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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hey there, fellow Canadians!

So, I have a question that I know has probably been asked far too many times before. But I'm starting to stress, and my brain has shut down.

I got an interesting call from my employer tonight about hypothetically keeping my employment when I move in a few months. We have 2 head offices, and one happens to be not too far from where I am moving. So I'm wondering, because I will be moving on a K1, not CR1, I will not have my work authorization right away. Can I, work for a Canadian company while waiting on the US work authorization? Or, do I have to wait until I have it? Is it possible to remain employed by them after?

On top of everything else I have to get done in the next month, this last thing just broke me. Sigh.

Thanks in advance for your input!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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This comes up every now and then. I posted a link in that thread below. But the Short answer is yes if you are paid in Canadian from a Canadian company. Not a US employer.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/554580-working-remotely-at-home-in-us-while-waiting-for-ead/

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Interesting. It definitely seems like a grey area type of situation, but at least it gives me something to think about now. Thank you so much!

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NOA1 - Text/Email: 10/28/2014

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Sent to NVC: 06/22/2015

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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You mention you have 2 headoffices. I presume you would be working through the US head office which would be a US employer doing US payroll - you're not authorized to do that 'yet'

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yes for the US office, no to the US payroll, it would be my Canadian job paid through Canadian payroll, into a Canadian bank account.

Sent I-129F to Lewisville, TX: 10/21/2014
I-129F received in Lewisville, TX!: 10/23/2014

NOA1 - Text/Email: 10/28/2014

ARN updated: 10/28/2014

NOA2: 06/09/2015 (224 days)

Sent to NVC: 06/22/2015

NVC received: 06/30/2015

NVC Case Number received: 07/01/2015

Sent to Vancouver: 07/06/2015

Consulate received: 07/14/2015

Packet 3 sent: 07/14/2015

Packet 4 received: 07/16/2015

Medical: 08/14/2015

Interview: 08/18/2015 - APPROVED!

Received Visa: 08/21/2015

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Married: 10/25/2015

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Would you work at the US office? Like physically go in there to do you Canadian job?

I think you are getting into less grey area when the company has US based offices... even if you are working remotely (not at their office, like from your house) doing your Canadian job, being paid CAD into a Canadian account.

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Yes, I would just use a spare office. They are the subsidiary office. I would strictly be working for the Canadian side though. I don't know if I even want to at this point, but weighing my options isn't a bad thing.

Sent I-129F to Lewisville, TX: 10/21/2014
I-129F received in Lewisville, TX!: 10/23/2014

NOA1 - Text/Email: 10/28/2014

ARN updated: 10/28/2014

NOA2: 06/09/2015 (224 days)

Sent to NVC: 06/22/2015

NVC received: 06/30/2015

NVC Case Number received: 07/01/2015

Sent to Vancouver: 07/06/2015

Consulate received: 07/14/2015

Packet 3 sent: 07/14/2015

Packet 4 received: 07/16/2015

Medical: 08/14/2015

Interview: 08/18/2015 - APPROVED!

Received Visa: 08/21/2015

POE: 09/06/2015

Married: 10/25/2015

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I think if you're going into the US office you would need the work permit.

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Citizenship for older 2 boys

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NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

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It's interesting that the only thing that makes it not okay is where I plan to do the work. A park bench is fine, an office not so much, lol.

Sent I-129F to Lewisville, TX: 10/21/2014
I-129F received in Lewisville, TX!: 10/23/2014

NOA1 - Text/Email: 10/28/2014

ARN updated: 10/28/2014

NOA2: 06/09/2015 (224 days)

Sent to NVC: 06/22/2015

NVC received: 06/30/2015

NVC Case Number received: 07/01/2015

Sent to Vancouver: 07/06/2015

Consulate received: 07/14/2015

Packet 3 sent: 07/14/2015

Packet 4 received: 07/16/2015

Medical: 08/14/2015

Interview: 08/18/2015 - APPROVED!

Received Visa: 08/21/2015

POE: 09/06/2015

Married: 10/25/2015

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I wasn't asking where you'll physically work - I was asking if you'll be paid on a US payroll (vs the Canadian payroll which would deposit into your Cdn bank account like now).

ie: I could still be working for my current company but doing it out of a café in gay Paris - I would still be working for a US company regardless of where I physically get the work done.

Yes, I would just use a spare office. They are the subsidiary office. I would strictly be working for the Canadian side though. I don't know if I even want to at this point, but weighing my options isn't a bad thing.

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06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

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07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

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03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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Yes, I would just use a spare office. They are the subsidiary office. I would strictly be working for the Canadian side though. I don't know if I even want to at this point, but weighing my options isn't a bad thing.

Hi,

You can not work in the U.S. at the U.S. office. That's unauthorized work. That's a job that can go to someone authorized to work here.

Getting paid through Canada would just be an illegal work around to not being able to pay you in the U.S. because you lack work authorization. You will work in the U.S. at a U.S. office, and you and the company would avoid paying US taxes. Not a good idea.

Best of luck

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The other ones that I read on here that were a "grey area" seemed to be more working for Canadian clients. They too had a USA and Cdn office, but their work was dealing with Canadian clients and everything (payroll, clients were Cdn), just working remotely from the USA. You won't find a 100% answer here on VJ, maybe the company has a legal team you would be better asking

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Have to agree - if you ever had to explain in an immigration interview why you were working (even if it was from home) and no matter who you worked for...it would be tough. You really don't want to risk anything during this period.

Hi,

You can not work in the U.S. at the U.S. office. That's unauthorized work. That's a job that can go to someone authorized to work here.

Getting paid through Canada would just be an illegal work around to not being able to pay you in the U.S. because you lack work authorization. You will work in the U.S. at a U.S. office, and you and the company would avoid paying US taxes. Not a good idea.

Best of luck

Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

******************

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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We are all just giving our opinions because there is no concrete answer yet, like Flames said. The point is at what point can you be seen as doing a US job. Working for a Canadian company with no US offices, being paid CAD into a Candian account... that's fine (IMO), there is no way to be seen as a US job. But then as you add in more ties to the US, it gets riskier (again IMO). Working physically at the US office seems to slide past the "grey area" to me and one would need work authorization for that. Good luck with your decision. :)

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4/14/15- NOA1 hard copy AOS (NOA1 dated 4/7)

4/17/15- Biometrics Letter received

4/29/15- Biometrics completed

6/23/15 (Day 77)- Service request

7/2/15 (Day 86)- Service request complete, email of approval of EAD (approved on June 30)

12/29/15- Interview

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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So, to answer the previous questions here, since I got a decent amount of feedback! Thank you all!

I would be paid from the Canadian payroll, not the US.

No, it would not take a job away from an American, as it's a Canadian position that would never be hired for out of the US. I don't really want to go in the tons of reasons, but no, it wouldn't.

I have decided not to go with it any rate, not even because of the grey area of it. I've just been there for 5 years, it's time to move on, plus, my fiance said he wouldn't marry me if I took it. He was kidding, but I get his point. I happened to get the offer on the same day I was giving my notice. Just a lot going on, and figured I would think on it. I think I will take my well earned vacation, get used to life in the US, and start new. The rest of the my life will be new, my job should be too! I really appreciate all the help. :)

Sent I-129F to Lewisville, TX: 10/21/2014
I-129F received in Lewisville, TX!: 10/23/2014

NOA1 - Text/Email: 10/28/2014

ARN updated: 10/28/2014

NOA2: 06/09/2015 (224 days)

Sent to NVC: 06/22/2015

NVC received: 06/30/2015

NVC Case Number received: 07/01/2015

Sent to Vancouver: 07/06/2015

Consulate received: 07/14/2015

Packet 3 sent: 07/14/2015

Packet 4 received: 07/16/2015

Medical: 08/14/2015

Interview: 08/18/2015 - APPROVED!

Received Visa: 08/21/2015

POE: 09/06/2015

Married: 10/25/2015

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