Kentucky Clerk Found In Contempt For Refusing To Issue Marriage Licenses

[Sousuke 1,214]

what happens if the heathen stewardess falls ill on the flight, can the muslim stewardess simply refuse to pick up the slack and still keep her job? because in my mind, that's possible hardship to the employer.

coming from a 'right to work' state, i have a real hard time accepting that someone can refuse to do the job they were specifically hired to do - and not lose their job.

Supposedly this happened. She had an agreement with the airline but another stewardess protested her after a flight hence she was relieved. I guess you could argue she should be on a 3 person flight minimum.

[JohnR! 5,495]

As it turns out she has been released from jail and her deputies will issue marriage licenses and she her been forbidden from interfering with the process. She gets to keep her mythology and others get to live their lives.

Her 15 minutes are up...

Edited September 8, 2015 by JohnR!

[decocker 7,198]

Supposedly this happened. She had an agreement with the airline but another stewardess protested her after a flight hence she was relieved. I guess you could argue she should be on a 3 person flight minimum.

i would think that, in the service industry, any employee having a specific items they 'can't' handle or serve..would always pose a possible hardship to the employer.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

I grew up in a religious denomination that a key part of the ministrY was abstaining from alcohol. Never once was I told that I could not serve it. I really don't get her rationale.

[JohnR! 5,495]

She lacks one - that's why you don't get it. She's just a misguided unaware zealot.

I grew up in a religious denomination that a key part of the ministrY was abstaining from alcohol. Never once was I told that I could not serve it. I really don't get her rationale.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

so you think that the muslim stewardess should be handled with the special snowflake gloves and given different job requirements because of her imaginary friend's rules?

Wow, what a leap. No, I never said that. But you must admit, many on this forum and perhaps in America think that SHOULD be the way muslims should be handled.

All I was getting at is that Kim's religious beliefs should mean as much as anyone else's. The muslim stewardess should never have taken the job she did. I am fairly certain in her application process, interview, and training program, it was made clear that she would have to serve alcohol.

In Kim's case, she had the job before the requirement came up for her to go against her beliefs. Having realized the impasse, concessions could have been made (I am postulating here) that she could have been moved to a different office and kept her job, while the gay couples went merrily on their way with license in hand.

[Sousuke 1,214]

My understanding is that serving alcohol is like abetting a sin. Same thing happens with receipts. If I order alcohol while with a muslim, I keep a separate tab so that they do not feel they are helping me consume alcohol.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Sousuke

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

My understanding is that serving alcohol is like abetting a sin. Same thing happens with receipts. If I order alcohol while with a muslim, I keep a separate tab so that they do not feel they are helping me consume alcohol.

That is a very respectful way of handling the situation. Kudos to you for doing so!

[decocker 7,198]

Wow, what a leap. No, I never said that. But you must admit, many on this forum and perhaps in America think that SHOULD be the way muslims should be handled.

All I was getting at is that Kim's religious beliefs should mean as much as anyone else's. The muslim stewardess should never have taken the job she did. I am fairly certain in her application process, interview, and training program, it was made clear that she would have to serve alcohol.

In Kim's case, she had the job before the requirement came up for her to go against her beliefs. Having realized the impasse, concessions could have been made (I am postulating here) that she could have been moved to a different office and kept her job, while the gay couples went merrily on their way with license in hand.

kim's religious beliefs shouldn't matter at all. as long as someone in her office is issuing all marriage licenses without issue, it doesn't matter what other job she does. but she was still found in contempt of court, the ruling didn't apply just to county clerk who agreed with it. so she had to spend a few days in jail because of her beliefs. she's not the first. not like it matters one bit in the big scheme of things.

obviously i'm not a religious person, i have little tolerance for people insisting their personal beliefs make them special.

[decocker 7,198]

My understanding is that serving alcohol is like abetting a sin. Same thing happens with receipts. If I order alcohol while with a muslim, I keep a separate tab so that they do not feel they are helping me consume alcohol.

working for an airline that profits from the sale of alcohol, that pays the salary of someone who refuses to serve alcohol..

makes my head hurt.

[Póg mo 1,749]

the real problem as i see it is religious extremists who think they're above the law. davis doesn't agree with gay marraige and now she (and huckabee) are letting everyone know what has long been taught in evangelical churches..god's law is above all else, and god's law is all they're accountable to.

I just don't understand is, why aren't these idiots able to understand the difference between a religious ceremony held in front of a priest etc, and the ceremony to have a marriage legally recognized. I.e people get divorced all the time, but for example the Catholic church is under no obligation to accept the divorce.

[decocker 7,198]

I just don't understand is, why aren't these idiots able to understand the difference between a religious ceremony held in front of a priest etc, and the ceremony to have a marriage legally recognized. I.e people get divorced all the time, but for example the Catholic church is under no obligation to accept the divorce.

the common refrain is that we are in the end times. one of the sure fire signs is the legalization of marriages that aren't the bible based adam and eve types. its a mixture of fear and wanting to be on the right side of god.

[JohnR! 5,495]

In other words: SSDD...

the common refrain is that we are in the end times. one of the sure fire signs is the legalization of marriages that aren't the bible based adam and eve types. its a mixture of fear and wanting to be on the right side of god.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Someone said elsewhere that she can't be fired because she is an elected official.

[decocker 7,198]

Someone said elsewhere that she can't be fired because she is an elected official.

correct.

also, mee too!!: