Virginia TV journalists killed in on-air shooting; suspect shoots self

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

It's been said that a few posters here do everything with blue steel strapped to their waists, including showering, sunbathing on the beaches of Ankara and sex with Ukranian super models.

someone's pulling your leg.....blue finish will rust

[JohnR! 5,495]

I believe they don't fly at all. The presence of female flight attendants and the occasional gay flight attendant only compounds the fear of not being armed. Airplanes are a scary place for these types. In addition, some airlines even have female captains now!

One poster displayed a pic of the gun in the shower. Others type out paragraphs talking about a subject they couldn't care less about(funny enough) and make sure you know they are strapped while typing this.

I still don't know how some of these people fly on airplanes since the very thought of being unarmed terrifies them.

Edited September 1, 2015 by JohnR!

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

• Simply put, taking away the symbols that unify our community would skyrocket the suicide rate is what I labeled as unstable

There seems to be a large amount of unstable gay folks if this is true. Would being gay and unstable be correlated . Any studies out there that back up this assessment ?

We're not unstable, as a whole. We're human. Isolation negatively affects the psychiatric health of humans. Every single study on human development agrees on this. And adversely affected psychiatric health does not actually automatically mean instability, just FYI.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Here's the deal

Simply put, taking away the symbols that unify our community would skyrocket the suicide rate.

That's what I read and that's what you said. The rest of the above is fluff. If this community is (really) living that close to the edge of suicide (which I doubt but you said it) then that is indicative of mental instability.

Those who are mentally unstable (for any reason) rightly deserve to be locked up and certainly are not entitled to open-armed acceptance.

Not singling any one community out - comments apply to all suicidal nutjobs. We have a few around here. I don't want them around my home, family, or workplace either.

As to religious extremist rule you don't have a clue. Just saying.

It's not that hard to understand if you could see things from their perspective. Gay people have to live with the stigma of being different pretty much in the same vein that people of color have been dealing with since day one. They were beaten up and murdered just for that reason alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_LGBT_youth

LGBT teens and young adults have one of the highest rates of suicide attempts. According to some groups, this is linked to heterocentric cultures and institutionalised homophobia in some cases, including the use of rights and protections for LGBT people as a political wedge issue like in the contemporary efforts to halt legalising same-sex marriages.^[9][10][11]Depression and drug use among LGBT people have both been shown to increase significantly after new laws that discriminate against gay people are passed.^[12]

They're no more mentally unstable than the next person, but when you're dealing with family that turns it's back on you, loss of friends, bullying, and a culture that says being gay is the ULTIMATE sin that should be punishable by death, it can be a bit much. And that's on a good day. Not to mention the GOP keeps trying to make laws that allow businesses to openly discriminate against them. One California lawyer took it further and tried to push for a law to legally kill anyone who identified as gay. http://www.mediaite.com/online/california-lawyer-pushes-proposition-to-make-it-legal-to-kill-gay-people/

Take a stroll over to the Trans community. Outside of Caitlyn Jenner and Laverne Cox, the disdain those ladies have to deal with is astounding. They get killed off and the cops couldn't care less. Hell, the cops sometimes harass them.

http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2015/08/13/lgbt-community-tells-detroit-police-translivesmatter

Fewer than 50 percent of crimes against LGBT residents are reported, according to Siferd, who said those who do report crimes are often subjected to ridicule and abuse by police officers.

Sometimes, a little bit of empathy is all that is needed.

[TBoneTX 45,266]

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[Expat1 971]

It's not that hard to understand if you could see things from their perspective. Gay people have to live with the stigma of being different pretty much in the same vein that people of color have been dealing with since day one. They were beaten up and murdered just for that reason alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_LGBT_youth

LGBT teens and young adults have one of the highest rates of suicide attempts. According to some groups, this is linked to heterocentric cultures and institutionalised homophobia in some cases, including the use of rights and protections for LGBT people as a political wedge issue like in the contemporary efforts to halt legalising same-sex marriages.^[9][10][11]Depression and drug use among LGBT people have both been shown to increase significantly after new laws that discriminate against gay people are passed.^[12]

They're no more mentally unstable than the next person, but when you're dealing with family that turns it's back on you, loss of friends, bullying, and a culture that says being gay is the ULTIMATE sin that should be punishable by death, it can be a bit much. And that's on a good day. Not to mention the GOP keeps trying to make laws that allow businesses to openly discriminate against them. One California lawyer took it further and tried to push for a law to legally kill anyone who identified as gay. http://www.mediaite.com/online/california-lawyer-pushes-proposition-to-make-it-legal-to-kill-gay-people/

Take a stroll over to the Trans community. Outside of Caitlyn Jenner and Laverne Cox, the disdain those ladies have to deal with is astounding. They get killed off and the cops couldn't care less. Hell, the cops sometimes harass them.

http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2015/08/13/lgbt-community-tells-detroit-police-translivesmatter

Fewer than 50 percent of crimes against LGBT residents are reported, according to Siferd, who said those who do report crimes are often subjected to ridicule and abuse by police officers.

Sometimes, a little bit of empathy is all that is needed.

I no more owe them the courtesy of seeing things from their perspective than I owe the suicidal wanna-be jihadis that live over here. Do you read what you write before you post it? "People don't like me so I'll help them out and off myself". Bunk. Suicide is a personal choice. As in the topic at hand suicidal people often want to or don't care who goes out with them. That's a fact and that's why they are considered dangerous to themselves and others and that's why they get locked up until they work it out.

YOU take a stroll over to the Trans community. You see the hiv rates? 18% in the US. 40% in Asia. Can you force a community as a whole to care about or take care of themselves? Is that also because "people don't like me"? No. It isn't. Empathy won't fix that, and empathy won't fix anyone who looks in the mirror, hates the person they were born as, mutilates himself or herself so they can be what they think they are but aren't and never can be, and still can't deal with it.

Suicide and self-loathing ARE related and are dealt with inside, not outside and I can very well see how being reminded of the reality of this "I want to be this but I was born that" adds to that self-loathing. Though you and others might not see it accepting oneself as who they are is a nice start to dealing with that issue.

Last word from my side on this. I was just replying to the nutty comment. No combination of words, sentences, thoughts, or letters will turn "take my flag and I'll off myself" into a sane or acceptable action.

Edited September 2, 2015 by Expat1

[Expat1 971]

We're not unstable, as a whole. We're human. Isolation negatively affects the psychiatric health of humans. Every single study on human development agrees on this. And adversely affected psychiatric health does not actually automatically mean instability, just FYI.

Took your comment at face value. Your comment implies that you are. If it's not true, don't say it. If it is true, it's not OK. Sorry.