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Classic case of if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen affair. These people broke their marital vows and flip when they are discovered. The people that suffer in a suicide are the ones left behind not the weak fool that did it.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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A little human compassion people. Making jokes about suicides is not cool.

It's good that adultery 'costs'.

Who says anyone's joking?

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There's something wrong with people who get a kick out of this.

Who says anyone's getting a kick out of it?

I just fail to feel sympathy for people who bring trouble on to themselves. Actions have consequences.

These aren't people who have met by chance and started an affair, that's still wrong but these things happen.

These are people who have actively gone out looking to cheat on their spouses and are paying the consequences.

No unnecessary deaths are good, but I have no sympathy for those who bring it on themselves.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Who says anyone's getting a kick out of it?

I just fail to feel sympathy for people who bring trouble on to themselves. Actions have consequences.

These aren't people who have met by chance and started an affair, that's still wrong but these things happen.

These are people who have actively gone out looking to cheat on their spouses and are paying the consequences.

No unnecessary deaths are good, but I have no sympathy for those who bring it on themselves.

I really don't think it's appropriate to level a moral judgement against anyone who commits suicide.

BTW the word you should be using here is empathy, not sympathy. They are different things.

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I really don't think it's appropriate to level a moral judgement against anyone who commits suicide.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that

BTW the word you should be using here is empathy, not sympathy. They are different things.

Nope, none of that either

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Sure. I just don't see the point in rendering arbitrary judgements against strangers whose lives and circumstances you don't know. But there you go.

Also, despite the Kenyan Muslim usurper still being in office, we don't live under Sharia law and death is not the punishment for adultery.

I have nothing but scorn for cheaters. They bring it upon themselves. But it's crass, tacky and frankly inhuman to nod grimly and say, "yeah, that's an outcome I can live with" if a cheater takes his or her own life rather than face the consequences. Nobody wins, not even the spouse left behind.

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Also, despite the Kenyan Muslim usurper still being in office, we don't live under Sharia law and death is not the punishment for adultery.

I have nothing but scorn for cheaters. They bring it upon themselves. But it's crass, tacky and frankly inhuman to nod grimly and say, "yeah, that's an outcome I can live with" if a cheater takes his or her own life rather than face the consequences. Nobody wins, not even the spouse left behind.

Cheating is usually a symptom of other things - people who aren't happy with their lives for whatever reason. My former spouse cheated, but that wasn't the cause of it not working out as much as the final nail in the coffin. She had a lot of issues, I don't hold a grudge against her for it and 6 years on everyone is in a better place.

Anyway, suicide. It's an awful mindset to be in to think that offing yourself is the way out. No problem is insurmountable and it's awful that people think that it is. That's why I don't understand people who project their own moral judgements onto others.

You can only understand other people by removing your own agenda from the equation. A lot of people here aren't willing to do that.

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Cheating is usually a symptom of other things - people who aren't happy with their lives for whatever reason. My former spouse cheated, but that wasn't the cause of it not working out as much as the final nail in the coffin. She had a lot of issues, I don't hold a grudge against her for it and 6 years on everyone is in a better place.

Anyway, suicide. It's an awful mindset to be in to think that offing yourself is the way out. No problem is insurmountable and it's awful that people think that it is. That's why I don't understand people who project their own moral judgements onto others.

You can only understand other people by removing your own agenda from the equation. A lot of people here aren't willing to do that.

Because folks can't see past their own hatred. I personally think it's sad these folks thought ending their own life was the only answer.

Birthers - get over it.

They won't. It's the only thing that makes him in the WH bearable.

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Also, despite the Kenyan Muslim usurper still being in office, we don't live under Sharia law and death is not the punishment for adultery.

I have nothing but scorn for cheaters. They bring it upon themselves. But it's crass, tacky and frankly inhuman to nod grimly and say, "yeah, that's an outcome I can live with" if a cheater takes his or her own life rather than face the consequences. Nobody wins, not even the spouse left behind.

Cheater does not equal death.

I am saying no one forced him to cheat, nor forced him to kill himself. He should have thought about the consequences of his actions first before he acted. He could have also chose to face his family and wife instead of leaving them with a bunch of unanswered questions. His family will slowly get over his death and in time move on. However, if it wasn't for his death, she would have maybe stayed in an unstable marriage for a very long time.

I am a child of a cheating father. I know the damage this does to the family. If it wasn't for my father passing away, my mom would have continued to stay. She stayed through 25 years of cheating, other kids, physical and mental abuse.

Not celebrating the guy's death, just saying maybe the family can improve their life now.

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