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OP the congressperson/Senators cant speed up the process or dictate USCIS decision

A stokes interview meant they seem to believe areas need to be investigated, & you sending 3

birth certs again seem the case ain't wrapped too tight, also as a Canadian one would not

need a visa to the US without a reason

As previously stated, Canadians now get a b1/2 at poe when flying out of a preclearance airport

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Stokes are never random. From one of your other threads you said that they told you that you didn't have enough evidence. That's not a random stokes.

If you keep reading, the reason was not enough evidence. We had more than enough. Joint bank account, joint credit cards, pictures together on trips to Vegas and Hawaii. Everything they ask for, plus some. Another user was saying it's random sometimes.

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How long did it take u too get a letter on what they needed ???

They gave me the letter when the interview was over. I had a birth certificate but it was just wallet sized. I called USCIS before the interview and they said that's perfectly fine. Found out at the interview that I needed the long form with my parents names on it.

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O ok because my fiancé interview they only asked police report and doctor envelope and bank statements from both and visa conf but seen pictures that's it and didn't ask for nothing more but he got a letter saying being send to NVC for a review pending under section 221 g

So I am confused wish I had answers what they need or what's wrong they didn't say nothing even when my fiancé asked just the letter

Wondering how long I have to wait for what they need that's why I asked thought maybe u got a letter in Mail on what they want , it's only been 3 weeks since he had his interview

Ok best of luck to you two

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They gave me the letter when the interview was over. I had a birth certificate but it was just wallet sized. I called USCIS before the interview and they said that's perfectly fine. Found out at the interview that I needed the long form with my parents names on it.

I'm curious as to why they waited until the stokes interview to tell you you needed the long form birth cert. Did they not tell you at your first interview?

Could you not make an infopass appointment to conact them again? When you were asked if you took the Birth Cert to an info pass appointment, you just said the guy wasn't helpful. You should probably make another info pass appointment, for all you know everything was sent to the wrong place.

They also probably didn't realize the birth certificate difference, in canada, the only way you get the long form is if you're purposely seeking it out, but it is needed for ALL immigration purposes, K1, spousal, AOS, etc. In America, the long form is the normal form.

I'd say this is because you married on a visitor visa/POE visa issuance/whatever. While people like to think there are no repercussions and that it's okay to do, it really isn't, I think you may have found one of the repercussions.

Clearly at your first interview you couldn't convince them you're a legit couple, and yes, things like joint accounts and pictures and what not is helpful, but it doesn't really convince of being a real couple, yes it shows you're married, but it doesn't mean you're a legit married couple in love with each other, just means you commingle finances, a lot of people can play it off like they're a good real couple, something flagged you guys at the interview that made them think other wise, be it not enough info or questions being answered wrong. STOKES are not random, they're also known as the marriage fraud interview. They think somethings up with your case, so they're going to be extensively looking into it.

Do a quick search through VJ, you'll find out that STOKES interviews, at least for VJ goers is not common at all. Generally everyone here has accepted that stokes are usually given as a reason to deny. Doing google searching there are people saying it took them a year or more to clear up everything. Some people are claiming in Feb 2012, that they had their stokes interview August 2011 and still waiting on info.

Again though, we're basing details off your past posts. You came in and married on a visitor visa, you went for AOS, You had an interview, got flagged due to "not enough evidence"(Not being able to convince them you're a legit couple), and then at the SECOND interview they finally realize your BC isn't the right one and now you're wondering why it's taking so long. It's kinda shady, I'd do everything I could to make sure what they asked for got into their hands, be it multiple info pass appointments, contacting hire ups, whatever it takes. I wouldn't skip to getting a senator.

Sorry for the length, but I'm unsure of this as most of everyone else is. If we're not very confident that this is true or that you are trying to not omit details, I'd have to imagine the people you interviewed with felt the same way. It just feels like there's a lot of missing info, info that's probably really important too.

When was your FIRST interview?

When was your SECOND interview?

Had you applied for anything else between those?

Did they ever give you anything requesting the documents?

Have you been able to confirm 100% they have the documents you think they needed?

Have you done another infopass appointment to talk to someone about this?

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06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
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I'd say this is because you married on a visitor visa/POE visa issuance/whatever. While people like to think there are no repercussions and that it's okay to do, it really isn't, I think you may have found one of the repercussions.

Highly unlikely this is the case. There's something we're not being told here.

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Our first and second interviews were 2 hours apart. Birth certificate was the only thing I needed to get back to them. I didn't apply for anything else in between. I can't confirm they got the birth certificate since I haven't heard a word from them since the interview. I explained this to the senator and he made an inquiry so I'm sure they now know if for some reason they never got it or it went to the wrong desk. We're so down on Infopass, it's hard for my wife to take a day off, travel an hour both ways just to get no information at all. He didn't even know we had our interview already.

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Highly unlikely this is the case. There's something we're not being told here.

Everything is being told. That's the whole reason it's so baffling. Everyone we talk to about it can't believe it's taking so long. We were told flat out by the stokes interviewer that the interview went fine and my greencard would be processing a few weeks after they receive my birth certificate. Edited by 10pmStalker
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Our first and second interviews were 2 hours apart. Birth certificate was the only thing I needed to get back to them. I didn't apply for anything else in between. I can't confirm they got the birth certificate since I haven't heard a word from them since the interview. I explained this to the senator and he made an inquiry so I'm sure they now know if for some reason they never got it or it went to the wrong desk. We're so down on Infopass, it's hard for my wife to take a day off, travel an hour both ways just to get no information at all. He didn't even know we had our interview already.

I didn't think they did the interviews that fast. Generally you get a letter telling you when the second is going to be, most peoples seem to be a month or so after the first interview.

Just from searching prior posts of yours here you:

  • Came into the US for 30 days on a visitor visa, had a return flight.
  • Stayed for four months then got married
  • Sent in a I-130, in July 2014 but did NOT send in I-485 at the time
  • Asked a lot in the forums about the chances of you getting denied a green card as a canadian
  • You sent in the I-485 AFTER your I-130 was approved at least AFTER or within Oct 2014
  • You had your interviews in Feburary 2015
  • And then you asked about applying for Advance Parole a couple of months after your interviews.
  • You sent in 1 birth cert that didn't get delivered and you couldn't remember your IO's name.
  • You added "floor two" to the package, and someone signed for it, but you have no conformation other than someone (most likely the mail boy) signed for it, this was in April.
  • People told you numerous times to physically take it to the lockbox, which is when you mentioned you couldn't remember the IO's name.
  • You said you've called USCIS before and the only info they give you are the same stuff you can find online.

People have been asking you to fill out your timeline since May 2014. You always say you don't have time, or it's too scattered to fill out. Then the same questions always come up because you don't provide any details. Every time you post about a gov worker, you say that they're useless or don't know what you're talking about, or that it goes no where and is a waste of your time.

Also, this is from another thread of yours:

"I still haven't heard anything from uscis. It wasn't being accepted to the address that was on the return paper so I called usps and had them add Floor 2 since that's the floor my interview was on. Also put the Field Office Director's name on it. I don't know if this caused confusion and maybe it's sitting in a pile not being looked at?"

I honestly don't think they have your birth certificate. If you have no proof that they have your birth certificate, then you need assume they don't.

What does your case status show? You said you had 87 days to give them your birth cert from your interview in Feb, it's well past the 87 day, which would have been in May.

It's just hard for me to believe you aren't more on this or that you aren't omitting detail. I understand it's hard for your wife to get off work but you have to do what you have to do. And when one person isn't helpful that shouldn't just make you blow off the whole concept of making a new infopass appointment.

  • You need to make an infopass appointment again, wether you like it or not.
  • You need to confirm they have your birth cert.
  • If you can't confirm that you need to find SOMETHING with your IO's name on it and physically take your Birth Cert down to the physical lock box and drop it off like people had said.
  • Chances are though, you're in trouble if they don't have it and you're dropping it off 4 months after the "we want it by" date.

Good luck, but tbqh, none of us can help you when it doesn't really look like you're doing anything to help yourself. Over the past months, and even year, you've been given advice and then ignored that advice for months (When people told you you need to do I-485 months before you did it, people told you you need to show up in person to places to get the ball rolling, etc).

I wish you the best of luck, and I hope for yourself and your wife, that this all works out great, and from there on out you need to treat every other part of removal of conditions and what ever else you wish to do when it comes to anything VERY SERIOUSLY and INCREDIBLY TIMELY and DONE PROPERLY.

Edited by Ash.1101

*More detailed timeline in profile!*
 
Relationship:     Friends since 2010, Together since 2013

 K-1:   2015 Done in 208 days - 212g for Second Cosponsor    

Spoiler

04/27/15- NOA1 Recieved                                                    
06/02/15 - NOA2 Recieved
09/22/15 - Interview       (221g for more documents (a SECOND cosponsor), see profile for more details!)                                            
11/09/15 -  ISSUED!!                                                              
11/10/15 - Passport received                                                
02/20/16 - Wedding!              

                                         
 AOS:   2016 Done in 77 days - No RFE, No Interview                                                                    

Spoiler

04/08/16 - I-485, I-765, I-131 AOS Application recieved by USCIS
04/12/16 - 3 NOA1's received in mail
05/14/16 - Biometrics for AOS and EAD
06/27/16 - I-485 Case to changed to "New Card being produced"  (Day 77)
06/27/16 - I-485 Case changed to Approved! (Day 77)
06/30/16 - I-485 Case changed to "My Card has been mailed to me!"
07/05/16 - Green Card received in mail! 

 


ROC:   2018 - 2019 Done in 326 days - No RFE, No Interview

Spoiler

 

05/09/18 - Mailed out ROC to CSC

05/10/18 - CSC Signed and received ROC package
06/07/28 - NOA1 

06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
10/22/18 - Official 18 month extension received 

02/27/19 - Biometrics waived 

04/29/19 - New card being produced!
05/09/19 - USPS delivered green card! In hand now!

 

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I didn't think they did the interviews that fast. Generally you get a letter telling you when the second is going to be, most peoples seem to be a month or so after the first interview.

Just from searching prior posts of yours here you:

  • Came into the US for 30 days on a visitor visa, had a return flight.
  • Stayed for four months then got married
  • Sent in a I-130, in July 2014 but did NOT send in I-485 at the time
  • Asked a lot in the forums about the chances of you getting denied a green card as a canadian
  • You sent in the I-485 AFTER your I-130 was approved at least AFTER or within Oct 2014
  • You had your interviews in Feburary 2015
  • And then you asked about applying for Advance Parole a couple of months after your interviews.
  • You sent in 1 birth cert that didn't get delivered and you couldn't remember your IO's name.
  • You added "floor two" to the package, and someone signed for it, but you have no conformation other than someone (most likely the mail boy) signed for it, this was in April.
  • People told you numerous times to physically take it to the lockbox, which is when you mentioned you couldn't remember the IO's name.
  • You said you've called USCIS before and the only info they give you are the same stuff you can find online.
People have been asking you to fill out your timeline since May 2014. You always say you don't have time, or it's too scattered to fill out. Then the same questions always come up because you don't provide any details. Every time you post about a gov worker, you say that they're useless or don't know what you're talking about, or that it goes no where and is a waste of your time.

Also, this is from another thread of yours:

"I still haven't heard anything from uscis. It wasn't being accepted to the address that was on the return paper so I called usps and had them add Floor 2 since that's the floor my interview was on. Also put the Field Office Director's name on it. I don't know if this caused confusion and maybe it's sitting in a pile not being looked at?"

I honestly don't think they have your birth certificate. If you have no proof that they have your birth certificate, then you need assume they don't.

What does your case status show? You said you had 87 days to give them your birth cert from your interview in Feb, it's well past the 87 day, which would have been in May.

It's just hard for me to believe you aren't more on this or that you aren't omitting detail. I understand it's hard for your wife to get off work but you have to do what you have to do. And when one person isn't helpful that shouldn't just make you blow off the whole concept of making a new infopass appointment.

  • You need to make an infopass appointment again, wether you like it or not.
  • You need to confirm they have your birth cert.
  • If you can't confirm that you need to find SOMETHING with your IO's name on it and physically take your Birth Cert down to the physical lock box and drop it off like people had said.
  • Chances are though, you're in trouble if they don't have it and you're dropping it off 4 months after the "we want it by" date.
Good luck, but tbqh, none of us can help you when it doesn't really look like you're doing anything to help yourself. Over the past months, and even year, you've been given advice and then ignored that advice for months (When people told you you need to do I-485 months before you did it, people told you you need to show up in person to places to get the ball rolling, etc).

I wish you the best of luck, and I hope for yourself and your wife, that this all works out great, and from there on out you need to treat every other part of removal of conditions and what ever else you wish to do when it comes to anything VERY SERIOUSLY and INCREDIBLY TIMELY and DONE PROPERLY.

I get that it's hard to believe that I'm not giving all details. Seems crazy right? Try bring put through it first hand, it's tough. My case status still says interview is scheduled. I will schedule another info pass and let you guys know how it turns out.

I can see you guys and girls are really annoyed at me but I really appreciate your help.

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Quick update: Some USCIS agents knocked on the door at 5am, the house was quite a mess. I hope that doesn't sway their opinion as it's not always bad. They were here for about 45 minutes. They asked us normal questions together and separately. We asked how it went, they said it went well and she will put the file through tomorrow. We're still pretty nervous. Would they say it's all good if it wasn't?

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Well they do have the authority to lie but hopefully this isn't the case.

This just confirms their suspicion of a possibly fraudulent relationship as people have been trying to tell you previously.

Yep, already knew that. The question is why? She did ask the age of my wife, who is 10 years older. She also questioned why we filed so quickly after marriage which I thought was a little strange. Guess it doesn't really matter if they said everything is good.

Has anyone been told its all good then have problems after an interview?

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