Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school: 'So you tried to make a bomb?'

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That could cost a lot of lives if it truly was a bomb and the school was not evacuated. Asking the science teacher is something to be done after the threat is minimized. I think the teachers talked themselves into believing it could have been a bomb, but knew there was never a serious threat to the school.

I think we can agree that the reaction was unnecessary and over the top.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I think we can agree that the reaction was unnecessary and over the top.

It depends. If the teacher truly thought it was a bomb, then the reaction wasn't nearly over the top enough. If the teacher knew it really wasn't a bomb, but embellished the story for more attention, (which is what I believed happened), then yes, it was way over the top.

[decocker 7,198]

I think Val has it right. If they really thought it was a bomb, the entire school should've been evacuated immediately and the bomb squad called in. My personal opinion is that they talked themselves into thinking it could've been a bomb after they knew it really wasn't, which is why the school was not evacuated.

my main issue is that ahmed was questioned by police for a couple hours without a guardian present.

when i was in highschool, this happened to one of my friends. he was questioned for a few hours by local police without being arrested, charged etcetc..no parent or guardian present. he was held against his will, until the cops decided to let him go, essentially for looking like a punk in public within a few weeks of a building burning down. he had done nothing wrong besides being an easy target.

cops shouldn't be allowed to bully minors.

Edited September 21, 2015 by decocker

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

They aren't allowed are they? The kids family should be able to sue the police department.

[TBoneTX 45,591]

my main issue is that ahmed was questioned by police for a couple hours without a guardian present.

cops shouldn't be allowed to bully minors.

Where's the +1,000 button?

The kids family should be able to sue the police department.

Where's the +1,000 button?

[decocker 7,198]

They aren't allowed are they? The kids family should be able to sue the police department.

no they aren't allowed. and they should sue the police department, of course you know the spin that will evolve from such a move..especially after ahmed received so much positive attention.

i don't know about ahmed but generally speaking, cops interrogating minors, bullying essentially, does not do much good for building a young person's trust of the police. i'm a pretty good example, i had quite a few run ins with dirty cops as a teen and still, to this day, cannot give cops the benefit of the doubt when their integrity is called into question. i'm skeptical of cops and pretty much always think they have a personal motive or angle for every move..and i really didn't have that prejudice until dealing with cops who believe they are above the law.

Edited September 21, 2015 by decocker

[Sousuke 1,214]

They aren't allowed are they? The kids family should be able to sue the police department.

I agree, though after reading the article I posted earlier I do have my doubts about the innocence of the whole thing. I think there is at least some chance it was a bait attempt to get a bad reaction.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I agree, though after reading the article I posted earlier I do have my doubts about the innocence of the whole thing. I think there is at least some chance it was a bait attempt to get a bad reaction.

I know Dawkins believes this, but in the absence of any evidence and charges against Ahmed, we do not know. If Ahmed chooses to sue the police and the school, the defendants can pursue this question through discovery requests and depositions. Trying him in the court of public opinion on the basis of conjecture and feelings is useless.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Surely, you're not suggesting this kid should be considered innocent until proven guilty? With a name like Ahmed Muhammad, how can he not be guilty, before the eyes of our all-forgiving and loving Christian nation?

I know Dawkins believes this, but in the absence of any evidence and charges against Ahmed, we do not know. If Ahmed chooses to sue the police and the school, the defendants can pursue this question through discovery requests and depositions. Trying him in the court of public opinion on the basis of conjecture and feelings is useless.

[Rob L 3,811]

the young man pulled this scam just so Microsoft would give him a bag of goodies..Mission Accomplished...now lets figure out how to make a bomb with this stuff

[Operator 1,927]

Those curtains are the real crime.

[decocker 7,198]

Those curtains are the real crime.

what? those curtains are dope.

[Rob L 3,811]

Those curtains are the real crime.

Don't hate on the Jeannie decor

[Darnell 8,478]

wait - he dis-assembled a working LED clock,

and attempted to remount it in a case (which, of course, he failed at).

this is really stupid.

the companies doing stuff and giving him stuff is doubly stupid.

[decocker 7,198]

If you have them that's one way to do it

right, i mean, so what if rape and murder aren't actually laughing matters. it's south park and it's trump, lowbrow politically based comedy and he's a rich scumbag so vj admin should be totally cool with it.

Edited September 24, 2015 by decocker