questions with an open ear and no judgment on his answer. He said no, never and he was telling the truth. What scares me is he did not tell you the truth when he had every opportunity to do so. Why?

I know right. Imagine my shock when he text me not approved. I literally watched the case status change on the screen from ready to administrative processing. I was thinking in my heart that maybe they insisted on the chinese police certificate or that it had been approved. Then I am talking on the phone with him asking him to rerun the questions, becasue even with our red flags the application was a slamdunk. So when it wasn't correlating for a denial to me, my fiance finally told me that it was him. I said what do you mean. He said that i probably wouldn't ever want to speak to him again. Then he proceeds to tell me this. Why is my question exactly? I may fuss and yell and cry at the onset but after I think things through, I come around to understanding and find a solution. He knows this. Why didn't he tell me it the million dollar question??? Is he really married? Does he really have a child? Am I being used for a greencard or just to set foot on american soil? I had already gotten this man authorization on my credit card and was going to put it in the mail on friday when i just KNEW I would hear an approval. I was going to take him to my office christman party with colonels and generals UGHHHHHHJHHHHHH is all I can say. I was about to give up a great career mobilty for him. Being married to a foreigner is a quick way to be stuck as a GS-13. I was willing to be stuck as a GS-13 for the next 23 years. That is a long time to watch other people get promoted over you simply because of your choice in marriage. THAT is how much I loved this man.I am hurt and need a hug.

Its quite unfortunate this is happening to you after all the effort and wasted time on this nerve-racking journey. He really messed up for keeping such a vital(red flag) information from you knowing how it could impact on your petition.

However, I implore you not to be hasty with making a decision as this is something that needs to be thought through carefully.

It is true a lot of people lie on visa applications and I will tell you a story someone told me.

He said some years ago, his friend contracted some travel agency to help with obtaining a travel visa, they promised him 100% success if they prepared the documents and he ended up paying a total sum of $7000 for everything to be taken care of. One week before the the interview date, he had a meeting with them-this is supposed to be the day they hand him the documents and give him orientation for the upcoming interview, while he was going through the already prepared documents, he realizes there were a lot of discrepancies and false information on the documents; 1. It said he was married which was a lie because he was single 2. It said he had 2 kids which was a lie 3. It said he worked for a large corporation and was well paid which was almost a lie etc, when he asked them why, they assured him they have been in the business for years and that was the easiest, yet surest way to get the visa and that there was zero repercussion. He went for the interview and unfortunately, he was denied because IOs are trained to spot a lie which in his case were LIESSSSEESSSS!!.

The young man continued his life in his home country forgetting everything about the application and after about 6 years, he was doing really well for himself and was very successful, he decides to genuinely travel for a 7 days vacation, He filled out the application but forgot that he was supposed to be "married" and have "kids"(lol) as indicated in his last application. He went for the interview and again was denied but this time for misinterpretation of facts and was issued a 10 years ban.(this might not be your case)

The reason for writing this epistle is to let you know that a lot of bad things happen to good people and often than not our past comes to bite us in the ### even after we have turned a new leaf. my point is, because your fiancé tried to come to the US before he met you and failed does not mean he is an opportunist and is trying to use you to circumvent the system, sadly some vjers are known for "what are you doing with this guy? he is a liar, leave his ###", "what are you doing with this man, he is not good enough to be your husband-divorce him and move on","ditch your looser husband now, you deserve better","divorce him/her now and move to the shelter" and the best yet "IT IS SCAM!!!" etc, they tell you this while they keep their own spouse and I can assure you they are not better either.

Having said that, it is still very unacceptable if he purposely concealed such a vital information from you. But you should take your time and review the whole thing before making a decision. you have been with him for a while, you should know better than anybody here judging your relationship from a few paragraphs you wrote. what if he truly loves you, what if it was nonchalance or ignorance on his part, what if it is not "SCAM" and at the same time, what if it is? what if he did it on purpose? what if?

Pray and ask God for directions and I am sure he will see you through.

I wish you the best in what ever decision you make.

Godbless

I know he withheld on purpose. Thanks for the two sides though. I am still upset. I prayed that God's will be done in my life. Maybe this is it.

[dwheels76 5,468]

THAT is how much I loved this man.I am hurt and need a hug.

Awwwww sweetie I am so so sorry . Here you go from me to you.

Edited September 19, 2015 by dwheels76

[tomyka81 95]

lol