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what if one of your kids was suspended for a bomb threat when you'd first moved to a new country, and your kid was adamant they'd made no such threat? would you believe your own child?

the way i see it, the games being played right now are confined to the media and are stricly political. generally speaking i'm completely open to conspiracy theory, but the brietbart article reeks of a desparate attempt to justify the position that this kid deserved what he got. even if these two kids hatched an elaborate plan (spanning three years?) to prove a point to a school that mistreated them, doesn't change the clear misconduct of the school and more importantly, the police. anyway as adults we need to be looking at the adult behavior in this incident that is in need of correcting, not the kid. end of the day, it was a clock not a bomb. the school wasn't evacuated (this first and foremost tells me that the teacher didn't actually feel the clock was an immediate threat) and that makes the school and the cops look like a bunch of paranoid bigots.

My kids DO live outside the country and yes we go to great lengths not to cross these people's at times silly lines. Yes i would believe her and no I would not send a clock briefcase to the same school a couple years later. Not here and no way.

I dont think the kid did anything wrong, I do think that sending briefcase clocks to school anywhere is asking for it. If I pulled that out here they'd probably shoot me and nothing would happen to them either. The kid got shaken up a bit? Back home where he's from they shoot first investigate later.

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They're not asking for it, anymore than a woman, wearing a low cut dress is asking to be raped. We used to take all sorts of crazy science experiments to school all the time. Why is it that some here advocate that this kid was asking for trouble are the same who believe we should have guns in our schools?

I mean, even for Texas, that seems a little bit on the crazy side...

My kids DO live outside the country and yes we go to great lengths not to cross these people's at times silly lines. Yes i would believe her and no I would not send a clock briefcase to the same school a couple years later. Not here and no way.

I dont think the kid did anything wrong, I do think that sending briefcase clocks to school anywhere is asking for it. If I pulled that out here they'd probably shoot me and nothing would happen to them either. The kid got shaken up a bit? Back home where he's from they shoot first investigate later.

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My kids DO live outside the country and yes we go to great lengths not to cross these people's at times silly lines. Yes i would believe her and no I would not send a clock briefcase to the same school a couple years later. Not here and no way.

I dont think the kid did anything wrong, I do think that sending briefcase clocks to school anywhere is asking for it. If I pulled that out here they'd probably shoot me and nothing would happen to them either. The kid got shaken up a bit? Back home where he's from they shoot first investigate later.

did ahmed's parents send him to school with the clock? i know my kid is 13 and i don't check his bookbag anymore. i don't screen his pockets before he gets on the bus. if he wants to share something with me from school he does, otherwise he's definitely made it known that he wants his own privacy.

anyway america isn't supposed to be a country that shoots first and investigates later (technically, this happens in america often of course but that's another topic all together) and that's probably why ahmed's family came to this country to begin with. the possibility of a better future for their children. everyone seems to be overlooking that premise and concluding that his family came here to build suitcase bombs and train their children to do the same, take clocks that look like bombs to school to freak everyone out..that's paranoia speaking imo. paranoia and now, embarassment. cops hate to look scared. schools hate to look like anything other than protectors and educators of all their students. no one wants to be made out as a chump/bully in the national media by 9th grader.

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That is so true!!! :rofl: :rofl: And normally you shoot the engineers right after you're done hanging the marketing guys...

This would seem to leave the accountants in charge. When accountants are in charge, the net result of everything is Zero.

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They're not asking for it, anymore that a woman, wearing a low cut dress is asking to be raped. We used to take all sorts of crazy science experiments to school all the time. Why is it that some here advocate that this kid was asking for trouble are the same who believe we should have guns in our schools?

I mean, even for Texas, that seems a little bit on the crazy side...

A woman wearing a low cut dress is not asking to be raped, but a women who straps a belt of wired cylinders on and wears it to school is asking to be arrested. Do you have any more stupid analogies to share or do you get the difference?

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They're not asking for it, anymore than a woman, wearing a low cut dress is asking to be raped. We used to take all sorts of crazy science experiments to school all the time. Why is it that some here advocate that this kid was asking for trouble are the same who believe we should have guns in our schools?

A woman wearing a low cut dress is not asking to be raped, but a women who straps a belt of wired cylinders on and wears it to school is asking to be arrested. Do you have any more stupid analogies to share or do you get the difference?

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They're not asking for it, anymore than a woman, wearing a low cut dress is asking to be raped. We used to take all sorts of crazy science experiments to school all the time. Why is it that some here advocate that this kid was asking for trouble are the same who believe we should have guns in our schools?

I mean, even for Texas, that seems a little bit on the crazy side...

i understand the asking for it premise, kids today get in trouble for bringing drugs to school if their parents give them two advil to take during the school day. all the over-disciplining and freaking out over nothing, disrupting kid's lives for petty ridiculous things. i could completely see subscribing the asking for it mantra to ahmed if he had at any time joked or attempted to pursuade anyone, student or teacher, that is was a bomb. but that didn't happen..it was the adults that were alerted that it could be a bomb. and the adult actions driven by paranoia and bigotry that followed are what deserve the 'asking for it' tag..

A woman wearing a low cut dress is not asking to be raped, but a women who straps a belt of wired cylinders on and wears it to school is asking to be arrested. Do you have any more stupid analogies to share or do you get the difference?

was ahmed wearing the clock?

flavor flav would be so proud :luv:

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+100+!!!!!

It's not all that complicated, but it seems logic and reason escape some.

i understand the asking for it premise, kids today get in trouble for bringing drugs to school if their parents give them two advil to take during the school day. all the over-disciplining and freaking out over nothing, disrupting kid's lives for petty ridiculous things. i could completely see subscribing the asking for it mantra to ahmed if he had at any time joked or attempted to pursuade anyone, student or teacher, that is was a bomb. but that didn't happen..it was the adults that were alerted that it could be a bomb. and the adult actions driven by paranoia and bigotry that followed are what deserve the 'asking for it' tag..

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did ahmed's parents send him to school with the clock? i know my kid is 13 and i don't check his bookbag anymore. i don't screen his pockets before he gets on the bus. if he wants to share something with me from school he does, otherwise he's definitely made it known that he wants his own privacy.

anyway america isn't supposed to be a country that shoots first and investigates later (technically, this happens in america often of course but that's another topic all together) and that's probably why ahmed's family came to this country to begin with. the possibility of a better future for their children. everyone seems to be overlooking that premise and concluding that his family came here to build suitcase bombs and train their children to do the same, take clocks that look like bombs to school to freak everyone out..that's paranoia speaking imo. paranoia and now, embarassment. cops hate to look scared. schools hate to look like anything other than protectors and educators of all their students. no one wants to be made out as a chump/bully in the national media by 9th grader.

Who said we should ahoot first? I said if I or they made that thing in a Muslim country there is a good chance that there would be no opportunity to explain it. That's a fact. I do not believe however that it is because they are bigots, i believe it is because the one mosque too many was hit a long time ago and they just dont take chances. With that said, because it IS America this becomes nothing more than a lesson learned.

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i understand the asking for it premise, kids today get in trouble for bringing drugs to school if their parents give them two advil to take during the school day. all the over-disciplining and freaking out over nothing, disrupting kid's lives for petty ridiculous things. i could completely see subscribing the asking for it mantra to ahmed if he had at any time joked or attempted to pursuade anyone, student or teacher, that is was a bomb. but that didn't happen..it was the adults that were alerted that it could be a bomb. and the adult actions driven by paranoia and bigotry that followed are what deserve the 'asking for it' tag..

was ahmed wearing the clock?

flavor flav would be so proud :luv:

Was he carrying an electronic clock in a box? Then yes, its the same thing

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Is this a real news story or something from the figment of a Brietbart bloggers imagination?

Ahmed’s Sister Admits School Suspension for Alleged Bomb Threat 3 Years Earlier

The sister of the boy who brought a suspected hoax-bomb to his Texas high school said she was suspended from a school in a prior bomb scare. Her suspension occurred in 2009 while she was attending middle school in the same district.

Lesley Weaver, a spokeswoman for the district, said school officials can’t release any information about the 18-year-old sister’s episode because the Sudanese parents won’t sign the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, The school has already sent the form to the immigrant Sudanese parents, but they won’t sign it, she said.

The sister is named Eyman Mohamed.

“I wish we could…. provide more information to the media,” said Weaver, whose school district and local police force are now facing worldwide claims that they unfairly targeted the sister’s brother — 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed — after he was detained Sept. 14 on the suspicion that he had brought a hoax bomb into the school.

The boy brought his device — a dismantled, 120-volt clock packed inside a school box — to show off to his teachers.

The sister claimed after the arrest that she had been suspended from a school for several days. “I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with,” she said, without providing evidence or proof.

The episode occurred around 2009, she said. The scare happened in “my first year of attempting middle school in America. I knew English, but the culture was different, the people were different,” Eyman said.

“I got suspended and I didn’t do anything about it,” she said.

“When I heard about Ahmed, I was so mad because it happened to me and I didn’t get to stand up, so I’m making sure he’s standing up because it’s not right. So I’m not jealous, I’m kinda like—it’s like he’s standing for me.”

Two days after the Sept. 14 incident, President Barack Obama intervened by praising the boy, praising his clock-in-a-box, and inviting him to the White House for an October event. “Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It’s what makes America great,” Obama tweeted, effectively suggesting that Irving officials were unfair to the Muslim boy.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/

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