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Hi everyone!

I'm about to mail in my K1 petition tomorrow. A few more questions...

1) So for Question 34.a all I have to mention/prove is that we met in person within the last 2 years? (I fulfilled this requirement went I visited my fiancee this past March 2015.)

2) For the same Question 34.a I do not have to mention how our relationship started, which it did back in 2012?

3) If so, I assume describing how our relationship started will take place during the Embassy Interview by my fiancee?

I want to provide the minimum information requested without providing to much information that isn't necessary, that could lead to RFEs.

Thanks in advance!

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ROC:

7/2/18 - ROC packet (I-751) sent

7/5/18 - USCIS CSC received

7/13/18 - NOA (I-797) notice date

7/17/18 - $680 check cashed

7/20/18 - NOA (I-797) received

3/11/19 - Biometrics reused

6/4/19 - Case transferred to Potomac Service Center  

10/9/19 - New Card Is Being Produced / Approved

10/11/19 - Card Was Mailed To Me

10/12/19 - Approval Notice received

10/17/19 - 10-yr Green Card received

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Hi everyone!

I'm about to mail in my K1 petition tomorrow. A few more questions...

1) So for Question 34.a all I have to mention/prove is that we met in person within the last 2 years? (I fulfilled this requirement went I visited my fiancee this past March 2015.)

2) For the same Question 34.a I do not have to mention how our relationship started, which it did back in 2012?

3) If so, I assume describing how our relationship started will take place during the Embassy Interview by my fiancee?

I want to provide the minimum information requested without providing to much information that isn't necessary, that could lead to RFEs.

Thanks in advance!

I gave a brief description of the evolution of our relationship & included many Whatsapp chat pages to back that up (like 150).

ROC Timeline!

Service Center : California Service Center

NOA2017-09-01

Biometrics : 2017-09-28

ROC Approved 2019-01-17

 

AOS Timeline!

Marriage : 2015-01-10

AOS/EAD/AP NOA : 2015-01-20

Biometrics : 2015-02-17

EAD/AP Approved : 2015-03-17

NPIW : 2015-06-11

AOS Approved : 2015-11-24

 

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Transferred? No

Consulate : Frankfurt, Germany

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-03-11

I-129F NOA2 : 2014-08-12

Consulate Received : 2014-09-15

Interview Date : 2014-11-13

Interview Result : Approved

Visa Received : 2014-11-15

US Entry : 2014-12-31

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Don't omit that you met in 2012. Just give a brief description. Then include the dates showing you've recently been face to face. How you met, and, where you met will come up again so include it so it doesn't sound like your hiding something or that you don't know.

The total amount of days from the date I mailed in our K1 Visa application to the day my fiancé stepped foot into the USA:

1 year, 3 months and 8 days.

The amount of days from the date we mailed in our AOS to the date everything was approved (after 3 RFEs):

7 months & 5 days

Which makes our journey a total of:

2 years, 3 months, and 8 days


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You can simply say, "We met in 2012, then I visited [her name] in person where she lives in [city], [country] from [date] to [date]."

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Thanks everyone! I'll have the first paragraph describe my last trip to see her in March 2015. I'll then have a short second paragraph saying we met online in 2012, met in person later that year and that I been back to see her for a total of 7 times.

ROC:

7/2/18 - ROC packet (I-751) sent

7/5/18 - USCIS CSC received

7/13/18 - NOA (I-797) notice date

7/17/18 - $680 check cashed

7/20/18 - NOA (I-797) received

3/11/19 - Biometrics reused

6/4/19 - Case transferred to Potomac Service Center  

10/9/19 - New Card Is Being Produced / Approved

10/11/19 - Card Was Mailed To Me

10/12/19 - Approval Notice received

10/17/19 - 10-yr Green Card received

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Thanks everyone! I'll have the first paragraph describe my last trip to see her in March 2015. I'll then have a short second paragraph saying we met online in 2012, met in person later that year and that I been back to see her for a total of 7 times.

If you are saying that you met online, be sure to say specifically which website it was and maybe even give a small description of what the website is about/a small excerpt from the website itself of what it claims to be (to show the intention of the website and that it is not an international marriage broker). My recent RFE was for this exact reason - I originally stated that we met online but did not say which website specifically. I thought that the only thing that mattered was that we had met in person in the last two years and had plenty of proof about that. So don't just quickly skip thru the "we met online" part - give more details!

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If you are saying that you met online, be sure to say specifically which website it was and maybe even give a small description of what the website is about/a small excerpt from the website itself of what it claims to be (to show the intention of the website and that it is not an international marriage broker). My recent RFE was for this exact reason - I originally stated that we met online but did not say which website specifically. I thought that the only thing that mattered was that we had met in person in the last two years and had plenty of proof about that. So don't just quickly skip thru the "we met online" part - give more details!

Interesting. Some people say don't even mention how you met online as it will cause RFEs like this. Some people say to mention how and when you met online to be honest and disclose everything. Ahhh what to do!?!?!?

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ROC:

7/2/18 - ROC packet (I-751) sent

7/5/18 - USCIS CSC received

7/13/18 - NOA (I-797) notice date

7/17/18 - $680 check cashed

7/20/18 - NOA (I-797) received

3/11/19 - Biometrics reused

6/4/19 - Case transferred to Potomac Service Center  

10/9/19 - New Card Is Being Produced / Approved

10/11/19 - Card Was Mailed To Me

10/12/19 - Approval Notice received

10/17/19 - 10-yr Green Card received

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disclose what is being asked to be disclosed. in this case they are asking you to disclose how you met in person in the last two years. not necessary to write a noble. will including other things on your statement hurt your case?...maybe..maybe not...not disclosing things that they are not asking you to disclose in the first place is not being dishonest as others try to imply and it certainly won't hurt your case either.

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USCIS BE LIKE.......WE ARE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN GUYS!

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28 Sep 2014 -- Mailed I-129F

01 Oct 2014 -- I-129F Delivered to USCIS

06 Oct 2014 -- NOA1 Received via Text/Email

14 Oct 2014 -- NOA1 Hard Copy Received

23 Oct 2014 -- Petition Approved as per USCIS website

30 Oct 2014 -- NOA2 Hard Copy Received

07 Nov 2014 -- NVC Received Petition

10 Nov 2014 -- NVC Case Number Assigned

17 Nov 2014 -- Status Update "Ready for Interview" as per CEAC website

20 Nov 2014 -- NVC Case# Notice Received

22 Nov 2014 -- Medical

16 Dec 2014 -- Interview

18 Dec 2014 -- 221(g) Received via email

22 Dec 2014 -- RFE Instructions received via email

05 Feb 2015 -- RFE Requirements submitted

15 Apr 2015 -- Visa Issued as per CEAC Website

17 Apr 2015 -- Received Embassy Email, Visa on the way!!!!

20 Apr 2015 -- Visa OnHand :)

27 Apr 2015 -- CFO Appointment

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Thanks again everyone for your feedback!

Especially for re-iterating that the K1 application is just asking if we have met in person in the past 2 years along with stating the circumstances of that meeting. It is not asking how our relationship started or was established.

I guess I was over complicating things by thinking I should give them details of our whole relationship when that's not what Questions 34 and 34a are asking.

ROC:

7/2/18 - ROC packet (I-751) sent

7/5/18 - USCIS CSC received

7/13/18 - NOA (I-797) notice date

7/17/18 - $680 check cashed

7/20/18 - NOA (I-797) received

3/11/19 - Biometrics reused

6/4/19 - Case transferred to Potomac Service Center  

10/9/19 - New Card Is Being Produced / Approved

10/11/19 - Card Was Mailed To Me

10/12/19 - Approval Notice received

10/17/19 - 10-yr Green Card received

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disclose what is being asked to be disclosed. in this case they are asking you to disclose how you met in person in the last two years. not necessary to write a noble. will including other things on your statement hurt your case?...maybe..maybe not...not disclosing things that they are not asking you to disclose in the first place is not being dishonest as others try to imply and it certainly won't hurt your case either.

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Let me tell you something

there are few here that I am in touch with that are awaiting the decision after submitting RFE about our websites not being IMB. We did everything as others, and yet I have been waiting for almost 2 months, other two couples coming on to one month.

It is nice that some mention 'met online' and don't get RFE, others do, and get approved after it withing a week. But it doesn't happen always. As you see, there is a chance that your approval will be delayed by months because of that.

Do you want to risk it?

If I were to do it all over again, I would never mention 'online' dirty word. This is absolutely unnecessary information. It is apparent that to USCIS it is very difficult to see apart the matchmaking mail bride order site and simple community style free dating site, and you can do everything correct and try to prove all you want, and your case can disappear in the depths of USCIS for fecking 2 months...

Can you tell how pissed off I am at this point?

So, dude, up to you. Don't be a fool

I-129F petition/K-1 visa

1/21/2015 I-129F mailed USPS Priority to Dallas lockbox /// 1/26/2015 received by USCIS

1/28/2015 NOA1 date /// 1/29/2015 NOA1 (text/email) I-129F sent → NOA1 - 7 days

2/3/2015 NOA1 (hard copy)

3/10/2015 RFE (email) /// 3/16/2015 RFE (hard copy) with A# NOA1 → RFE - 41 days

3/19/2015 RFE mailed USPS Priority to CSC /// 3/23/2015 RFE response received by CSC

5/18/2015 NOA2 (email) RFE→ NOA2 - 69 days / NOA1 → NOA2 - 110 days I-129F sent → NOA2 (CSC phase) - 117 days

5/22/2015 NOA2 (hard copy)

6/1/2015 NVC: case received NOA2 → NVC received - 14 days

6/4/2015 NVC: assigned case # & invoice ID

6/8/2015 NVC: sent to Embassy NVC received → NVC left - 7 days

6/10/2015 Status 'Ready' on CEAC site, letter from NVC mailed to petitioner /// 6/13/2015 NVC letter with case # (hard copy) received

6/16/2015 Embassy: case received NOA2 → Embassy received (NVC phase) - 29 days

6/17/2015 Status 'Administrative processing' on CEAC site, email from Embassy with interview instructions

6/24/2015 Interview scheduled, packets 3 & 4 received (email) /// 6/25/2015 Packet 3 sent to Embassy

7/2/2015 Medical

7/6/2015 Interview NOA1 → interview - 159 days Embassy received → interview (Embassy phase) - 20 days 7/28/2015 Visa issued /// 7/29/2015 email recieved/ visa in hand I-129F sent → visa in hand - 189 days (~6 months) TOTAL TIME

8/22/2015 POE LA

9/10/2015 Wedding

I-485(AOS)/ I-131(AP)/ I-765(EAD)

9/10/2015 Wedding /// 10/6/2015 Marriage Certificate (certified copy) received

11/3/2015 AOS/ AP/ EAD package mailed (USPS Priority to Chicago lockbox) /// 11/5/2015 received by USCIS

11/6/2015 NOA1 (x3) date /// 11/9/2015 NOA1 (x3) (text/email) AOS/AP/EAD sent → NOA1 - 3 days

11/13/2015 NOA1 (x3) (hard copy)

11/20/2015 Biometrics appointment invitation received (hard copy)

11/30/2015 Biometrics appointment

1/26/2016 NOA2 (EAD/AP) date /// 11/9/2015 NOA1 (x3) (text/email) AOS/AP/EAD sent → NOA1 - 3 days

1/29/2016 NOA2 (EAD) (hard copy)

2/3/2016 EAD/AP card received

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Let me tell you something

there are few here that I am in touch with that are awaiting the decision after submitting RFE about our websites not being IMB. We did everything as others, and yet I have been waiting for almost 2 months, other two couples coming on to one month.

It is nice that some mention 'met online' and don't get RFE, others do, and get approved after it withing a week. But it doesn't happen always. As you see, there is a chance that your approval will be delayed by months because of that.

Do you want to risk it?

If I were to do it all over again, I would never mention 'online' dirty word. This is absolutely unnecessary information. It is apparent that to USCIS it is very difficult to see apart the matchmaking mail bride order site and simple community style free dating site, and you can do everything correct and try to prove all you want, and your case can disappear in the depths of USCIS for fecking 2 months...

Can you tell how pissed off I am at this point?

So, dude, up to you. Don't be a fool

Wow! That sounds like a huge pain in the ###. Sorry for what you're having to go through.

Even if I mention the dating site I used and provided proof that it isn't an IMB along with my application, that still wouldn't guarantee avoiding an RFE. Sounds like the best course of action is not even mentioning that you met online and just stick with how you met in person in the past two years, since that's all they're requiring and asking for.

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ROC:

7/2/18 - ROC packet (I-751) sent

7/5/18 - USCIS CSC received

7/13/18 - NOA (I-797) notice date

7/17/18 - $680 check cashed

7/20/18 - NOA (I-797) received

3/11/19 - Biometrics reused

6/4/19 - Case transferred to Potomac Service Center  

10/9/19 - New Card Is Being Produced / Approved

10/11/19 - Card Was Mailed To Me

10/12/19 - Approval Notice received

10/17/19 - 10-yr Green Card received

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