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Jenn do you really think that if they would say it take 6 months to get your husband over here and it will take a year for the fiance, that the faudulent marriages would be at a very high rate. I think shov hit the nail on the head.

But I do think they need to clean up their processes and follow them.

I am finding these immigrations laws to be really crazy. You can have people that come here on a visitor or student visa and become out of status for years and all they have to do is marry a USC and all is forgiving, this is totally a piece of ######. The those of us that do things the right way get stepped on and screwed over. This ####### just isnt fair.

Traveled to Morocco on Aug 3rd, 2005

Got Engaged on Aug 16th, 2005

Left Morocco on Aug 19th, 2005

08-29-05 Filed I129F

01-09-06 Interview Date (9am) We were not approved today, I guess we got a 221g of the damn S. Korea Police Certificate that Casablanca said we didn't need.

03/03/06 Turn in Passport at 9am

03/15/06 Visa Issued

03/31/06 Enter USA via JFK

05/15/06 Wedding for Visa

06/10/06 Mailed AOS papers

07/06/06 Biometerics Apt

07/15/06 My offical wedding day....I know .....:-)

07/10/06 Touched

08/25/06 EAD Approvel

09/01/06 EAD in Hand

09/26/06 AOS Interview (Recommend for Approval)

10-05-06 Received Welcome Letter

10-10-06 Green Card Arrived.

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Im saying everyone should be taken care of in a prority level. But a family member needs to be more of a priority then a fiance. Fiance is not your family your just planning to marry. I just dont think its fair that married people have to wait so long and Fiances can be here in 6 months or less usually. If you were married and had to do all of this waiting instead of the short wait for a K1 visa you would see it differently.

To look at processing time alone and to say K1's therefore have more priority doesn't take into account the different nature of the visas. The CR-1 is different from the K-3 and both are different from the K-1. To focus on time alone completely overlooks the very nature of the visas being issued and the rights/privileges and obligations of the person being issued that visa once they enter the United States.

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My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

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I did my research first and decided to only get engaged there, not married. Doing a fiancee visa shows a little more caution, and is very short-term. It is to spend time together first to see if you're sure you want to marry. If you spend a few months together, then decide you aren't right for each other, the K1 visa holder goes home and the marriage doesn't happen.

Many who marry overseas spend very little time together in person before marrying. Some are the exception of course, but not many. This raises a red flag of fraud that the embassy is going to be cautious about.

Also, the K1 is very short. Once you get here you either marry and then fill the marriage visa, or you leave. The CR1 is permanent. When you get off that plane you are a green card holder and can work immediately. It is quite easy for a man to convince a woman to marry him and file the marriage visa, then when he gets here he can abandon her pretty quickly. With the CR1, there is an interview after 2 years, but I know my ex had no problem getting his 10 year card even though we were divorced, so even that requirement isn't that difficult to overcome.

With a K1, you have to go through a lot before you get your hands on a green card, including months of sitting and not being able to work while you wait for them to process the application. Even then, you go through the same process as the CR1, you're just with your spouse for it, not apart.

To me, that is basically the difference between the two.

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I did my research first and decided to only get engaged there, not married. Doing a fiancee visa shows a little more caution, and is very short-term. It is to spend time together first to see if you're sure you want to marry. If you spend a few months together, then decide you aren't right for each other, the K1 visa holder goes home and the marriage doesn't happen.

Many who marry overseas spend very little time together in person before marrying. Some are the exception of course, but not many. This raises a red flag of fraud that the embassy is going to be cautious about.

Also, the K1 is very short. Once you get here you either marry and then fill the marriage visa, or you leave. The CR1 is permanent. When you get off that plane you are a green card holder and can work immediately. It is quite easy for a man to convince a woman to marry him and file the marriage visa, then when he gets here he can abandon her pretty quickly. With the CR1, there is an interview after 2 years, but I know my ex had no problem getting his 10 year card even though we were divorced, so even that requirement isn't that difficult to overcome.

With a K1, you have to go through a lot before you get your hands on a green card, including months of sitting and not being able to work while you wait for them to process the application. Even then, you go through the same process as the CR1, you're just with your spouse for it, not apart.

To me, that is basically the difference between the two.

honeyblonde your right i see all your points. Most dont know eachother to well before marrying and K1 you get time for that. I just mean the time for married people or family is so much more then a K1 visa it takes forever to get the littlest t hing done for married people. I just dont think they should be the priority and all visas of this type take the same amount of time. Look at married people we get two whole hours a week for interviews. Do you know how long it takes for them to just find time for us? But nonimmigrant people get every day of the week. They dont give a ####### about married people or anyone just them and making all their damn money off us and who they can deny out of it!

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My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

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look on one hand the K-1 have to AOS. in 90 days..

so thats why they are ideal to the USICS.

take the CR1. you dont have to AOS in 90days you have to

remove condtions in 21 months.

they look at 90days diffrently thant the 21 months or in some cases

the IR1 < these dont have to remove condtions > I think IR1 is 5 year green card. < correct me if this is not right >

My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

I agree with you! :thumbs:

rebecca valid points absolutely. no one looks at the having to do the AOS and all that the k-1 has to go

though. I know it has to feel like starting over. just like those going K-3. its like starting over.

let me tell you something else.

there is a fellow that has a wife from Pakistan.

she arrived here on K-3. guess what.

she had to go to AOS interview 2 times.

tell me is that stressful? its like starting over..

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My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

Im not complaining I just dont think the processes are fair or the wait times. And to correct you Ive seen everyone complain here all the time Im not the only one. Since everyone seems to disagree with me Ill just leave this be since no one gives unless its about them.

My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

And if your information I didnt chose this stupid visa route the I-130 was approved to fast!

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I did my research first and decided to only get engaged there, not married. Doing a fiancee visa shows a little more caution, and is very short-term. It is to spend time together first to see if you're sure you want to marry. If you spend a few months together, then decide you aren't right for each other, the K1 visa holder goes home and the marriage doesn't happen.

Many who marry overseas spend very little time together in person before marrying. Some are the exception of course, but not many. This raises a red flag of fraud that the embassy is going to be cautious about.

Also, the K1 is very short. Once you get here you either marry and then fill the marriage visa, or you leave. The CR1 is permanent. When you get off that plane you are a green card holder and can work immediately. It is quite easy for a man to convince a woman to marry him and file the marriage visa, then when he gets here he can abandon her pretty quickly. With the CR1, there is an interview after 2 years, but I know my ex had no problem getting his 10 year card even though we were divorced, so even that requirement isn't that difficult to overcome.

With a K1, you have to go through a lot before you get your hands on a green card, including months of sitting and not being able to work while you wait for them to process the application. Even then, you go through the same process as the CR1, you're just with your spouse for it, not apart.

To me, that is basically the difference between the two.

you are right honey!!!!

your case was like mine.. we are like a mirror case< similar situations > . I took the Marriage path Cr1,

you took k-1 path. I weigh my options. its all back to that choice.

like you - I am happy with the choice I made.

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My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

First of all why would a K1 person complain? All you have to wait is maybe 6 months or more.

My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

You dont know how many of what type of visas go through Morocco only they do you people all think you know everything!

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My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

Im not complaining I just dont think the processes are fair or the wait times. And to correct you Ive seen everyone complain here all the time Im not the only one. Since everyone seems to disagree with me Ill just leave this be since no one gives unless its about them.

My point is look at how long a family member has to wait compared to a boyfriend or girlfriend. All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last. If you had to wait as long as some of these married people what would you do?

Jennie,

Everyone made their own choice whether to marry abroad or go for the fiance visa. You ask what these other people would do if they had to wait as long as the married couples, and talk about others complaining about 5 or 6 months, but honestly, I don't remember anyone complaining quite as much as you have. I understand you are frustrated but this was YOUR choice on where and who to marry and what type of visa that would allow you to apply for. Yes, you are waiting longer in this part of the process but your husband will also have advantages that the K1 visa holders don't have. Again, it comes back to choice. We all chose what route to go. I am not complaining because my husband cannot work now. I am happy he is here with me. It was my decision to go this route as it was yours to take the one you chose.

There are more non-immigrant visa appointments because there are more non-immigrant visa applications. These include student, medical, tourist and K1.

Rebecca

And if your information I didnt chose this stupid visa route the I-130 was approved to fast!

jenn

no one is disageeing with you. I think its all a crazy web really.

btw, once you marry you have to file I-130.

Jenn,

hang in there kid. soon this stuff will be one big bad dream.you will have hubby home.

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Jennie,

I think many people would like their case to go faster than others' for a myriad of reasons. Whether it be "well, we're married and they're only engaged, so we should get priority.", or something else.

I'm guilty of it as well. Personally, I don't really agree with using the 90 days of the K1 to "see if you like each other and want to get married." I had already lived with my then fiance abroad for more than a year and known him for over two when we applied for his visa. I was seeing people get approved more quickly than us who had met online 6 months ago. Shouldn't we have gotten priority over those people? I realize that this attitude may not have been kind, but resentment creeps up on you.

We too weighed our options regarding the K1 vs. K3 vs. CR1 and made an informed decision accordingly.

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Why are husband more important than a fiance (they are coming here to start a family)?

thats not a fair statement! in support of all of those that DO have husbands.

you do realize they are on alot of our accounts such as my husband is on my medical

and stuff. so that makes him very important - some of these husbands are also daddys of those

that are pregante or had a child. having said that there is alot that the k-1s have to go though such as the AOS and the gruling waits.

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The differences in processing times has more to do with the type of visa that you are applying for rather than if you are married or not.

With the normal CR1/IR1 visas, the bulk of the investigation work happens before the interview. Once the spouse gets to the US, he/she will get their green card and go on their merry way.

The K visas were created during the Clinton administration so that families (both married and engaged) could be together quicker. They were designed so that the spouse/fiancee could come to the US to be with family and wait for the processing to be finished while they are here.

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Jennie,

>>>And to correct you Ive seen everyone complain here all the time Im not the only one.

No, you never saw everyone in here complain all the time. I think the majority of the people in this forum have handled their wait stoically and with grace, including many who have had far longer waits than you.

>>>>First of all why would a K1 person complain? All you have to wait is maybe 6 months or more.

I don't know Jennie, you made the claim in your own words

>>>>>All these people complain its been 5-6 months or whatever since you seen your fiance last.

>>>And if your information I didnt chose this stupid visa route the I-130 was approved to fast!

Yes, you chose this route by getting married in Morocco thereby eliminating K1 as an option.

This process is frustrating for EVERYONE. However, again, we all had our choices. Take Shon for example: Shon has had a very difficult process and is in a very long wait, yet she is still able to put it all in perspective, recognizes the pros and cons of each visa, and is happy with her choice. "Priority" isn't time alone.

Rebecca

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