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Filed: Country: India
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In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).

Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?

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I would like to know the answer to this question also because I have several Western Union receipts dated over several months since my I-129F was received.

10-12-2006 Engaged

11-13-2006 Sent I-129F

11-20-2006 I-129F received at CSC

11-23-2006 NOA1 received

11-28-2006 Touched

02-14-2007 Received NOA2 e-mail

02-20-2007 Received NOA2 snail mail

02-20-2007 NVC received Application

02-22-2007 NVC mailed application to Bogota

02-26-2007 Embassy received application

03-06-2007 Received Packet 3

03-07-2007 Returned Packet 3

03-16-2007 Recieved Packet 4

03-16-2007 Interview Date 04-13-2007

04-13-2007 Visa APPROVED!!!!

04-18-2007 Arrive in USA

06-09-2007 Married

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Australia
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Hi apgk,

I transferred money too and kept the receipts and used them for evidence. It can't hurt to add them into your pack to send off.

Good luck! :)

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).

Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?

Credit card charges don't show who benefitted from the charge. Western Union doesn't show evidence of a relationship. Just shows that you sent money at a point in time. What about letters, cards, phone bills, hotel receipts with both names, photos together. You do have those, right? If you are limited in what evidence you have, then you have to use what you have. But I would think credit card receipts and western unions would be a last resort.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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I was told to not show money changing hands as evidence.

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04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

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YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

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I MAY NOT BE WHERE I WANT TO BE BUT IM SURE NOT WHERE I WAS

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Why wouldn't financial support show evodewnce? To me this would indicate that you at least love this person enough to insure that she has some financial support. I plan on using mine. I am importing from a 3rd world country tho.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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I would be a bit skeptical to submit them, because it may raise a few eyebrows . I tend to agree with joeyjoey , use them as a last resort if you are a bit slack in the evidence department.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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The credit card receipts we used because we were both there in Morocco together on my trip and both names are on the cards.

TIMELINE

04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

01/16/2009 VISA IN HAND

01/31/2009 ARRIVED OKC

BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DONT MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DONT MIND

YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

LIFE IS NOT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS THE WAY IT IS

I MAY NOT BE WHERE I WANT TO BE BUT IM SURE NOT WHERE I WAS

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Filed: Country: India
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I would be a bit skeptical to submit them, because it may raise a few eyebrows . I tend to agree with joeyjoey , use them as a last resort if you are a bit slack in the evidence department.

I have all other evidences - phone bills, letters, emails, photos together, travel documents - boarding passes, passport stamps, Visa, hotel receipts (in russian, getting them translated), travelers check conversion to cash receipts, engagement ring receipts and even photos, gifts like florist receipts, paid-for-her-airline-ticket-once-receipt.

In addition to all of the above, I was thinking of including the western union receipts also.

I thinking just like azcatus above, that if you have a relationship, then the fact that you are willing to support her financially makes that stand even more valid since there is real money involved.

However, some people (like brnidokiegurl, Nagishkaw) seem to be against it - what exactly is the reason not to show this? I can't seem to understand.

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The logic behind not submitting money-wires is the consul might think that he/she is just using you for money and, therefore, using you to come to the U.S.

If you have alot of other proof, I wouldn't risk that suspicion. Remeber, most consuls are not going to think "he loves her so much he sends her money". Instead, they will be looking for a reason to delay/deny the visa.

We will use receipts (engagement ring, gifts, plane tickets) to show as proof, but not money transfers.

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Thinking ahead to the interview, what will they say about Western Union as evidence? Seeing how they like to assume the worst (SO using you for money) rather than you love them and want to make sure they are provided for, they might raise questions about financial support at the interview. Especially since your SO is from Russia, it seems like they get grilled a bit harder than other countries. Just my gut level reaction though.

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If you have futher evidence I would keep the western union out. phone records, letters, stuff she send you and also stuff you send her, you can take those envelopes and make copies of them if you can blow them up to actually show her Country Stamp and also the Dates, that will link the communication between both of you, yahoo chat messenger transcrip of your chats, (hmmm keep the juciest stuff out) lol, just kidding, but mostly anything that link both of you together. For places with High fraud showing western union payment may or may not raise eyebrow as the the nature of your relationship, so I would play it safe but of course this is just my 2 cents(disclaimer : based on my personal experience only)

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apgk,

Yes, but consider for a moment what kind of relationship you might be providing evidence of.

Yodrak

In last few months, few times I have sent money using Western Union to my fiancee (for helping out with various general things and expenses).

Can I use such documents like western union receipts and CC charges for this an evidence towards ongoing relationship?

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Interesting pile of posts here. I noticed you all have filed for K-1 visas. I am married, send money twice a month to my wife who argues each time I send it. I will have these receipts as part of our relationship. I guess to each their own opinion but I am not concerned that they will read to much into anything. If you have other evidence to me it would not hurt. Of course this is only one man's opinion, later on........................you will hear the rest of the story...........

Doug

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2007 02 21 Case forwarded to Bogota Embassy

2007 02 23 Case received at Embassy

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2009 06 12 Touched but nothing changed on USCIS website

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