CENOMAR(CEMAR)

[Greenbaum 12,259]

And in the P4 letter you'll read this:

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Required Visa Interview Documents and Document Status Code Definitions

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While the applicant was processing at the National Visa Center, we asked him or her to submit certain forms

and documents. On the following pages, we indicate the status of each of these forms and documents and any

action the applicant needs to take to prepare them for the interview. Please refer to the document status code

definitions below to determine what action to take for each item.

Document Status Code Definitions:

A Obtain the original or a certified copy of this document and present it at your interview

C You must bring this entire interview letter to your interview

D The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

F The NVC did not request this form or document

G You withdrew your I-601A, Application for Provisional Unlawful Presence Waiver, with USCIS

H You must obtain two passport photographs of yourself and present them at your interview

I This form is incomplete. You must present a completed form at your interview.

J The NVC only received a photocopy of the document. You must present the original document at

the time of your interview.

O The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

P You must request this police certificate from the issuing authority. After you submit your

request, the issuing authority will send the certificate directly to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

for your interview.

R You submitted the Immigrant Visa Application online

S The NVC only received a scanned document. You must present the original document at the time

of your interview.

T You must present an English translation of this document at the time of your interview

U You indicated this document was unavailable. The consular officer will decide whether to waive

the requirement for this document at your interview.

V View the website at http://havana.usint.gov/cfrp.htmlfor English

or http://spanish.havana.usint.gov/cfrp.htmlfor Spanish and follow the instructions.

X This document is unobtainable

Y The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

$ Payment received

+ The NVC returned this document to you per your request. Present this document at your interview.

You must bring the following items to the visa interview:

? Any original documents the NVC requested that you did not submit (refer to the document list below)

? If the physician gives you your medical exam results, bring them to your interview in the envelope sealed

by the medical office.

? Two passport photographs measuring 2 inches by 2 inches (5 cm by 5 cm) with a white background

? A valid unexpired passport

? Photocopies of all civil documents

? A new police certificate from your current country of residence, if you obtained the police certificate

more than one year ago.

? Any additional documents listed in the U.S. Embassy or Consulate specific interview guidelines

The following table lists the documents requested by the NVC and whether or not you submitted them to the

NVC. Please note that even though you may have provided the NVC with a copy of a document, you are

still required to bring the original document to the visa interview.

Refer to the Document Status Code Definitions on Page 3 to determine the meaning of the document status

codes.

Document Name Document Status

CORRESPONDENCE INSTRUCTIONS C

1 - IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION PART 1 R

1 - IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION PART 2 R

2 - PASSPORT J

3 - BIRTH CERTIFICATE J

4 - ADOPTION F

5 - MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE J

6 - MARRIAGE TERMINATION F

7 - COURT RECORDS F

F - FINANCIAL EVIDENCE Y

9 - MILITARY RECORDS F

10 - PHILIPPINES NBI CLEARANCE J

FEE PAYMENT $

PHOTOGRAPH Y

F - PETITIONER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE F

F - PETITIONER BIRTH CERTIFICATE F

11 - PETITIONER MARRIAGE TERMINATION F

Could you sight your resource where this information is coming from. Website address please?

Regardless if the Filipino has never married the Embassy requires it as they want to be sure he/she is free to marry. They do not care what the NSO document states. Just our experience.

[JohnandMhay 13]

Could you sight your resource where this information is coming from. Website address please?

Regardless if the Filipino has never married the Embassy requires it as they want to be sure he/she is free to marry. They do not care what the NSO document states. Just our experience.

Greenbaum,

Its in the Package 4 (interview requirements) that is sent to every CR1 / IR1 visa applicant after Case Closed. It contains the interview appointment time and date, Medical info for scheduling and a list of what to bring to the interview.

I could post the whole letter but need to redact my wife's info first.

[Brassballs 47]

Could you sight your resource where this information is coming from. Website address please?

Regardless if the Filipino has never married the Embassy requires it as they want to be sure he/she is free to marry. They do not care what the NSO document states. Just our experience.

Unless I don't remember correctly the "free to marry" docs were given to the LCR before they prepared our marriage license.

Again not to belabor the point, after we have been legally married in the Philippines for nearly a year as evidenced by the NSO marriage certificate, providing a CENOMAR at the USEM interview is kind of late in the ball game for CR-1 visas don't you think?.

I can see why USEM would need that doc for a K-1 but not for CR-1. That's what so puzzling to me.

So I guess I also need a CENOMAR for my 3 year old step-daughter? Or not? Better question I guess would be at what age would CENOMAR be required for either visa: 16, 18, 21, younger? I've never seen that one answered any where before.

[JohnandMhay 13]

Unless I don't remember correctly the "free to marry" docs were given to the LCR before they prepared our marriage license.

Again not to belabor the point, after we have been legally married in the Philippines for nearly a year as evidenced by the NSO marriage certificate, providing a CENOMAR at the USEM interview is kind of late in the ball game for CR-1 visas don't you think?.

I can see why USEM would need that doc for a K-1 but not for CR-1. That's what so puzzling to me.

So I guess I also need a CENOMAR for my 3 year old step-daughter? Or not? Better question I guess would be at what age would CENOMAR be required for either visa: 16, 18, 21, younger? I've never seen that one answered any where before.

18 is legal marrying age right? SO I would guess that would be it, but don't know and of course dealing with the Gub'ment, who knows how they think....... 'Murica!

Edited May 16, 2015 by JohnandMhay

[Greenbaum 12,259]

And in the P4 letter you'll read this:

================================================================================

Required Visa Interview Documents and Document Status Code Definitions

================================================================================

While the applicant was processing at the National Visa Center, we asked him or her to submit certain forms

and documents. On the following pages, we indicate the status of each of these forms and documents and any

action the applicant needs to take to prepare them for the interview. Please refer to the document status code

definitions below to determine what action to take for each item.

Document Status Code Definitions:

A Obtain the original or a certified copy of this document and present it at your interview

C You must bring this entire interview letter to your interview

D The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

F The NVC did not request this form or document

G You withdrew your I-601A, Application for Provisional Unlawful Presence Waiver, with USCIS

H You must obtain two passport photographs of yourself and present them at your interview

I This form is incomplete. You must present a completed form at your interview.

J The NVC only received a photocopy of the document. You must present the original document at

the time of your interview.

O The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

P You must request this police certificate from the issuing authority. After you submit your

request, the issuing authority will send the certificate directly to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

for your interview.

R You submitted the Immigrant Visa Application online

S The NVC only received a scanned document. You must present the original document at the time

of your interview.

T You must present an English translation of this document at the time of your interview

U You indicated this document was unavailable. The consular officer will decide whether to waive

the requirement for this document at your interview.

V View the website at http://havana.usint.gov/cfrp.htmlfor English

or http://spanish.havana.usint.gov/cfrp.htmlfor Spanish and follow the instructions.

X This document is unobtainable

Y The NVC sent this form or document to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate

$ Payment received

+ The NVC returned this document to you per your request. Present this document at your interview.

You must bring the following items to the visa interview:

? Any original documents the NVC requested that you did not submit (refer to the document list below)

? If the physician gives you your medical exam results, bring them to your interview in the envelope sealed

by the medical office.

? Two passport photographs measuring 2 inches by 2 inches (5 cm by 5 cm) with a white background

? A valid unexpired passport

? Photocopies of all civil documents

? A new police certificate from your current country of residence, if you obtained the police certificate

more than one year ago.

? Any additional documents listed in the U.S. Embassy or Consulate specific interview guidelines

The following table lists the documents requested by the NVC and whether or not you submitted them to the

NVC. Please note that even though you may have provided the NVC with a copy of a document, you are

still required to bring the original document to the visa interview.

Refer to the Document Status Code Definitions on Page 3 to determine the meaning of the document status

codes.

Document Name Document Status

CORRESPONDENCE INSTRUCTIONS C

1 - IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION PART 1 R

1 - IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION PART 2 R

2 - PASSPORT J

3 - BIRTH CERTIFICATE J

4 - ADOPTION F

5 - MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE J

6 - MARRIAGE TERMINATION F

7 - COURT RECORDS F

F - FINANCIAL EVIDENCE Y

9 - MILITARY RECORDS F

10 - PHILIPPINES NBI CLEARANCE J

FEE PAYMENT $

PHOTOGRAPH Y

F - PETITIONER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE F

F - PETITIONER BIRTH CERTIFICATE F

11 - PETITIONER MARRIAGE TERMINATION F

Why does your P4 letter reference Cuba and you are a Filipino? Are you referencing this document because you will marry a Cuba?

Unless I don't remember correctly the "free to marry" docs were given to the LCR before they prepared our marriage license.

Again not to belabor the point, after we have been legally married in the Philippines for nearly a year as evidenced by the NSO marriage certificate, providing a CENOMAR at the USEM interview is kind of late in the ball game for CR-1 visas don't you think?.

I can see why USEM would need that doc for a K-1 but not for CR-1. That's what so puzzling to me.

So I guess I also need a CENOMAR for my 3 year old step-daughter? Or not? Better question I guess would be at what age would CENOMAR be required for either visa: 16, 18, 21, younger? I've never seen that one answered any where before.

18 and above. But, I played it safe and for my stepson who is 12 I got one for him.

Like you said, you never know what they will ask for.

[JohnandMhay 13]

Why does your P4 letter reference Cuba and you are a Filipino? Are you referencing this document because you will marry a Cuba?

It doesn't reference Cuba, but it lists every standard code that could appear and what those codes mean (In the codes Definition Section that you are referencing), that particular one (V) appears to be only for Cuba.

And I'm not a Filipino, I'm the USC (pasty white guy in the Avatar Picture) married to the Filipina.

Edited May 16, 2015 by JohnandMhay

[Greenbaum 12,259]

It doesn't reference Cuba, but it lists every standard code that could appear and what those codes mean (In the codes Definition Section that you are referencing), that particular one (V) appears to be only for Cuba.

And I'm not a Filipino, I'm the USC (pasty white guy in the Avatar Picture) married to the Filipina.

Your teaching me something new. I am not well versed in the I-1CR processing and therefore I sort of stay away that topic. But, I like to read and learn so I can give back. Thanks for sharing.

Be careful as this might be a curve ball where your expected not to have to provide and (because the P4 says you don't) oppppps "Sir can I see your CENOMAR?" And your reaction is your jaw drops. Now comes the RFE and 2-3 more weeks of waiting.

[JohnandMhay 13]

Your teaching me something new. I am not well versed in the I-1CR processing and therefore I sort of stay away that topic. But, I like to read and learn so I can give back. Thanks for sharing.

Be careful as this might be a curve ball where your expected not to have to provide and (because the P4 says you don't) oppppps "Sir can I see your CENOMAR?" And your reaction is your jaw drops. Now comes the RFE and 2-3 more weeks of waiting.

Happy to share the full redacted letter with you, but 110KB limit keeps me from posting the pdf. If you want it, PM me an email and I'll mail it to you.

We have the CEMAR, so that's not an issue. I'm just not planning on going back to courthouse for my divorce records (Also listed as F code).

I'll report back on the 28th once we are back at her home as to what they asked for

Edited May 16, 2015 by JohnandMhay