Lafayette man gets 4.5 years for possession of stolen guns

[Ban Hammer 13,696]

huh? I go quail huntin with a 410 guage shotgun...

no you don't.

.410 is a bore, not a gauge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.410_bore

Edited September 18, 2015 by charles!

[lostinblue 1,989]

also, jail time doesn't mean anything to someone hell bent on killing innocent people and taking their own life as the cops close in.

You are finally agreeing with me . If you cannot get a gun then they use a knife

Cops shoot dead Islamic extremist in Berlin after he stabs policewoman in the street

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cops-shoot-dead-islamic-extremist-6463200

or hammer

St. Louis’ Bosnian community sees hammer murder as hate crime

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/03/where-outrage-st-louis-bosnian-community-sees-hammer-murder-as-hate-crime/

Gun crime happens here and most of the time with stolen guns... In order to protect the children give them 10 years per stolen gun maybe even 20. you folks want to penalize lawful gun owners. and go soft on the folks that do the crime.. Do a crime with a stolen gun .. life in prison without parole ....

[decocker 7,198]

You are finally agreeing with me . If you cannot get a gun then they use a knife

Cops shoot dead Islamic extremist in Berlin after he stabs policewoman in the street

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cops-shoot-dead-islamic-extremist-6463200

or hammer

St. Louis’ Bosnian community sees hammer murder as hate crime

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/03/where-outrage-st-louis-bosnian-community-sees-hammer-murder-as-hate-crime/

Gun crime happens here and most of the time with stolen guns... In order to protect the children give them 10 years per stolen gun maybe even 20. you folks want to penalize lawful gun owners. and go soft on the folks that do the crime.. Do a crime with a stolen gun .. life in prison without parole ....

i don't want to penalize lawful gun owners, where do you get that idea?

i'm just saying that a long jail sentence isn't a deterrant to someone who wants to kill and commit suicide.

as a taxpayer, i feel like it is more productive to create an air of responsibility around gun ownership, requiring insurance of gun owners and a national registry. that's it. no gun grab. just an easier way of tracking some of the weapons in this country.

i don't even believe that convicted felons should be kept from ever owning guns, or vote for that matter.

i also don't believe that 4.5 years in prison is going to keep this lafayette man from breaking the law again when he gets out. that's where social support and education would step in..if there were any to speak of..you know rehabilitation? not just - hey, you're in timeout - make the pic some $$$$.

[Boiler 46,336]

When you buy a gun it is a requirement certainly in my Stats to have it recorded, background check etc.

[decocker 7,198]

When you buy a gun it is a requirement certainly in my Stats to have it recorded, background check etc.

it has to be national to be effective.

[Boiler 46,336]

State issue, not Federal.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Boiler

[decocker 7,198]

State issue, not Federal.

why do people not want a federal registry, outside of being afraid the federal government is going to use the registry to take their guns?

i've never understood that. if the government wants something from you, they're going to get it. they don't need a list.

[Boiler 46,336]

Obviously there is a great deal of distrust, but the way the US was set up basically the States should be in charge of most things apart from certain common issues such as Foreign affairs and Interstate issues.

Now admittedly the Feds have since day 1 been on a power grab.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Boiler

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Obviously there is a great deal of distrust, but the way the US was set up basically the States should be in charge of most things apart from certain common issues such as Foreign affairs and Interstate issues.

Now admittedly the Feds have since day 1 been on a power grab.

Obviously there is a great deal of distrust, but the way the US was set up basically the States should be in charge of most things apart from certain common issues such as Foreign affairs and Interstate issues.

Now admittedly the Feds have since day 1 been on a power grab.

It could be a question of practicality. For example, you have an FBI because what used to happen before was that criminals could rob a bank in one state and hide from prosecution in another.

[decocker 7,198]

ok soo, now trump wants national conceal carry.

would only make sense to unify the registry.

or is trump ultimately pulling a power grab?

In a 1,105 word policy paper released today, Trump claims support for nationwide concealed-carry permits, an end to bans on certain types of guns and magazines, and—presumably in response to the Chattanooga shooting in July—the arming of employees at military recruiting centers.

Trump also makes a vague commitment to overhauling “our mental health system” so that mass shooters are flagged and treated before they act. His support for mental health reform appears not to stem from an interest in protecting potential victims so much as it does from preventing lawful gun-owners from catching flak. “And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners?” he writes. “Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen.”

Trump’s allegiances on gun control have changed over the years, much like they have on nearly every other issue. In his 2000 book The America We Deserve, the candidate wrote in support of bans on “assault weapons”—exactly the kinds of bans he’s decrying now. “I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record,” he wrote.

http://gawker.com/trump-announces-his-second-official-position-support-f-1731708691

Now admittedly the Feds have since day 1 been on a power grab.

day one?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Law abiding gun owners get blamed for mass shootings because many of them refuse to consider any form of gun control and hide behind BS arguments about how proliferation of firearms has no connection to incidence of gun related death and crime.

And that's before you get into the whole hunting for sport thing.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Trumplestiltskin

[Boiler 46,336]

Number of guns have gone up.

Number of incidents have gone down.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Number of guns have gone up.

Number of incidents have gone down.

On your word eh?

[Sousuke 1,214]

On your word eh?

Notice that deaths fell since the 90s and have been climbing only slightly with population increases.

By the way, gun deaths won't go above car deaths, because we are seeing a surge in auto deaths in the last year or so..

To the point of background checks and registry. The checks are national now the debate regarding universal checks is more about private party transfers. If registry isn't required, i'm ok with it on the condition that a person can buy out of state. (Before a national system, they limited guns to in state purchase only because one state didn't have records of another. I find the out of state FFL purchase more of a limitation than universal background check).

With regards to registries, they don't work and yes they lead to confiscations that are not lawful. Then the person has to fight red tape that is far tougher to get through than USCIS even.

Canada gave up on long gun registration because it didnt work and it was expensive to maintain.

Edited September 18, 2015 by Sousuke

[decocker 7,198]

thanks sousuke. you always bring me back down to my cynical "there's really no point" baseline.