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It's not so much about patterns as math. The commonly bandied about one is that 1% of visa seekers for family based visas are on VJ and share their stats. Let's assume that's true, though my belief is that it is very, very low. Now, there are about 12 of us waiting for an interview since March 23rd. That's about 1200 people, minimum, and the number climbs every day. It's been three weeks, so we'll say that 400 people will be added each week that we wait for interview scheduling. This means that the minimum number of people waiting for June interviews to become available as of the first week of May will be 2000.

Montreal doesn't have interviews for immigrant visas on every single day. They're closed weekends. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 22 days that are POSSIBLE for interviews. In May, for example, they'll be closed for Memorial day and the 2-4. June, they'll be closed for St-Jean-Baptiste day. July they'll be closed for Canada Day. May is full, so that takes us down to a maximum of 21 days per month for interviews in June and fortunately Independence Day is on a Saturday and July has 31 days, taking us to a max of 22 days for it. Let's assume there are only four additional days that are options each month where they do NOT have interview dates available to us and do professional development or only interviews for other visa types. (I think this is low, given how bureaucracy works, but we'll go with it as an arbitrary choice--one day per week that they do not schedule for) That puts us at 17 days available for June and 18 days for July.

They'll schedule for June, first. This means that, counting ONLY family-based immigration interviews, they will have to clear a MINIMUM of 117-118 petitions per day they have available in order to just clear the current backlog. I don't know about you, but I don't feel that lucky, given that it's not just family-based immigration interviews that happen. They've created a backlog and Canadians who get approved over the next little while will feel that.

And that is some impressive math!:) But I will tell you this - I work with math all day long. I used to sit there and calculate probabilities related to my visa application, and few of my detailed calculations came true. So now, I have given up on this. Math does not work for the NVC process, it just doesn't. Explain to me how someone got a 22 day approval via EP? None of this makes sense, and in order not to go insane, I stopped calculating anything. It will happen when it happens, but I choose to think it will happen sooner than we think. And if it doesn't, I am still going to be with my husband at some point.

I understand the frustration. My husband has had his health challenges too, and they continue. I have spent days crying. NONE of this helps. I am focusing on getting ready to leave, whenever that may be. And I am leaving math for work.

Hang in there and I wish you all the best!

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I'm ready to go. My suitcases are bought and packed and have been for months. My cat is crate-trained. My rats are thoroughly spoilt and my flatmates are prepared for their end of life care. Heck, I've even bought groupons for our dates for when I arrive down there. I'm just out of stuff to do while I wait.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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I'm ready to go. My suitcases are bought and packed and have been for months. My cat is crate-trained. My rats are thoroughly spoilt and my flatmates are prepared for their end of life care. Heck, I've even bought groupons for our dates for when I arrive down there. I'm just out of stuff to do while I wait.

AND you're hilarious;) And we, or I at least, will be here to hear you rant when you need to!!

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Sorry, I think that sounded way harsher than I meant for it too. I'm not irritated with you. I'm just irritated with this stupid process and everything involved. It's intensely broken and there's very little I hate more than broken organizational processes.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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Sorry, I think that sounded way harsher than I meant for it too. I'm not irritated with you. I'm just irritated with this stupid process and everything involved. It's intensely broken and there's very little I hate more than broken organizational processes.

No apologies needed. I will drink to that!

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Holy cow!!!! That is a pretty impressive and exceptional calculation! I believe you will definitely get a june interview....you missed the previous scheduling by just 1 buisness day. I honesty feel you all who waited for CC for long, deserve to get things moving as qucikly as possible. By the way, I noticed we are both heading to thesame city (Austin); are you ready for the summer? LOL it feels like a chimney in summer! Sending hugs and good thoughts to everyone here!

It's not so much about patterns as math. The commonly bandied about one is that 1% of visa seekers for family based visas are on VJ and share their stats. Let's assume that's true, though my belief is that it is very, very low. Now, there are about 12 of us waiting for an interview since March 23rd. That's about 1200 people, minimum, and the number climbs every day. It's been three weeks, so we'll say that 400 people will be added each week that we wait for interview scheduling. This means that the minimum number of people waiting for June interviews to become available as of the first week of May will be 2000.

Montreal doesn't have interviews for immigrant visas on every single day. They're closed weekends. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 22 days that are POSSIBLE for interviews. In May, for example, they'll be closed for Memorial day and the 2-4. June, they'll be closed for St-Jean-Baptiste day. July they'll be closed for Canada Day. May is full, so that takes us down to a maximum of 21 days per month for interviews in June and fortunately Independence Day is on a Saturday and July has 31 days, taking us to a max of 22 days for it. Let's assume there are only four additional days that are options each month where they do NOT have interview dates available to us and do professional development or only interviews for other visa types. (I think this is low, given how bureaucracy works, but we'll go with it as an arbitrary choice--one day per week that they do not schedule for) That puts us at 17 days available for June and 18 days for July.

They'll schedule for June, first. This means that, counting ONLY family-based immigration interviews, they will have to clear a MINIMUM of 117-118 petitions per day they have available in order to just clear the current backlog. I don't know about you, but I don't feel that lucky, given that it's not just family-based immigration interviews that happen. They've created a backlog and Canadians who get approved over the next little while will feel that.

USCIS (CR-1)

August 12th, 2014: I-130 Mailed

August 13th, 2014: I-130 was received by AZ lockbox and transferred to Nebraska SC

August 15th, 2014: NOA1 by E-mail

August 22nd, 2014: Received NOA1 by Mail

February 2nd, 2015: USCIS Approved 1-130 petition (175 days)

February 10th, 2015: Case Status on USCIS website (We sent your case to the Department of State for visa Processing)

February 13th, 2015: Received NOA2 by Mail

NVC (CR-1)

February 17th, 2015: Case Received at NVC

February 27th, 2015: Case & Invoice ID numbers assigned

February 27th, 2015: Submitted DS-261

March 3rd, 2015: AOS bill paid

March 4th, 2015: NVC welcome letter received by postal mail.

March 6th, 2015: Sent both AOS & IV packages via fedex (didn't opt for EP)

March 9th, 2015: packages arrived at NVC office (fedex tracking showed delivered)

March 14th, 2015: received official letter from NVC stating receipt of packages and March 9th, 2015 as the scan date

March 18th, 2015: AOS fee rejected (due to glitch during payment and possibly human error in imputing the bank details )

March 18th, 2015: RE-PAID AOS fee

March 19th, 2015: AOS fee accepted (changed from "in process" to "paid)

March 24th, 2015: DS 261 was reviewed

March 25th, 2015: IV fee was invoiced

March 25th, 2015: IV fee paid - "in process"

March 27th, 2015: IV Payment changed to "paid"

March 27th, 2015: DS 260 completed

March 30th, 2015: Case complete .....21 days from scan date

April 6th,2015: Official case complete email received.

April 22nd,2015: Received interview letter (p4)

April 22nd,2015: Booked medical at medisys for may 6th,2015

May 6th, 2015: Completed Medical

May 11th, 2015: Collected medical result.

May 15th, 2015: Interview appointment - Approved :dancing::dance::dancing: "As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord"

May 21st, 2015: Visa received "It is not of him that willeth nor of him that runneth but of God that showeth mercy"

May 31th, 2015: Port of Entry at Pearsons airport Toronto

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Holy cow!!!! That is a pretty impressive and exceptional calculation! I believe you will definitely get a june interview....you missed the previous scheduling by just 1 buisness day. I honesty feel you all who waited for CC for long, deserve to get things moving as qucikly as possible. By the way, I noticed we are both heading to thesame city (Austin); are you ready for the summer? LOL it feels like a chimney in summer! Sending hugs and good thoughts to everyone here!

I am SO not ready for the summer. I went down for late June/early July last summer and we went on a road trip to Georgia. Austin was oppressively hot. I couldn't breathe, it was so hot. And then we drove for two days and for the first day, it literally rained all day, in sheets. We left early in the morning and barely made it to New Orleans after a full day of driving--it was late by the time we got there. You couldn't see ten feet in front of the car. We drove up to Georgia from New Orleans and Georgia wasn't so bad, but when we got back to Austin, hooo boy I thought I was dying and I hid in the air conditioning.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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Haha :rofl: spot on! I also visited last summer and immediately i got out of the airport, I was like "honey, aren't you sure this is the HELL that the bible was referring to?" The most annoying thing is that the weather doesn't even cool down at night! But guess what? I am looking forward to the winter down there cos it feels like fall; I know that I wouldn't have to bother about shoveling my drive way or putting on 4 layers of clothing :content:

I am SO not ready for the summer. I went down for late June/early July last summer and we went on a road trip to Georgia. Austin was oppressively hot. I couldn't breathe, it was so hot. And then we drove for two days and for the first day, it literally rained all day, in sheets. We left early in the morning and barely made it to New Orleans after a full day of driving--it was late by the time we got there. You couldn't see ten feet in front of the car. We drove up to Georgia from New Orleans and Georgia wasn't so bad, but when we got back to Austin, hooo boy I thought I was dying and I hid in the air conditioning.

USCIS (CR-1)

August 12th, 2014: I-130 Mailed

August 13th, 2014: I-130 was received by AZ lockbox and transferred to Nebraska SC

August 15th, 2014: NOA1 by E-mail

August 22nd, 2014: Received NOA1 by Mail

February 2nd, 2015: USCIS Approved 1-130 petition (175 days)

February 10th, 2015: Case Status on USCIS website (We sent your case to the Department of State for visa Processing)

February 13th, 2015: Received NOA2 by Mail

NVC (CR-1)

February 17th, 2015: Case Received at NVC

February 27th, 2015: Case & Invoice ID numbers assigned

February 27th, 2015: Submitted DS-261

March 3rd, 2015: AOS bill paid

March 4th, 2015: NVC welcome letter received by postal mail.

March 6th, 2015: Sent both AOS & IV packages via fedex (didn't opt for EP)

March 9th, 2015: packages arrived at NVC office (fedex tracking showed delivered)

March 14th, 2015: received official letter from NVC stating receipt of packages and March 9th, 2015 as the scan date

March 18th, 2015: AOS fee rejected (due to glitch during payment and possibly human error in imputing the bank details )

March 18th, 2015: RE-PAID AOS fee

March 19th, 2015: AOS fee accepted (changed from "in process" to "paid)

March 24th, 2015: DS 261 was reviewed

March 25th, 2015: IV fee was invoiced

March 25th, 2015: IV fee paid - "in process"

March 27th, 2015: IV Payment changed to "paid"

March 27th, 2015: DS 260 completed

March 30th, 2015: Case complete .....21 days from scan date

April 6th,2015: Official case complete email received.

April 22nd,2015: Received interview letter (p4)

April 22nd,2015: Booked medical at medisys for may 6th,2015

May 6th, 2015: Completed Medical

May 11th, 2015: Collected medical result.

May 15th, 2015: Interview appointment - Approved :dancing::dance::dancing: "As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord"

May 21st, 2015: Visa received "It is not of him that willeth nor of him that runneth but of God that showeth mercy"

May 31th, 2015: Port of Entry at Pearsons airport Toronto

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I cannot wait for a winter without snow. I was a Chinook baby, born in Alberta--when my mother went into labour, there was so much snow. By the time I was born, the snow had all melted and it was 20 degrees celsius out, in February. My mum always said that was why I hated the snow so much.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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It's not so much about patterns as math. The commonly bandied about one is that 1% of visa seekers for family based visas are on VJ and share their stats. Let's assume that's true, though my belief is that it is very, very low. Now, there are about 12 of us waiting for an interview since March 23rd. That's about 1200 people, minimum, and the number climbs every day. It's been three weeks, so we'll say that 400 people will be added each week that we wait for interview scheduling. This means that the minimum number of people waiting for June interviews to become available as of the first week of May will be 2000.

Montreal doesn't have interviews for immigrant visas on every single day. They're closed weekends. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 22 days that are POSSIBLE for interviews. In May, for example, they'll be closed for Memorial day and the 2-4. June, they'll be closed for St-Jean-Baptiste day. July they'll be closed for Canada Day. May is full, so that takes us down to a maximum of 21 days per month for interviews in June and fortunately Independence Day is on a Saturday and July has 31 days, taking us to a max of 22 days for it. Let's assume there are only four additional days that are options each month where they do NOT have interview dates available to us and do professional development or only interviews for other visa types. (I think this is low, given how bureaucracy works, but we'll go with it as an arbitrary choice--one day per week that they do not schedule for) That puts us at 17 days available for June and 18 days for July.

They'll schedule for June, first. This means that, counting ONLY family-based immigration interviews, they will have to clear a MINIMUM of 117-118 petitions per day they have available in order to just clear the current backlog. I don't know about you, but I don't feel that lucky, given that it's not just family-based immigration interviews that happen. They've created a backlog and Canadians who get approved over the next little while will feel that.

I have to say I agree with the others. The NVC does nothing in a set, calculated way so I don't think you can use any sort of calculation to predict their outcome! That being said, I understand wanting to set out the worst case scenario. I did with my Case Complete when I saw what was happening and thought it would probably be early May before I got it (if I didn't get a checklist that is) so I made a commitment to my job to finish out the semester (I'm a high school teacher...math actually haha), agreed to be in a wedding in the states that will take up 2 weekends in June and booked a trip to the Dominican with my hubby for the end of June. Then all of a sudden I got my case complete and was looking at a possible June interview which I never thought would happen. I kind of shot myself in the foot I think...but then again according to your calculations...maybe not! Point is we don't know what it will be. I think we can all agree that May is out but I have a REALLY good feeling that you will see a June interview...I'm even willing to bet early to mid-June for you!! Don't give up hope! And don't do what I did...make yourself practically unavailable for a whole month because your p'd off at the immigration process and just want something to look forward to haha! Sending all sorts of good thoughts your way! I know you need to get there soon so I truly am hoping for you!! And please continue to rant away in the mean time! We are hear to listen and feel your frustrations!!

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Haha :rofl: spot on! I also visited last summer and immediately i got out of the airport, I was like "honey, aren't you sure this is the HELL that the bible was referring to?" The most annoying thing is that the weather doesn't even cool down at night! But guess what? I am looking forward to the winter down there cos it feels like fall; I know that I wouldn't have to bother about shoveling my drive way or putting on 4 layers of clothing :content:

I cannot wait for a winter without snow. I was a Chinook baby, born in Alberta--when my mother went into labour, there was so much snow. By the time I was born, the snow had all melted and it was 20 degrees celsius out, in February. My mum always said that was why I hated the snow so much.

hahaha oh what a wonderful thing to look forward to!!! No snow!!! I don't know where in Canada you both live but where I am here in Southern Ontario the last 2 winters have been BRUTAL!! I'm looking forward to less snow this coming winter but warm temperatures all year round...ugh what a dream that would be!! I enjoy the heat though. Think of me still shoveling out in nowhere, Ohio come January while you're still tanning yourselves! hahaha :rofl:

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Haha :rofl: spot on! I also visited last summer and immediately i got out of the airport, I was like "honey, aren't you sure this is the HELL that the bible was referring to?" The most annoying thing is that the weather doesn't even cool down at night! But guess what? I am looking forward to the winter down there cos it feels like fall; I know that I wouldn't have to bother about shoveling my drive way or putting on 4 layers of clothing :content:

I cannot wait for a winter without snow. I was a Chinook baby, born in Alberta--when my mother went into labour, there was so much snow. By the time I was born, the snow had all melted and it was 20 degrees celsius out, in February. My mum always said that was why I hated the snow so much.

hahaha oh what a wonderful thing to look forward to!!! No snow!!! I don't know where in Canada you both live but where I am here in Southern Ontario the last 2 winters have been BRUTAL!! I'm looking forward to less snow this coming winter but warm temperatures all year round...ugh what a dream that would be!! I enjoy the heat though. Think of me still shoveling out in nowhere, Ohio come January while you're still tanning yourselves! hahaha :rofl:

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hahaha oh what a wonderful thing to look forward to!!! No snow!!! I don't know where in Canada you both live but where I am here in Southern Ontario the last 2 winters have been BRUTAL!! I'm looking forward to less snow this coming winter but warm temperatures all year round...ugh what a dream that would be!! I enjoy the heat though. Think of me still shoveling out in nowhere, Ohio come January while you're still tanning yourselves! hahaha :rofl:

Born in Alberta, raised in an area of Ontario that gets an average of 11 feet of snow every year, now live in Toronto, where yes, the last two winters have been just horrid. Gotta say, I love warm and hot, but Austin hot is just TOO hot. When you can feel your lungs shrivel up and dry out at your first breath out the door, that's too much! lol

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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Born in Alberta, raised in an area of Ontario that gets an average of 11 feet of snow every year, now live in Toronto, where yes, the last two winters have been just horrid. Gotta say, I love warm and hot, but Austin hot is just TOO hot. When you can feel your lungs shrivel up and dry out at your first breath out the door, that's too much! lol

LOL yeah, LA can be like that too. However, I was raised in Ontario, but have spent past few years in Saskatchewan and let me tell you. I would rather shrivel up in LA than bear any more of those -40C winters with the bitter wind:) The funny thing is, my husband LOVES it here. He is usually the ONLY person outside, in how full winter gear (he's a Californian born and bred, has more snow pants than anyone I've met here), walking around during snow storms. My neighbors think we are nuts. :) Well, that HE is anyways.

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