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(Reuters) - A Milwaukee driver was fatally shot, along with a teenager at the scene, after he hit a toddler who had run into the street, police said on Monday.

The 41-year-old driver struck a 2-year-old on the city's northwest side at about 5 p.m. local time on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

The man was shot and killed when he got out of his van to check on the child, who died at the scene, according to authorities. Police said they believe the alleged shooter was provoked by the toddler being struck.

A 15-year-old boy, who was the toddler's brother, was also shot at the scene during the incident. It is unclear whether the teenager, who later died, was a passenger in the van or a bystander, according to police.

"These are the type of things that make neighborhoods very unstable," Alderman Joe Davis told a press conference on Sunday, according to video from ABC News affiliate WISN.

Police said no arrests have been made yet in the incident.

(Reporting by Brendan O'Brien in Milwaukee)

http://news.yahoo.com/two-fatally-shot-van-strikes-toddler-milwaukee-122426320.html

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Where was the father of the 2 year old . Who lets a 2 year old play in the streets. The person watching the child needs to be brought up on abuse charges .

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If only the toddler were carrying...

(Reuters) - A Milwaukee driver was fatally shot, along with a teenager at the scene, after he hit a toddler who had run into the street, police said on Monday.

The 41-year-old driver struck a 2-year-old on the city's northwest side at about 5 p.m. local time on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

The man was shot and killed when he got out of his van to check on the child, who died at the scene, according to authorities. Police said they believe the alleged shooter was provoked by the toddler being struck.

A 15-year-old boy, who was the toddler's brother, was also shot at the scene during the incident. It is unclear whether the teenager, who later died, was a passenger in the van or a bystander, according to police.

"These are the type of things that make neighborhoods very unstable," Alderman Joe Davis told a press conference on Sunday, according to video from ABC News affiliate WISN.

Police said no arrests have been made yet in the incident.

(Reporting by Brendan O'Brien in Milwaukee)

http://news.yahoo.com/two-fatally-shot-van-strikes-toddler-milwaukee-122426320.html

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If only the toddler were carrying...

If only the parent was caring .

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Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

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Yep, responsible gun user.

You sound like some California West Coast Fruit or Nut, or a Northern Yankee talking like that.

I thought you were a Southern Gal.............

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If only the toddler were carrying...

He probably was. He just didn't pull it out of his diaper in time.

You sound like some California West Coast Fruit or Nut, or a Northern Yankee talking like that.

I thought you were a Southern Gal.............

What does being a Southern Girl have to do with this. I don't believe everyone should carry. This is a prime example.

Where was the father of the 2 year old . Who lets a 2 year old play in the streets. The person watching the child needs to be brought up on abuse charges .

If the kid had his own gun, no one would need to watch him. Isn't this the American way? Letting guns raise our children.

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If only the parent was caring .

Obviously the OP is wafer thin on the specifics but it is reasonable to place a toddler in the care of a 15 year old sibling.

Conversely, and again the OP is wafer thin, but it is clear that someone in possession of a gun lost control and shot the driver who stopped and didn't flee the presumably grisly accident scene, and also gunned down the 15 year old brother in a fit of rage, deadly rage made possible by a previously 'safe' gun.

My money is on one of the 'uncaring' parents, and five gets you ten the gun was purchased for family 'safety,' being the shooter. This is likely a very good example of why and how guns do not make a household safer.

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Where was the father of the 2 year old . Who lets a 2 year old play in the streets. The person watching the child needs to be brought up on abuse charges .

The Father of the 2 year old may have been the one pulling the trigger for all we know. How does that take away the fact that two more lives were needlessly lost by senseless gun violence??

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Obviously the OP is wafer thin on the specifics but it is reasonable to place a toddler in the care of a 15 year old sibling.

Conversely, and again the OP is wafer thin, but it is clear that someone in possession of a gun lost control and shot the driver who stopped and didn't flee the presumably grisly accident scene, and also gunned down the 15 year old brother in a fit of rage, deadly rage made possible by a previously 'safe' gun.

My money is on one of the 'uncaring' parents, and five gets you ten the gun was purchased for family 'safety,' being the shooter. This is likely a very good example of why and how guns do not make a household safer.

So put together and thought through. Well done.

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It doesn't, but by diverting the attention to anything other than the gun provides for predictable deflection...

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The Father of the 2 year old may have been the one pulling the trigger for all we know. How does that take away the fact that two more lives were needlessly lost by senseless gun violence??

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(Reuters) - he hit a toddler who had run into the street

Two-year-olds can often run fast. No judgment from here on whether the parents or guardians were responsible or not -- they might have merely taken their eyes off the child for mere seconds.

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