Black professor regrets comments critical of white students

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

i feel like most people find her comments so upsetting because they're taking them personally. i certainly don't take offense. maybe it's because i'm female and i understand the premise that it's difficult to empower the minority within the majority construct. minorities are used to being excluded, the majority absolutely cannot stand to be excluded. not to wish this away as poor word choice, just that the topic is too complex to properly process if taken personally.

this is from the bu president's response, do you agree with his comments?

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/05/boston-university-president-responds-to-saida-grundy-tweets-and-grundy-apologizes/

I endorse this message.

I've seen it when white people are discriminated against. Talk about rage...

[decocker 7,198]

I endorse this message.

I've seen it when white people are discriminated against. Talk about rage...

and once people are mad they shut down. there goes the whole conversation..

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

and once people are mad they shut down. there goes the whole conversation..

Yep, then it becomes we deserve what we get and all that jazz. Folks sitting here mad about what she said. They got just a taste of what we have to listen to every day.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Yep, then it becomes we deserve what we get and all that jazz. Folks sitting here mad about what she said. They got just a taste of what we have to listen to every day.

To be clear. I am not mad at the professor for her comment. I also see zero redeeming value in the concept that somehow this is poetic justice because Black people listen to this garbage in reverse every day. They don't hear it from me and while I am getting long in the tooth I was at one point a member of the White male class in academia that the professors all inclusive comment blanketed. So yes I find it sad and pathetic and offensive in the abstract sense, but the emotion evoked is not anger.

I find anyone who espouses blanket beliefs about anyone else as a whole, based solely on race, to be merely another sad and pathetic racist.

I get the anger of obviously and legitimately discriminated against minorities, so I have some sympathy for the professors opinion. Understanding is perhaps a better word. But she espoused an ignorant opinion. Pretty simple in my book.

Let's take an example from my own life. Years ago I was hanging out, driving around with a Native American friend of mine. We pulled up to a stop at a red light and he looked out the window at a car full of Hispanics and said "Yeah I am an Indian but at least I am not Mexican." had no represponse but the sadness that he felt oppressed but a little better about it since he was not Mexican has always made me feel a little sad. Racism and prejudice suck.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

To be clear. I am not mad at the professor for her comment. I also see zero redeeming value in the concept that somehow this is poetic justice because Black people listen to this garbage in reverse every day. They don't hear it from me and while I am getting long in the tooth I was at one point a member of the White male class in academia that the professors all inclusive comment blanketed. So yes I find it sad and pathetic and offensive in the abstract sense, but the emotion evoked is not anger.

I find anyone who espouses blanket beliefs about anyone else as a whole, based solely on race, to be merely another sad and pathetic racist.

I get the anger of obviously and legitimately discriminated against minorities, so I have some sympathy for the professors opinion. Understanding is perhaps a better word. But she espoused an ignorant opinion. Pretty simple in my book.

Let's take an example from my own life. Years ago I was hanging out, driving around with a Native American friend of mine. We pulled up to a stop at a red light and he looked out the window at a car full of Hispanics and said "Yeah I am an Indian but at least I am not Mexican." had no represponse but the sadness that he felt oppressed but a little better about it since he was not Mexican has always made me feel a little sad. Racism and prejudice suck.

My comment wasn't aimed at you. Second, I wasn't talking about poetic justice. I was lamenting on how some people are up in arms about this, but when it's reversed, there's little if not any sympathy. We have to hear how lazy, uneducated and violent our people are day in and day out. But we can't sink to their level,or we've lost. Have to be better than that. That's the difference between the two.

She shouldn't have said all white people. That was wrong, she's using the same mentality that holds us back as a whole.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

My comment wasn't aimed at you. Second, I wasn't talking about poetic justice. I was lamenting on how some people are up in arms about this, but when it's reversed, there's little if not any sympathy. We have to hear how lazy, uneducated and violent our people are day in and day out. But we can't sink to their level,or we've lost. Have to be better than that. That's the difference between the two.

She shouldn't have said all white people. That was wrong, she's using the same mentality that holds us back as a whole.

The one and only problem I have is the double standard. If she had been white and was talking about blacks she would have been fired no doubt

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The one and only problem I have is the double standard. If she had been white and was talking about blacks she would have been fired no doubt

The GA principle did this and still has her job. She's white.

[eieio 1,594]

"white masculinity is THE problem for America's colleges."

I actually hoped she would give some statistics or an explanation of why she feels this way. I have no idea what THE problem is for American colleges? Could be she has a valid argument? People love to call others racist. Like it is the worst thing you can be.

But , then she went on a white ##### rant and you get the idea she is not to rational about the whole issue.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The GA principle did this and still has her job. She's white.

She should be fired. I mean she said Black People right ?

Google Donal Sterling

[lostinblue 1,989]

Sure did not learn too much in that black history class . .....

African Slaves In The Arab World Posted GMT 10-3-2006 14:49:17

Over 28 Million Africans have been enslaved in the Muslim world during the past 14 centuries While much has been written concerning the Transatlantic slave trade, surprisingly little attention has been given to the Islamic slave trade across the Sahara, the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

While the European involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade to the Americas lasted for just over three centuries, the Arab involvement in the slave trade has lasted fourteen centuries, and in some parts of the Muslim world is still continuing to this day. A comparison of the Muslim slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts.

While two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were men, the proportions were reversed in the Muslim slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims.

While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Transsahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%!

While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service.

While many children were born to slaves in the Americas, and millions of their descendants are citizens in Brazil and the USA to this day, very few descendants of the slaves that ended up in the Middle East survive.

While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth.

It is estimated that possibly as many as 11 million Africans were transported across the Atlantic (95% of which went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions. Only 5% of the slaves went to the United States).

http://originalpeople.org/the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-of-africans-the-untold-story/

[decocker 7,198]

Sure did not learn too much in that black history class . .....

African Slaves In The Arab World Posted GMT 10-3-2006 14:49:17

Over 28 Million Africans have been enslaved in the Muslim world during the past 14 centuries While much has been written concerning the Transatlantic slave trade, surprisingly little attention has been given to the Islamic slave trade across the Sahara, the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

While the European involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade to the Americas lasted for just over three centuries, the Arab involvement in the slave trade has lasted fourteen centuries, and in some parts of the Muslim world is still continuing to this day. A comparison of the Muslim slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts.

While two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were men, the proportions were reversed in the Muslim slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims.

While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Transsahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%!

While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service.

While many children were born to slaves in the Americas, and millions of their descendants are citizens in Brazil and the USA to this day, very few descendants of the slaves that ended up in the Middle East survive.

While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth.

It is estimated that possibly as many as 11 million Africans were transported across the Atlantic (95% of which went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions. Only 5% of the slaves went to the United States).

http://originalpeople.org/the-arab-muslim-slave-trade-of-africans-the-untold-story/

context lib, it's real important.

basically, you'd like to reserve the right to be critical of the black community - as a whole- without allowing that same level of criticism directed at white people. that's just absurd to me.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

She should be fired. I mean she said Black People right ?

Google Donal Sterling

Considering that he employs a slew of black people, not to mention his earlier troubles:

In February 2003, the Housing Rights Center of Los Angeles filed a housing discrimination case against Sterling on behalf of 18 tenants. The lawsuit featured several racist statements allegedly made by Sterling to employees, such as that "black people smell and attract vermin" and "hispanics just smoke and hang around the building" as well as Sterling's alleged intent to rent only to Korean tenants because "they will pay the rent and live in whatever conditions I give them". Part of the HRC case's resolution included U.S. District Judge Dale Fischer awarding the plaintiffs' attorney $4.9 million in attorneys fees. While the final terms for the plaintiffs were confidential, the judge said the fees were justified as the settlement obtained by the plaintiffs against Sterling was one of the largest of its kind and the public benefit terms were significant and wide-ranging.

In 2006, the U.S. Department of Justice then sued Sterling for housing discrimination for using race as a factor in filling some of his apartment buildings. The suit charged that Sterling refused to rent to non-Koreans in the Koreatown neighborhood and to African Americans in Beverly Hills.^[94] In November 2009, ESPN reported that Sterling agreed to pay a fine of $2.7 million to settle claims brought by the Justice Department and Davin Day of Newport Beach^{[citation needed]} that Sterling engaged in discriminatory rental practices against Hispanics, blacks, and families with children.^[95]

In February 2009, Sterling was sued by former longtime Clippers executive Elgin Baylor for employment discrimination on the basis of age and race.^[96] The lawsuit alleged that Sterling told Baylor that he wanted to fill his team with "poor black boys from the South and a white head coach".^[94] The plaintiffs alleged that during negotiations for Danny Manning, Sterling said "I'm offering a lot of money for a poor black kid".^[94][97] The suit also alleged that "the Caucasian head coach was given a four-year, $22-million contract" while Baylor's salary had "been frozen at a comparatively paltry $350,000 since 2003".^[96]

If you think he should have kept his job, then maybe you should start a gofundme page. I'm sure folks will rush right in to help the poor billionaire who got fired for being a racist ####### to 90% of the people he employs. Nothing wrong with that...

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

context lib, it's real important.

basically, you'd like to reserve the right to be critical of the black community - as a whole- without allowing that same level of criticism directed at white people. that's just absurd to me.

That's why he can't argue his point effectively. His logic is so distorted he has to post something like this, because he can only talk about Muslim slave masters in another country. If you ask him who owned slaves here in THIS country, he'd dissipate like a soft mist

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The GA principle did this and still has her job. She's white.

Of course she was fired. Now justify for me it was ok to fire her and not the professor .

Principal ‘released’ after ‘black people’ graduation comment

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/report-gwinnett-principal-fired-over-racist-gradua/nmGRc/

[decocker 7,198]

Of course she was fired. Now justify for me it was ok to fire her and not the professor .

Principal ‘released’ after ‘black people’ graduation comment

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/report-gwinnett-principal-fired-over-racist-gradua/nmGRc/

if she was fired, maybe because she couldn't bear to take the blame? she apologized but said satan made her make the comments. if she were the principal of my kid's school i'd want her fired unless she was prepared to take seriously the same claim from any student who decides to shift blame to the devil in a disciplinary situation.