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av8or1 Rising Star

av8or1   246

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Hi-

I will soon be filing a CRBA at the US Embassy in Moscow. I have completed the CRBA form, but have a question. Specifically, with respect to item 24, where you are to enter your "Precise Periods of Time in United States", what do I as the US Citizen enter since I have lived here all of my life since birth? I have traveled abroad yes, many times, but never lived anywhere else. All of that travel was vacation and some of it occurred when I had my old passport. So even if I wanted to I cannot retrieve the dates of that travel. My initial thought was to just enter "N/A" for me, but I'm not sure and the instructions don't specifically address that and a Google search didn't turn up anything.

Thanks!

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pdking5000 Explorer

pdking5000   56

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I would just fill it out as precisely as possible ;)

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/mexico/1123894/ACS/DS2029sample.pdf

I-129F: Sent 9/5/2014
I-129F: Arrived at Lewisville 9/8/2014
I-129F: NOA1 Text message/mail 9/11/2014
I-129F: Alien Registration Number Changed 9/16/2014
I-129F: Request to correct on document or notice assigned to an officer for response 10/25/2014
I-129F: Name Change request made 10/31/2014
I-129F: NOA 2 Text message/mail 4/6/2015

I-129F: NOA 2 Hardcopy 4/9/2015

I-129F: Sent to NVC 4/13/2015

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av8or1   246

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What do you mean by "lived here". The US or Russia?

I meant that I have never lived anywhere but the USA, only traveled to other places (countries) for vacation.

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9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

pdking5000 Explorer

pdking5000   56

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Then write "birth-present"

The example in my post is directly from the state department website. Birth isn't listed, just the date of birth (on the part where precise time in the United States is asked) I wouldn't stress out about this. only people that have lived outside the US for substantially large amounts of time would need to worry about this.

I-129F: Sent 9/5/2014
I-129F: Arrived at Lewisville 9/8/2014
I-129F: NOA1 Text message/mail 9/11/2014
I-129F: Alien Registration Number Changed 9/16/2014
I-129F: Request to correct on document or notice assigned to an officer for response 10/25/2014
I-129F: Name Change request made 10/31/2014
I-129F: NOA 2 Text message/mail 4/6/2015

I-129F: NOA 2 Hardcopy 4/9/2015

I-129F: Sent to NVC 4/13/2015

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av8or1   246

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Then write "birth-present"

Cool, thanks! And it's ok to list it that way even though I traveled out of the country for vacation?

The example in my post is directly from the state department website. Birth isn't listed, just the date of birth (on the part where precise time in the United States is asked) I wouldn't stress out about this. only people that have lived outside the US for substantially large amounts of time would need to worry about this.

Worry about what? The entire item #24?

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

pdking5000 Explorer

pdking5000   56

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Cool, thanks! And it's ok to list it that way even though I traveled out of the country for vacation?

Worry about what? The entire item #24?

exact dates with respect to the times you were out of the country. Also, in the example, the person listed his birth date for the 1st time he was in the US on question 24. They didn't write birth. So I would take that into consideration.

I-129F: Sent 9/5/2014
I-129F: Arrived at Lewisville 9/8/2014
I-129F: NOA1 Text message/mail 9/11/2014
I-129F: Alien Registration Number Changed 9/16/2014
I-129F: Request to correct on document or notice assigned to an officer for response 10/25/2014
I-129F: Name Change request made 10/31/2014
I-129F: NOA 2 Text message/mail 4/6/2015

I-129F: NOA 2 Hardcopy 4/9/2015

I-129F: Sent to NVC 4/13/2015

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av8or1   246

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exact dates with respect to the times you were out of the country. Also, in the example, the person listed his birth date for the 1st time he was in the US on question 24. They didn't write birth. So I would take that into consideration.

Yeah I'll enter my actual birthday instead of "birth", ok no problem. But the guy in this example spent a significant amount of time outside the USA. I've never done that, so I suspect it isn't a huge deal.

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

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iamwhatiam80   92

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Hi-

I will soon be filing a CRBA at the US Embassy in Moscow. I have completed the CRBA form, but have a question. Specifically, with respect to item 24, where you are to enter your "Precise Periods of Time in United States", what do I as the US Citizen enter since I have lived here all of my life since birth? I have traveled abroad yes, many times, but never lived anywhere else. All of that travel was vacation and some of it occurred when I had my old passport. So even if I wanted to I cannot retrieve the dates of that travel. My initial thought was to just enter "N/A" for me, but I'm not sure and the instructions don't specifically address that and a Google search didn't turn up anything.

Thanks!

Well, if you have lived all your life in US ever since you were born at only one address, then you just put that address in the form. In your case only one single address.

If you have taken long breaks by living outside the US, then you enter the period of time you were in US.

av8or1 Rising Star

av8or1   246

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Well, if you have lived all your life in US ever since you were born at only one address, then you just put that address in the form. In your case only one single address.

If you have taken long breaks by living outside the US, then you enter the period of time you were in US.

Yes, I have lived here (the USA) all of my life, but - at least in my case - definitely NOT at the same address since birth. I went off to college, graduated, changed career once (and back again), etc. I don't have a complete and thorough history of where I have lived since finishing undergrad, but of course it was - again - all within the contiguous 48. So would I need to somehow account (ahem guess) at all of those cities? Gheez I hope not.

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

iamwhatiam80 Proficient

iamwhatiam80   92

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Yes, I have lived here (the USA) all of my life, but - at least in my case - definitely NOT at the same address since birth. I went off to college, graduated, changed career once (and back again), etc. I don't have a complete and thorough history of where I have lived since finishing undergrad, but of course it was - again - all within the contiguous 48. So would I need to somehow account (ahem guess) at all of those cities? Gheez I hope not.

If you have lived significant amount of your time (i.e you actually moved and made that city or state your domicile) at different addresses from your DOB until now, then I am afraid you have to mention them with the dates to the best of your abilities.

The whole idea of that question is to extract that information.

av8or1 Rising Star

av8or1   246

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Ok hmmmmmmmm....well I would have thought that the entire point behind the item was to establish when you were within the US, not exactly where within the US. But I'll put my history cap on and do my best with it. Getting it down to the day will be nearly impossible, but I'll try. Thanks

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

av8or1 Rising Star

av8or1   246

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Ok, I haven't even gotten out of the 80s and I've finished the first section, so I'd need to go to additional sheets of paper. This is nuts. I've sent an email to the embassy in Moscow and will delay fully completing the form until I hear back from them. Will post with what I learn, if anything.

Thanks again to all who replied.

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

av8or1 Rising Star

av8or1   246

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Ok I heard back from the embassy in Moscow this morning. This is what they said in regard to item 24 and whether or not you really need to fill in ALL of the cities in which you've lived in the USA:

"Thank you very much for your correspondence. The purpose of the DS-2029 form is to determine where you have lived in the US for at least 5 aggregate years before your child is born for you to be able to transmit your citizenship. In this light, please fill out the form to the best of your knowledge."

So for me, I'm just gonna hit the highlights, since I've never lived anywhere outside the USA. Only visited. I will use my actual birthdate as the beginning date, hit the major cities and leave it at that.

9/8/14 - I129F petition sent to the USCIS lockbox via USPS
9/11/14 - Petition received @ USCIS lockbox
9/11/14 - NOA1 Email and text message received
9/15/14 - NOA1 Official notice date
9/18/14 - NOA1 hard copy received
12/9/14 - "Updated" likely because of website repairs, like many of us received
4/20/15 - NOA2 text and email (221 days)

4/29/15 - Sent to the NVC (9 days)

5/8/15 - Arrived at the NVC (9 days)

5/13/15 - Left the NVC (5 days)

5/15/15 - Electronic version arrived at the embassy (2 days)

5/20/15 - Paper copy arrived at the embassy (7 days)

6/4/15 - Status changed to AP (which meant that we could schedule the interview)

6/16/15 - Medical

6/17/15 - K1 APPROVED!!!!

6/30/15 - Passport and sealed envelope delivered via courier

 
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