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The source of sectarian violence between ISIS (Sunni) and the current Iraqi government (Shia) and between Assad in Syria (Shia) and the majority Sunnis in Syria predate all of us. Sunni/Shia conflict have nothing to do with Bush.

Arab Spring which had nothing to do with the Iraqi war was when the Syrian uprising began. Bush had nothing to do with that either. Obama Hussein was president. It's Obama's fault.

You need a profile pic if you truly want to be funny ...

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The source of sectarian violence between ISIS (Sunni) and the current Iraqi government (Shia) and between Assad in Syria (Shia) and the majority Sunnis in Syria predate all of us. Sunni/Shia conflict have nothing to do with Bush.

Arab Spring which had nothing to do with the Iraqi war was when the Syrian uprising began. Bush had nothing to do with that either. Obama Hussein was president. It's Obama's fault.

This rationale is like happening on a murder victim and suggesting that the chronic liver disease the person had in life was more of a factor in their death than the multiple gunshot wounds to vital organs. Edited by Trumplestiltskin
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Perhaps if I were to point out that America is about 239 years old, and that the Sunni and Shia sects split about 1,382 years ago, and have been fighting and killing each other ever since, then maybe it would help some realize that America has SO VERY LITTLE to do with the troubles in that region.

I'm pretty sure that America did not cause ISIL leaders to proclaim religious, political and military authority over all Muslims worldwide, and that "the legality of all emirates, groups, states, and organisations, becomes null by the expansion of the caliphate's authority and arrival of its troops to their areas". I would imagine those loony tune leaders came up with that all on their own.

Never mind, I don't think this will help, either. According to some, America is the devil, and responsible for all the evil the world over. I wonder why someone might do THAT?

Meanwhile, on the other side of the island, there are people who recognize that even if the USA never existed, there would be wars and religious malcontent in that part of the world today, just as there has been for more than 1,200 years.

What the hell? You really believe that? It's almost like you have brain washed yourself. I wonder why someone might do that?
So, what if a guy had an astigmatism? Could he see it?

Sadly it seems the other poster does believe in that nonsense, so much so s/he is repeating it, verbatim, just like s/he heard it from the talking heads.

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Perhaps if I were to point out that America is about 239 years old, and that the Sunni and Shia sects split about 1,382 years ago, and have been fighting and killing each other ever since, then maybe it would help some realize that America has SO VERY LITTLE to do with the troubles in that region.

I'm pretty sure that America did not cause ISIL leaders to proclaim religious, political and military authority over all Muslims worldwide, and that "the legality of all emirates, groups, states, and organisations, becomes null by the expansion of the caliphate's authority and arrival of its troops to their areas". I would imagine those loony tune leaders came up with that all on their own.

Never mind, I don't think this will help, either. According to some, America is the devil, and responsible for all the evil the world over. I wonder why someone might do THAT?

Meanwhile, on the other side of the island, there are people who recognize that even if the USA never existed, there would be wars and religious malcontent in that part of the world today, just as there has been for more than 1,200 years.

The phrase you are looking for is "catalyst". The Iraq war was the catalyst for subsequent events across the middle east.

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Perhaps if I were to point out that America is about 239 years old, and that the Sunni and Shia sects split about 1,382 years ago, and have been fighting and killing each other ever since, then maybe it would help some realize that America has SO VERY LITTLE to do with the troubles in that region.

I'm pretty sure that America did not cause ISIL leaders to proclaim religious, political and military authority over all Muslims worldwide, and that "the legality of all emirates, groups, states, and organisations, becomes null by the expansion of the caliphate's authority and arrival of its troops to their areas". I would imagine those loony tune leaders came up with that all on their own.

Never mind, I don't think this will help, either. According to some, America is the devil, and responsible for all the evil the world over. I wonder why someone might do THAT?

Meanwhile, on the other side of the island, there are people who recognize that even if the USA never existed, there would be wars and religious malcontent in that part of the world today, just as there has been for more than 1,200 years.

How dare you trot out such nonsense!? Literal regurgitation? (Sarcasm included)

Sounds like thou speaketh the truth.

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The phrase you are looking for is "catalyst". The Iraq war was the catalyst for subsequent events across the middle east.

No, the phrase I am trying to assist you with is PYHOOYA.

But since you brought it up, who's cat came in last in that region 500 years ago, and why were they fighting?

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Care to hazard a guess as to when ISIL was formed, and when they pledged their allegiance to Al-Qaeda?

Hint - They were not initially calling themselves the names that we know today as ISIL/ISIS.

Bonus points for knowing their 3-letter identifier back then, as well as what country they originally formed in.

Let's not guess or pretend that by a quick read of Wikipedia that we know more than we do.

I don't know why you find it so difficult to admit that the Iraq war has significantly destabilised Iraq and the wider region. It was obvious that would happen at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight.

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If you are able, please copy/paste where I said that the Iraq war wasn't destabilizing. Any maroon knows it was. However, I stated that even without the Iraq war, or America's involvement in general, there would STILL be instability, murder, and mayhem over there. And that ISIS would still exist today. Which is 100% correct, considering the group was organized PRIOR to the Iraq war.

Not really all that hard to comprehend, if one only wishes to see the truth.

 

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