how to report B1/B2 visa fraud

[hdbueg 0]

who do you report when someone is working and they are clearly here just on a visitor's visa

[Transborderwife 4,666]

http://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form

(866) 347-2423

[hdbueg 0]

i filled out the form you suppose i should call too

[DNIEPU 7]

i filled out the form you suppose i should call too

No! the website states:

"Do NOT send the same information more than once, and do NOT file a duplicate report by calling the HSI Tip Line."

Edited September 14, 2015 by DNIEPU

[hdbueg 0]

ok got it. I hope they catch him and send him packing home

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Personally, I'd be more concerned about the employer. I'm not saying that nothing will happen but I wouldn't have high expectations

[Toy 18]

Personally, I'd be more concerned about the employer. I'm not saying that nothing will happen but I wouldn't have high expectations

The employer will be facing a hefty fine and sanction.

It's not about the employee working illegally alone.

[newacct 688]

Just because they may have violated their status does not mean they have committed fraud.

[KierenHby 899]

ok got it. I hope they catch him and send him packing home

Unlikely. With tight budgets, to paraphrase.. DHS has bigger fish to fry. Unlikely to raid one B1/2 overstayer. But report nonetheless!!

[KierenHby 899]

Employer is equally, if not more, complicit.

[HFM181818 750]

please report this clown...because the next B2 'tourist' might take your job....and yes, the employer is complicit, and hopefully will get fined....but it will take a while, during which time their ethically challenged immigration attorney will start drafting excuses...

[Russ&Caro 1,549]

please report this clown...because the next B2 'tourist' might take your job....and yes, the employer is complicit, and hopefully will get fined....but it will take a while, during which time their ethically challenged immigration attorney will start drafting excuses...

Wait a minute... I don't understand this. If an immigration attorney who represents an employer drafts a response that attempts to exonerate the employer in this situation, how exactly does that make him/her "ethically challenged?" We are a nation of laws where individuals and legal entities are entitled to representation when we are accused of wrongdoing. Whether we are guilty or not, we are still entitled to such representation, by law. Seems to me the immigration attorney would be doing their job correctly by drafting such responses.

I understand the bias against attorneys on a D-I-Y advice website, but I don't understand criticism of our constitutional rights.

[hdbueg 0]

this employer knows better according to visa holder. He was going to be paid in cash since he has no social security number. The employer works also is a supervisor for the Department of Human Services or Children Services if memory serves me correctly.

The both know better. The visa holder told me he is well aware that he violating his visa but does not care. He wants to stay and states the only way he can to do that is get a job so he afford what he needs.

I told him if you are not going to do this the legal way you will be caught and be deported and will not be allowed to come back ever. It seems he is only concerned with the now factor. Very sad.

[KierenHby 899]

Wait a minute... I don't understand this. If an immigration attorney who represents an employer drafts a response that attempts to exonerate the employer in this situation, how exactly does that make him/her "ethically challenged?" We are a nation of laws where individuals and legal entities are entitled to representation when we are accused of wrongdoing. Whether we are guilty or not, we are still entitled to such representation, by law. Seems to me the immigration attorney would be doing their job correctly by drafting such responses.

I understand the bias against attorneys on a D-I-Y advice website, but I don't understand criticism of our constitutional rights.

this employer knows better according to visa holder. He was going to be paid in cash since he has no social security number. The employer works also is a supervisor for the Department of Human Services or Children Services if memory serves me correctly.

The both know better. The visa holder told me he is well aware that he violating his visa but does not care. He wants to stay and states the only way he can to do that is get a job so he afford what he needs.

I told him if you are not going to do this the legal way you will be caught and be deported and will not be allowed to come back ever. It seems he is only concerned with the now factor.

In a nation of laws, every accused is entitled to constitutionally protected legal representation. As an American, I fully support that concept.

But when the accused knowingly accept breaking laws, I lose a degree of sympathy for the legal team seeking exoneration based on loopholes.

And this comes from someone (me) represented by an attorney on a D-I-Y advice website.

[HFM181818 750]

That is exactly my point...the employer knows he is violating laws by hiring foreigners without the proper visa - the ethically challenged immigration attorney will try to claim that the employer ate too many Twinkies and that his elevated blood sugar levels caused him to have blurred vision when he was examining the employee's visa, and thought it read 'H1B' instead of 'B2', or any one of two dozen excuses that are included in the immigration attorney's handbook...real facts are of little interest to immigration attorneys...they only try to dream up excuses for why their client 'overlooked' or 'misread' or forgot to start some bogus application for a (likely phony) H1B visa or something similar.

In his/her role as a defense attorney, the immigration attorney only wants to blur the lines, to find some thin straw for his/her client to grasp, to avoid fines and penalties...owning up to illegal hiring practices is the last thing that an immigration attorney would ever do or encourage the client to do...instead, just throw sand in the eyes of our government.....which is why I believe that this charlatans are in the same category as tv evangelists (borrowing a phrase from another poster)...both of these groups try to sell things they cannot legally deliver (visas & green cards, or front row seats in heaven) in exchange for obscene sums of money with absolutely no guarantee that the client will ever receive either promised result.

Immigration attorneys, as a group, do more to undermine the economic well-being of American citizens than most of you can ever imagine. They take great pride in selling out your job to anyone with money to spend in their office, regardless of the alleged qualifications or status of someone from another country.

Most of you have read this and that about how 'immigration helps America' and 'H1Bs create jobs'...if you believe either of those statements, consider moving to Greenland. While legal immigration has its merits, the problem today is that work visas are given away to anyone with a pulse; oversight is non-existent....when the USCIS has investigated H1B fraud, for example, the results are sobering, yet little is done to correct the situation. On average, 1 in 3 H1B petitions are questionable; 1 in 5 are outright fraudulent. The EB3 visa category is rife with fraud...how? Well, in order to get an approved EB3 petition, the employer has to 'prove' that NO qualified American/LPR was found, even after a 'diligent' search for said individual. Sounds good on paper, right? Except...the employer, who wants to hire somebody's cousin or friend (to save money or collect a kickback), advertises for the job in newspapers in another state or states, usually in throw away publications...never in a large, identifiable newspaper. What a surprise...if an American calls, they are told that the job is 800 miles away and that the company won't pay moving expenses...gee....who would take that job? Or, the caller is told that the job pays $8.10 per hour (in spite of the job having to have some skills!), though the paperwork submitted to USCIS claimed that the job would pay twice that...once again, the caller says 'sorry'..that person's name is recorded as 'proof' that no American wanted the job...and voila...the cousin/friend or overstayer is hired and an American worked denied opportunity.

So yes, I think very little of these 'noble practitioners'..because the only reason these people became an immigration attorney is because they could not run fast enough to keep up with ambulances.

Just one person's opinion.