'Anti-Gay Day' Students Made 'Lynch List,' Hung Noose

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That is not what that comment was about. I actually agree with the comment.

Your sexual preference has nothing to do with a family place. You are not going to a family place to show whether or not you are gay or heterosexual, you are going to have fun either by yourself or with your family.

If I'm at Disney World with my family, I wouldn't want to see a homosexual couple kissing and smooching no more than I would want to see a heterosexual couple. That stuff is for the house or the club, not for a family oriented environment.

just basic common sense stuff

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Okay, so I agree with you, actually, on the fact that public displays of affection like kissing and smooching are gross--my wife and I actually don't kiss in public and did not actually kiss when we were married because nope, nope, not in public. We high fived. I have it on video.

That being said, heterosexual couples give each other oral pleasures on Disney rides (and then are escorted out of the park since Disney has night vision cameras on all rides that go through the dark) or even full on intercourse. I've known people who worked at the parks and they tell HORROR stories. Don't act like it's all innocent family fun times outside of Gay Days. People celebrate their honeymoons and anniversaries at Disney.

Gay Days are not simply about picking up partners or public displays of affection. I will repeat myself here, since apparently NO ONE read anything I said above about Gay Days.

Gay families are the subject of subtle discrimination. It can be as simple as the lady at Ikea who spent a solid ten minutes circling my wife and I with her cart and staring while we discussed the relative merits of various Ikea duvets. It can be as simple as someone cat calling us for holding hands on the street because obviously lesbians are only lesbians for male entertainment. In the case of my coworker who was raised by her lesbian moms, it was things like people blaming her bad haircut on her having two moms or jabbing at her about where her dad was. These things suck and happen to our families every single day.

That's 365 and a quarter days each year that we live in a world where holding hands is a sexual act for us, but a romantic one for heterosexuals. That's 52 weeks where our families treat us like the local scandal. "Oh that's my sister and her wife. They're LESBIANS!" That's 12 months where just daring to go to Ikea and look at bedding is enough to get you treated like a zoo animal.

And you know what? It's EXHAUSTING. It SUCKS. It HURTS. It's HARD.

So what's so wrong about wanting to go to the most magical place on earth and enjoy the magic of being in a world, for just a few days, where we're surrounded by our own people? People who understand the pain and exhaustion. People who know that once we leave the gates, we go back out there and face the real world.

There are ALWAYS a few bad apples, in every crowd. There will be a few homosexuals at Gay Days who use it to cruise. But there are always heterosexuals doing the same thing at Disney. The majority are just people who want to see that we're in a safe space.

Why is it suddenly a threat to heterosexuals when we just want to arrange a vacation from the real world?

See, that's some crazy #######. I don't want to see this from any couple regardless of sexual preference.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I really love the game of 'QUICK! HETEROSEXUALS! STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS AND IGNORE THE GAY PERSON TELLING YOU STUFF!' that's going on here. I am much impressed. *slowclap*

See, that's some crazy #######. I don't want to see this from any couple regardless of sexual preference.

Me neither, but gay days have nothing to do with sex and everything to do with community. Found family, meaning family that is found through community, not blood family, is a very very important thing for q u e e r people because a lot of us have been kicked out of our blood families and we've had to learn, the hard way, that the blood of the covenant is thicker than the waters of the womb.

[eieio 1,594]

I really love the game of 'QUICK! HETEROSEXUALS! STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS AND IGNORE THE GAY PERSON TELLING YOU STUFF!' that's going on here. I am much impressed. *slowclap*

What are you talking about?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I really love the game of 'QUICK! HETEROSEXUALS! STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS AND IGNORE THE GAY PERSON TELLING YOU STUFF!' that's going on here. I am much impressed. *slowclap*

Me neither, but gay days have nothing to do with sex and everything to do with community. Found family, meaning family that is found through community, not blood family, is a very very important thing for q u e e r people because a lot of us have been kicked out of our blood families and we've had to learn, the hard way, that the blood of the covenant is thicker than the waters of the womb.

I'm just saying, there shouldn't have to be a gay day at Disney. This is a family place and it is for all people. You and your wife should be able to go no matter what the day is.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I'm just saying, there shouldn't have to be a gay day at Disney. This is a family place and it is for all people. You and your wife should be able to go no matter what the day is.

There shouldn't have to be a gay day anywhere. Ever. I shouldn't have to get treated like a zoo animal for comparing duvets in a home furnishing store, but I DO. That's just reality.

We CAN go to Disney any day and in fact, we have a trip planned in 2016 and it won't be on gay days. That being said, if we have children and we go to Disney with our children, we likely will go on gay days for the simple reason that having an escape from the real world is nice. It will be nice for our children to go see other families like ours. There aren't a lot of places you can go and hang out with other gay families and do family type things. That's something great about gay days. It gives kids in gay families a day when they can look around and see other families like theirs and feel like they belong.

Shouldn't every child be able to feel like they belong, like their family aren't freaks? I grew up one of the few children of a home that had gone through divorce in my friends group. No one ever said anything about that, but it was a huge relief, as sad as it was, when a friend in fifth grade had her parents split up. There was someone else who understood what it was to have a family like mine. I was sad for her, but it was a relief to have someone else who got it, to hang out with someone else who knew what it was like to have two homes.

Gay days give kids that relief.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Okay, so I agree with you, actually, on the fact that public displays of affection like kissing and smooching are gross--my wife and I actually don't kiss in public and did not actually kiss when we were married because nope, nope, not in public. We high fived. I have it on video.

That being said, heterosexual couples give each other oral pleasures on Disney rides (and then are escorted out of the park since Disney has night vision cameras on all rides that go through the dark) or even full on intercourse. I've known people who worked at the parks and they tell HORROR stories. Don't act like it's all innocent family fun times outside of Gay Days. People celebrate their honeymoons and anniversaries at Disney.

Gay Days are not simply about picking up partners or public displays of affection. I will repeat myself here, since apparently NO ONE read anything I said above about Gay Days.

Gay families are the subject of subtle discrimination. It can be as simple as the lady at Ikea who spent a solid ten minutes circling my wife and I with her cart and staring while we discussed the relative merits of various Ikea duvets. It can be as simple as someone cat calling us for holding hands on the street because obviously lesbians are only lesbians for male entertainment. In the case of my coworker who was raised by her lesbian moms, it was things like people blaming her bad haircut on her having two moms or jabbing at her about where her dad was. These things suck and happen to our families every single day.

That's 365 and a quarter days each year that we live in a world where holding hands is a sexual act for us, but a romantic one for heterosexuals. That's 52 weeks where our families treat us like the local scandal. "Oh that's my sister and her wife. They're LESBIANS!" That's 12 months where just daring to go to Ikea and look at bedding is enough to get you treated like a zoo animal.

And you know what? It's EXHAUSTING. It SUCKS. It HURTS. It's HARD.

So what's so wrong about wanting to go to the most magical place on earth and enjoy the magic of being in a world, for just a few days, where we're surrounded by our own people? People who understand the pain and exhaustion. People who know that once we leave the gates, we go back out there and face the real world.

There are ALWAYS a few bad apples, in every crowd. There will be a few homosexuals at Gay Days who use it to cruise. But there are always heterosexuals doing the same thing at Disney. The majority are just people who want to see that we're in a safe space.

Why is it suddenly a threat to heterosexuals when we just want to arrange a vacation from the real world?

Totally agree.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Because those were washed away by salvation in Christ. Sins are forgiven if asked. The old law was void with a living saviour.

This explains it fairly well: https://carm.org/christians-bound-by-law

I read the writing from this link.. To be honest it made no sense to me - I can apply their reasoning to the quotes but I would never have followed that reasoning with just the quotes and could have derived other meaning from those same quotes.

If I am reading the reasoning right: Jews must follow the old word however Christians do not - for the reason that the original word and rules exist to understand sin and Christians having understood sin are no longer bound by these original words.

These are the closing words that sum it up in a "more easily digestible" form:

It is therefore fitting for the wise and sensible servant of the Lord to lawfully wield the holy commandments of God while faithfully laboring in the field that is white for the harvest.

I do not see how anyone can read this and get any type of guidance.

Edited April 27, 2015 by OnMyWayID

[JohnR! 5,495]

When it comes to superstitious religious matters you can't apply reason, otherwise the entire argument falls through. Reason is like kryptonite to religion.

I read the writing from this link.. To be honest it made no sense to me - I can apply their reasoning to the quotes but I would never have followed that reasoning with just the quotes and could have derived other meaning from those same quotes.

If I am reading the reasoning right: Jews must follow the old word however Christians do not - for the reason that the original word and rules exist to understand sin and Christians having understood sin are no longer bound by these original words.

These are the closing words that sum it up in a "more easily digestible" form:

It is therefore fitting for the wise and sensible servant of the Lord to lawfully wield the holy commandments of God while faithfully laboring in the field that is white for the harvest.

I do not see how anyone can read this and get any type of guidance.