Freedom to Discriminate? Michigan Business Under Fire for Anti-Gay Ad

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Do you honestly believe that mutual love and respect falls under the same category as bestiality?

Well, Old Macdonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O. And on his farm no telling what he might have done with the animals.....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Thanks, i was so worried. Venkman(this week) to the rescue.

Did you get lucky and fall in love with a human? of legal age?

It must be scary knowing you have no control of who or what you fall in love with. Maybe just stay down in the basement?

You really haven't supplied any thought to this at all have you.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Correct the assassination attempt on Pam Geller comes to mind

Perhaps next time you might also want to think about punctuation?

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Well…what are you going to do when you fall in love with someone else….say in a couple of years? Since it is out of your control….how is it possible to prevent it from happening? How could you stay with your wife if you love someone else? Or do you just keep getting divorces and go where love takes you?

This may be why some people get marries 6,7,8 or more times. You might fit into this group.

Just because I fall for someone else doesn't mean I won't love my wife. My wife is the person to whom I am committed. Whatever my feelings for someone else, I am not going to cheat on her. I get to CHOOSE how I respond to feelings I have. I don't get to control my feelings.

If I randomly walked up to you on the street and kicked you in the genitals, you could choose whether or not to hurt me for it. You could choose whether to press charges about it. You could choose a lot of things to do with this action. What you could not choose would be how you felt about it. You would likely be angry and in pain and that's not in your control. What IS in your control is what you do about it.

Love is a feeling, just like any other.

And you didn't answer my question. Do you honestly believe that a love borne of mutual love and respect, between two consenting adults, is the same as bestiality?

[eieio 1,594]

Do you honestly believe that a love borne of mutual love and respect, between two consenting adults, is the same as bestiality?

Not at all. I however, believe I can choose who I love.

Whatever my feelings for someone else, I am not going to cheat on her. I get to CHOOSE how I respond to feelings I have.

Good. I can respect that.

[eieio 1,594]

And on his farm no telling what he might have done with the animals.....

Each day I was a new love

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Not at all. I however, believe I can choose who I love.

so when did you choose only to ever love women? Or did that come naturally to you?

[eieio 1,594]

so when did you choose only to ever love women? Or did that come naturally to you?

Are female animals considered women?

I never made the choice to be attracted to women. I never said you made the choice to be gay. I do have control over which individual women I choose to fall in love with. To me there is more to love than just attraction. I meet a women. If I am attracted to her I may want her ,but I want to spend some time with her to see if our personalities are compatible for the long term. If they are not…there is no point in continuing the relationship. To me, an important part of love is trust…and that takes time.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Are female animals considered women?

I never made the choice to be attracted to women. I never said you made the choice to be gay. I do have control over which individual women I choose to fall in love with. To me there is more to love than just attraction. I meet a women. If I am attracted to her I may want her ,but I want to spend some time with her to see if our personalities are compatible for the long term. If they are notthere is no point in continuing the relationship. To me, an important part of love is trustand that takes time.

Scientifically, love is just a specific combination of a few chemicals. Dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin and a few others. Oxytocin, a bonding chemical is responsible for what you call trust. It comes about through contact, often physical.

It's all chemistry and we can't control our brain chemistry. My brain chemistry, like yours, makes it so that oxytocin is released through prolonged contact with females who my brain notices and releases dopamine in response to. The only difference between the love I feel and that you feel is that I am a woman and you are a man, so therefore people believe that I deserve to not be allowed to marry the person I love or to be employed. I can no more choose which gender stimulates the release of those chemicals than you, a straight man, can.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Scientifically, love is just a specific combination of a few chemicals. Dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin and a few others. Oxytocin, a bonding chemical is responsible for what you call trust. It comes about through contact, often physical.

It's all chemistry and we can't control our brain chemistry. My brain chemistry, like yours, makes it so that oxytocin is released through prolonged contact with females who my brain notices and releases dopamine in response to. The only difference between the love I feel and that you feel is that I am a woman and you are a man, so therefore people believe that I deserve to not be allowed to marry the person I love or to be employed. I can no more choose which gender stimulates the release of those chemicals than you, a straight man, can.

Don't forget that this guy deliberately brought up pedophilia and bestiality into a thread about gays being discriminated against by advertising reducing their sexuality to a matter of individual choice. There's an agenda at work there.

Are female animals considered women?

I never made the choice to be attracted to women. I never said you made the choice to be gay. I do have control over which individual women I choose to fall in love with. To me there is more to love than just attraction. I meet a women. If I am attracted to her I may want her ,but I want to spend some time with her to see if our personalities are compatible for the long term. If they are notthere is no point in continuing the relationship. To me, an important part of love is trustand that takes time.

So what is your opinion on homosexuality?

[eieio 1,594]

I can no more choose which gender stimulates the release of those chemicals than you, a straight man, can.

We were never in a disagreement about that.

Don't forget that this guy deliberately brought up pedophilia and bestiality into a thread about gays being discriminated against by advertising reducing their sexuality to a matter of individual choice. There's an agenda at work there.

Oh the horror. I must be slain

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-stone/freedom-to-discriminate-m_b_7244212.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Most people believe in freedom of speech. Most people also believe that a business shouldn't have the right to discriminate against customers for their religious and political beliefs. But what if you were faced with a situation where you had to choose?

Right now in Dearborn, Mich. a local business owner is facing this very question. A group called "Restrain The Judges" placed a number of advertisements claiming "Homosexuality is a behavior, not a civil right."

Let them adertise all they wish. Let people not trade there if they dont like it

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

We were never in a disagreement about that.

then we're in agreement that, if you can't change a thing about yourself AND it hurts no one, then it deserves equal protection under the law?