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"Why do people think Islam is a violent religion? "

What makes you think its (specifically and directly) religion and not the historical / social factors that pertain to many ME countries?

It would be foolish to deny that it doesn't play a part, but I think its one piece of a fairly complex puzzle.

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too add to your post....the ME has the minority of muslims in the world and it is the area where those who have a bias always point too...:

Largest Muslim Populations in the World

Rank Country Muslim Population

1 Indonesia 182,570,000

2 Pakistan 134,480,000

3 India 121,000,000

4 Bangladesh 114,080,000

5 Turkey 65,510,000

6 Iran 62,430,000

7 Egypt 58,630,000

8 Nigeria 53,000,000

9 Algeria 30,530,000

10 Morocco

hmmm..where is a ME country at??????

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too add to your post....the ME has the minority of muslims in the world and it is the area where those who have a bias always point too...

So, true! Arabs are only about 18% of all Muslims, and many Arabs are Christian or Jewish. The ME is a powder keg, yes, but the problesm are complex and encompass many factors, religion being a minor part. Historical perspective, politics and ego in the guise of religion is a primary problem.

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I still don't understand why you're blaming Islam. That's the easy way out, you know.

I don't know exactly why Islam and violence go hand in hand. I just know that they do. There is evidence daily in any media outlet you look at. Read Al Jazeera even. The majority of Germans in ww2 were not in the Nazi party or believed in what the Nazis were doing. But they were swept up in it all by an extremist minority. Sound familar?

Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

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too add to your post....the ME has the minority of muslims in the world and it is the area where those who have a bias always point too...:

Largest Muslim Populations in the World

Rank Country Muslim Population

1 Indonesia 182,570,000

2 Pakistan 134,480,000

3 India 121,000,000

4 Bangladesh 114,080,000

5 Turkey 65,510,000

6 Iran 62,430,000

7 Egypt 58,630,000

8 Nigeria 53,000,000

9 Algeria 30,530,000

10 Morocco

hmmm..where is a ME country at??????

Unfortunately, these numbers are...GROSSLY WRONG!!!

that number for India would be a 1987 estimate, that mentioned for Pakistan around 1996.

The number for India in 1991 was about 157 million, 2001 about 179 million (unofficial estimate closer to 201-219 million, meaning India displaces Indonesia). Muslim population of India has always exceeded that of (erstwhile West) Pakistan since Partition.

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Perhaps because some people (who don't understand the full picture what is going on - and don't really want to) continually resort to broad brush generalisations to back up their claims, which I believe make those claims (for them) easier to swallow :whistle:

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I still don't understand why you're blaming Islam. That's the easy way out, you know.

I don't know exactly why Islam and violence go hand in hand. I just know that they do. There is evidence daily in any media outlet you look at. Read Al Jazeera even. The majority of Germans in ww2 were not in the Nazi party or believed in what the Nazis were doing. But they were swept up in it all by an extremist minority. Sound familar?

Ah, so you agree with this exercise in ignorance and fear, then.

How can one claim God cares to judge a fornicator over judging a lying, conniving bully? I guess you would if you are the lying, conniving bully.

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Let's see. Your statement about the majority of terrorists being Muslim has only been true in the last couple years with the violence within Iraq. So this radicalizing has happened, a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course, that now truly the majority of terrorists are Muslim, because of what goes on in Iraq. Outside of Iraq, the answer is no, the majority of terrorists are not Muslim.

How can one claim God cares to judge a fornicator over judging a lying, conniving bully? I guess you would if you are the lying, conniving bully.

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Let's see. Your statement about the majority of terrorists being Muslim has only been true in the last couple years with the violence within Iraq. So this radicalizing has happened, a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course, that now truly the majority of terrorists are Muslim, because of what goes on in Iraq. Outside of Iraq, the answer is no, the majority of terrorists are not Muslim.

It was happening before Iraq and you know it. The bold part is wrong too.

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Ah, so you agree with this exercise in ignorance and fear, then.

Sure. Extremists exploit people through fear and ignorance.

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Let's see. Your statement about the majority of terrorists being Muslim has only been true in the last couple years with the violence within Iraq. So this radicalizing has happened, a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course, that now truly the majority of terrorists are Muslim, because of what goes on in Iraq. Outside of Iraq, the answer is no, the majority of terrorists are not Muslim.

It was happening before Iraq and you know it. The bold part is wrong too.

Ok, show some stats then, pre Iraq invasion of the demographics of terrorists in the 20th century.

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How can one claim God cares to judge a fornicator over judging a lying, conniving bully? I guess you would if you are the lying, conniving bully.

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Let's see. Your statement about the majority of terrorists being Muslim has only been true in the last couple years with the violence within Iraq. So this radicalizing has happened, a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course, that now truly the majority of terrorists are Muslim, because of what goes on in Iraq. Outside of Iraq, the answer is no, the majority of terrorists are not Muslim.

It was happening before Iraq and you know it. The bold part is wrong too.

Ok, show some stats then, pre Iraq invasion of the demographics of terrorists in the 20th century.

Here's from 9/11 to 12/31/2003. You can deduct most of 2003 but there are still too many to post here.

Islamic terrorism 9/11/01 to 12/31/03

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Islamic Terrorism – Is it a New Threat?

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Something I've said many times but you people ignore "the majority of Muslims are peaceful but the majority of terrorism is done by Muslims". Overcoming denial in that statement is the first step. Liberals tend to hear "all Muslims are terrorists" when that statement is made.

Let's see. Your statement about the majority of terrorists being Muslim has only been true in the last couple years with the violence within Iraq. So this radicalizing has happened, a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course, that now truly the majority of terrorists are Muslim, because of what goes on in Iraq. Outside of Iraq, the answer is no, the majority of terrorists are not Muslim.

It was happening before Iraq and you know it. The bold part is wrong too.

Ok, show some stats then, pre Iraq invasion of the demographics of terrorists in the 20th century.

Here's from 9/11 to 12/31/2003. You can deduct most of 2003 but there are still too many to post here.

Islamic terrorism 9/11/01 to 12/31/03

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Islamic Terrorism – Is it a New Threat?

Nice try, come back with real statistics from reputable academic or political institutions' studies. And I didn't ask how many Islamic terror activitites happened, I asked for the demographics of ALL TERRORISTS of the 20th century. In case that is unclear, what is the nationality, ethnicity, age, gender, religion of ALL TERRORISTS?

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How can one claim God cares to judge a fornicator over judging a lying, conniving bully? I guess you would if you are the lying, conniving bully.

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There are more objective sources than that one. All they do is place the word "Muslim" in the description of the incident and it becomes "Islamic terrorism". If we described all crimes by the religion of their perpetrators, we'd be besiged by Christian violence. Give me a break!

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Indeed, half of the participants in these wars are Christian. So it's the Christian imperialist powers vs. the Muslim terrorists?

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